No. But might well be the biggest propaganda campaign ever.
I don’t think douchebag will make a big career in warmunism.
John Tillman
July 4, 2013 10:13 am
I’m going with the germ theory of disease.
Mike Bromley the Canucklehead
July 4, 2013 10:13 am
The segué into competitive gaming was so…today.
Kaboom
July 4, 2013 10:20 am
It may be a discovery. Not certain about scientific. Certain about not being the biggest.
Robert Jacobs
July 4, 2013 10:21 am
Interesting until the gaming discussion. All in all, a waste of time to watch.
Joe in Biloxi
July 4, 2013 10:23 am
My goodness. Mouthy, isn’t he?
Keitho
Editor
July 4, 2013 10:23 am
Not really. The data is inconclusive, has been severely manipulated and is being used to achieve political ends. I am of course referring to man made carbon dioxide and its role but also the record is very corrupt and doesn’t lend itself to testable predictions in anything like real time.
So, as I said , not really. It isn’t science it is statistics and as Feynman said “if all you have is statistics you need a better experiment”. That works for me. Thanks for the entertainment though.
Ok 2:15 is all I can take of this nonsense, Anthony you owe me for that 2:15 of my life I can never get back. Have a happy fourth of July.
David in Michigan
July 4, 2013 10:26 am
Way too clever by half…. as they say. The guy reminds me of a snake oil salesman (a very slick talker). Possibly it’s just my personality but these kinds of people inspire a deep distrust in me. Then he starts ranting about video gaming and …… well that did it.
John
July 4, 2013 10:31 am
I only made it to where he cherry picked the temperature rise, stopping the plot so as to not show flat temperatures over the last 15 years. What a display of dishonesty!
KNR
July 4, 2013 10:42 am
No, is the answer . But does show that not only will people try and sell snake oil ,they will try and sell snake milk to. And sadly someone will buy it.
JJ
July 4, 2013 10:43 am
Global warming is our “Greatest Scientific Achievement”?
Cannot be. It is not scientific.
In fact, the whole endeavor of global warming “climate science” has proceded on the same path as this video … First, assume there is anthropogenic global warming.
“Global warming” may well turn out to be the most egregious example of religious/political scaremongering to effect control of the massses ever perpetrated. I suppose that is an achievement of sorts. Similar to the witch hunts, the Inquisition, etc. Not something to celebrate with giddy videos.
milodonharlani
July 4, 2013 10:44 am
“Catastrophic man-made global warming” (which is what I think he means) is not a scientific discovery. It’s not even scientific.
“Global warming” itself is not a discovery. It’s an observation, made already in the late 19th century, during the first stage of recovery from the Little Ice Age. Global cooling was also observed regionally & locally in the 17th century & even earlier, without the phenomenon being recognized as necessarily worldwide in extent. That Earth had been much colder twelve & more millennia previously was also observed in the early 19th century.
The conclusion that climate changes is an observation that could also be considered a discovery, I guess. But there is no actual physical evidence to suggest that humans have had more than a negligible & local effect upon climate. Science can’t even be sure of the sign of any such trivial effect, ie whether the net result of our activities is to warm or cool the planet.
Judy Sanborn
July 4, 2013 10:44 am
No
Mike McMillan
July 4, 2013 10:48 am
Your tax dollars at work.
Me
July 4, 2013 10:50 am
His handy hockey stick chart of temperature ends in 2000, when the warming stopped. I am sure it just coincidental.
mpaul
July 4, 2013 10:53 am
He makes a very powerful point that the measurement methods and instruments are inconsistent and have changed many times over the past 100 years. He then cheerfully dismisses this point by saying that “the scientists” tell him it doesn’t matter. What really matters, according to the video, are the computer models. Because all you need to do is put big data into a computer and it will fix it. (I’m thinking he’s a liberal arts major). He makes the basic claim of climate science very succinctly — “garbage in, consensus out”. Apparently, those of who believe that garbage in = garbage out (or, being generous, garbage in = uncertainty out) are simply flat earthers who need to be culled from the population. But he is very cheerful.
