Careful what you say about Al Gore Warming, the Pentagon has declared it a national security issue. Soon the NSA will have all the anti-AGW crowd arrested as a national terrorist organization.
PaulH
July 4, 2013 11:29 am
I guess he didn’t get the memo. It’s not called global warming any more, it’s “climate change.” Or is it “global weirding”? Nope, it’s “global climate disruption.” Or is it “boiling over”? I’ve lost track.
But wait a minute, I think he’s saying that competitive (computer) gaming is Our Greatest Scientific Achievement?
I’m confused…
/snark
DaveR
July 4, 2013 11:30 am
Ever hear of the automatic dishwasher? HELLO!
The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
July 4, 2013 11:30 am
I only got to 1.18. Anyone beat that?
Allencic
July 4, 2013 11:32 am
Isn’t he the same guy who sells ShamWows? What a BS artist.
John Tillman
July 4, 2013 11:36 am
DaveR says:
July 4, 2013 at 11:30 am
Ever hear of the automatic dishwasher? HELLO!
****
I’d like to revise my previous vote for the germ theory of disease.
I thought some good satire would be a nice way to end the day but from the comments (the video was slow to load), maybe I’ll look for something else. No, the greatest scientific achievement is the general theory of relativity. The theory of global warming is the greatest under-achievement of our time. Just compare, one man, eight man-years produces a theory that gives us unimaginable things like black holes, expanding universe, gravitational lensing and GPS. A century of tests through observation and laboratory tests. Every prediction holds. Compare this to climate science. Millions of man-years of research. What do we have. A theory that fails every non-trivial prediction. Shame on us.
Latitude
July 4, 2013 11:59 am
If a 40% increase in CO2…only got us a half degree…
mpaul
July 4, 2013 12:02 pm
The greatest scientific discovery of all times has been fossil fuel. It has reduced toil and all but eliminated human slavery. It has permitted women to pursue careers outside of the home. It has led to the rise of the middle class. It has permitted people to live longer, be healthier and enjoy modern prosperity.
higley7
July 4, 2013 12:10 pm
What came first was the political agenda and THEN came “global warming” and the complete ignoring of the fact that the 20 years of warming was part of a natural cycle. We now have cooling and they hang onto global warming because this is a political agenda not a scientific discovery. We have wasted many billions of dollars and 100s of scientific careers studying something that might a scientific interest but not something we can control or do anything about.
The assumption that our great computing power has created useful climate models is totally false. These super-expensive models have failed miserably because there are many scores of major factors that we do not know how to model. One cannot feed all of that data into a supercomputer and expect it to generate a model—it has to be programmed—we do not know how to model even clouds, while also ignoring the Sun, the moon, and their cycles.
I watched 1 minute of it. That guy is just a pain!
milodonharlani
July 4, 2013 12:35 pm
mpaul says:
July 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm
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Not to detract from the vital importance of fossil fuels, but IMO their discovery wasn’t scientific, which implies use of the scientific method. This definition of course lets CACCA out, too, with the critical disadvantage of aiming to return humanity to slavery rather than liberating it, as fossil fuels have done, so aptly noted by you.
Coal was found on or near the surface & used in antiquity, if not pre-history. Likewise surface deposits of petroleum & even outgassings of hydrocarbons.
Were it not arguably off-topic, I’d welcome a discussion here of what really is or are the greatest scientific discoveries, based upon utility to humanity or some other basis. Two have been proposed, unless I missed some.
john
July 4, 2013 12:38 pm
13 seconds and only that long cause I fumbled grabbing the mouse.
Jimbo
July 4, 2013 12:42 pm
That temperature graph looks like it was from Hansen / GISS.
climatereason
Editor
July 4, 2013 12:44 pm
fortunately the 9 year olds this video seems to be aimed at don’t have any influence
tonyb
Bruce Cobb
July 4, 2013 12:58 pm
Is he on crack? Only explaination I can come up with.