‘Global Warming’ wasn’t a discovery, rather the reverse.
A scientific discovery occurs when something previously unanticipated is found to be true. Plate tectonics is the example that comes to mind.
Global warming (prediction of) derives from century old knowledge about greenhouse gases. That this knowledge has singularly failed to produce any worthwhile future climate predictions, means the scientific discovery is that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere do NOT have the predicted effect derived from laboratory experiments more than 100 years ago.
Note, I didn’t watch the video.
Philip Bradley says:
July 4, 2013 at 10:56 am
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You were wise not to watch it.
CACCA is a repeatedly falsified hypothesis, unscientific from the git-go, not even in the same class with the steady state theory of the universe, immobile continents, spontaneous generation, inheritance of acquired traits or special creation of species, which at least made testable predictions. It’s more akin to astrology, the humor theory of disease, phlogiston or phrenology.
Chuck Nolan
July 4, 2013 11:11 am
Since it’s never been proven to be even a minor problem we’ll assume global warming is real but it’s not catastrophic.
Let’s assume global warming is real and it’s a good thing.
Let’s assume man’s activity not only helped warm our chilly planet (LIA) but also gave us a longer growing season with more vegetation along with improved health, longevity, comfort and security.
What do you think?
Comments below.
cn
Rich Lambert
July 4, 2013 11:14 am
Perhaps one of the greatest money getting inventions, but not a scientific discovery.
TomR,Worc,MA
July 4, 2013 11:15 am
Couldn’t get through all of it. The foundation of the problem with people todays understanding of science is……… to young people, this guy represents Feynman.
Sad really.
DirkH
July 4, 2013 11:25 am
Oh. I thought this would be a “PB Side A Channel” from some anonymous douchebag but now I see it’s “PBS Idea Channel” and the douchebag is an actor called “Finn The Human”.
My condolences for the waste of your tax Dollars. This goes for a professional production these days amongst statist TV bureaucrats? Not that production quality in Germany hasn’t declined to zero as well. They simply noticed that they can make their videos with a cellphone like anyone else and keep the dough for themselves.
TimC
July 4, 2013 11:27 am
Frombeginning of the clip: “… we are starting with the premise that GW is real, caused by people and verifiable by data …; if you want to argue [otherwise] please do that [elsewhere].”
No null hypothesis means no science, no achievement, only spin.
No. But might well be the biggest propaganda campaign ever.
I don’t think douchebag will make a big career in warmunism.
I’m going with the germ theory of disease.
The segué into competitive gaming was so…today.
It may be a discovery. Not certain about scientific. Certain about not being the biggest.
Interesting until the gaming discussion. All in all, a waste of time to watch.
My goodness. Mouthy, isn’t he?
Not really. The data is inconclusive, has been severely manipulated and is being used to achieve political ends. I am of course referring to man made carbon dioxide and its role but also the record is very corrupt and doesn’t lend itself to testable predictions in anything like real time.
So, as I said , not really. It isn’t science it is statistics and as Feynman said “if all you have is statistics you need a better experiment”. That works for me. Thanks for the entertainment though.
Ok 2:15 is all I can take of this nonsense, Anthony you owe me for that 2:15 of my life I can never get back. Have a happy fourth of July.
Way too clever by half…. as they say. The guy reminds me of a snake oil salesman (a very slick talker). Possibly it’s just my personality but these kinds of people inspire a deep distrust in me. Then he starts ranting about video gaming and …… well that did it.
I only made it to where he cherry picked the temperature rise, stopping the plot so as to not show flat temperatures over the last 15 years. What a display of dishonesty!
No, is the answer . But does show that not only will people try and sell snake oil ,they will try and sell snake milk to. And sadly someone will buy it.
Global warming is our “Greatest Scientific Achievement”?
Cannot be. It is not scientific.
In fact, the whole endeavor of global warming “climate science” has proceded on the same path as this video … First, assume there is anthropogenic global warming.
“Global warming” may well turn out to be the most egregious example of religious/political scaremongering to effect control of the massses ever perpetrated. I suppose that is an achievement of sorts. Similar to the witch hunts, the Inquisition, etc. Not something to celebrate with giddy videos.
“Catastrophic man-made global warming” (which is what I think he means) is not a scientific discovery. It’s not even scientific.
“Global warming” itself is not a discovery. It’s an observation, made already in the late 19th century, during the first stage of recovery from the Little Ice Age. Global cooling was also observed regionally & locally in the 17th century & even earlier, without the phenomenon being recognized as necessarily worldwide in extent. That Earth had been much colder twelve & more millennia previously was also observed in the early 19th century.
The conclusion that climate changes is an observation that could also be considered a discovery, I guess. But there is no actual physical evidence to suggest that humans have had more than a negligible & local effect upon climate. Science can’t even be sure of the sign of any such trivial effect, ie whether the net result of our activities is to warm or cool the planet.
No
Your tax dollars at work.
His handy hockey stick chart of temperature ends in 2000, when the warming stopped. I am sure it just coincidental.
He makes a very powerful point that the measurement methods and instruments are inconsistent and have changed many times over the past 100 years. He then cheerfully dismisses this point by saying that “the scientists” tell him it doesn’t matter. What really matters, according to the video, are the computer models. Because all you need to do is put big data into a computer and it will fix it. (I’m thinking he’s a liberal arts major). He makes the basic claim of climate science very succinctly — “garbage in, consensus out”. Apparently, those of who believe that garbage in = garbage out (or, being generous, garbage in = uncertainty out) are simply flat earthers who need to be culled from the population. But he is very cheerful.
‘Global Warming’ wasn’t a discovery, rather the reverse.
A scientific discovery occurs when something previously unanticipated is found to be true. Plate tectonics is the example that comes to mind.
Global warming (prediction of) derives from century old knowledge about greenhouse gases. That this knowledge has singularly failed to produce any worthwhile future climate predictions, means the scientific discovery is that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere do NOT have the predicted effect derived from laboratory experiments more than 100 years ago.
Note, I didn’t watch the video.
Another useful bunch of ignoramus…
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/07/04/climate-change-deniers-follow-the-money.aspx
Philip Bradley says:
July 4, 2013 at 10:56 am
——————————
You were wise not to watch it.
CACCA is a repeatedly falsified hypothesis, unscientific from the git-go, not even in the same class with the steady state theory of the universe, immobile continents, spontaneous generation, inheritance of acquired traits or special creation of species, which at least made testable predictions. It’s more akin to astrology, the humor theory of disease, phlogiston or phrenology.
Since it’s never been proven to be even a minor problem we’ll assume global warming is real but it’s not catastrophic.
Let’s assume global warming is real and it’s a good thing.
Let’s assume man’s activity not only helped warm our chilly planet (LIA) but also gave us a longer growing season with more vegetation along with improved health, longevity, comfort and security.
What do you think?
Comments below.
cn
Perhaps one of the greatest money getting inventions, but not a scientific discovery.
Couldn’t get through all of it. The foundation of the problem with people todays understanding of science is……… to young people, this guy represents Feynman.
Sad really.
Oh. I thought this would be a “PB Side A Channel” from some anonymous douchebag but now I see it’s “PBS Idea Channel” and the douchebag is an actor called “Finn The Human”.
My condolences for the waste of your tax Dollars. This goes for a professional production these days amongst statist TV bureaucrats? Not that production quality in Germany hasn’t declined to zero as well. They simply noticed that they can make their videos with a cellphone like anyone else and keep the dough for themselves.
Frombeginning of the clip: “… we are starting with the premise that GW is real, caused by people and verifiable by data …; if you want to argue [otherwise] please do that [elsewhere].”
No null hypothesis means no science, no achievement, only spin.