Smoking crack on an empty head is never a good idea.
Eugene WR Gallun
July 4, 2013 1:20 pm
mpaul july 4, 10:53am
garbage in, consensus out
Got to love it!!!!! That’s also an accurate description of socialist political thought.
Eugene WR Gallun
climatereason says:
July 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm
fortunately the 9 year olds this video seems to be aimed at don’t have any influence
tonyb
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heh. Yep.
Cute video. He does try and I think he believes. Still, I’ll take the 31,000+ of the Petition Project vs the 75 of that 97% poll, or the 41 of Cook’s silly paper.
Ron Hansen
July 4, 2013 1:35 pm
I would like my 7 minutes and 41 seconds back please!
Lars P.
July 4, 2013 1:39 pm
Well this was very useful! I learned some important things:
mpaul july 4, 10:53am garbage in, consensus out
indeed very descriptive, and yes Apparently, those of who believe that garbage in = garbage out (or, being generous, garbage in = uncertainty out) are simply flat earthers who need to be culled from the population.
furthermore I was still using the old CAGW when since years climate aware people talk not about ‘Global Warming’ but ‘Climate Change’ – so this makes it CACC. Question @ur momisugly milodonharlani – where does the last A come from in CACCA?
milodonharlani
July 4, 2013 1:41 pm
Activism, activists, alarmism or alarmists, or less printable A-words.
csanborn
July 4, 2013 1:43 pm
I’ve been sticking my head out the window for the weather for some 60+ years now. It seems the same now as it did any other year.
Careful what you say about Al Gore Warming, the Pentagon has declared it a national security issue. Soon the NSA will have all the anti-AGW crowd arrested as a national terrorist organization.
I guess he didn’t get the memo. It’s not called global warming any more, it’s “climate change.” Or is it “global weirding”? Nope, it’s “global climate disruption.” Or is it “boiling over”? I’ve lost track.
But wait a minute, I think he’s saying that competitive (computer) gaming is Our Greatest Scientific Achievement?
I’m confused…
/snark
Ever hear of the automatic dishwasher? HELLO!
I only got to 1.18. Anyone beat that?
Isn’t he the same guy who sells ShamWows? What a BS artist.
DaveR says:
July 4, 2013 at 11:30 am
Ever hear of the automatic dishwasher? HELLO!
****
I’d like to revise my previous vote for the germ theory of disease.
Was he ever made to learn even how to calculate the temperature of a radiantly heated colored ball ?
I’m with Tom Trevor – I think I reached 1:02 before I’d enough. I think I beat The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
The climate computer models have still failed. The 10 hottest years on the record is the weather and not the climate. Finally, global warming was ‘discovered’ again and again.
Farmers Almanac
http://www.almanac.com/sites/new.almanac.com/files/1895_cvr1_0.png
“Fire and Ice”
http://www.mrc.org/node/30586
I thought some good satire would be a nice way to end the day but from the comments (the video was slow to load), maybe I’ll look for something else. No, the greatest scientific achievement is the general theory of relativity. The theory of global warming is the greatest under-achievement of our time. Just compare, one man, eight man-years produces a theory that gives us unimaginable things like black holes, expanding universe, gravitational lensing and GPS. A century of tests through observation and laboratory tests. Every prediction holds. Compare this to climate science. Millions of man-years of research. What do we have. A theory that fails every non-trivial prediction. Shame on us.
If a 40% increase in CO2…only got us a half degree…
The greatest scientific discovery of all times has been fossil fuel. It has reduced toil and all but eliminated human slavery. It has permitted women to pursue careers outside of the home. It has led to the rise of the middle class. It has permitted people to live longer, be healthier and enjoy modern prosperity.
What came first was the political agenda and THEN came “global warming” and the complete ignoring of the fact that the 20 years of warming was part of a natural cycle. We now have cooling and they hang onto global warming because this is a political agenda not a scientific discovery. We have wasted many billions of dollars and 100s of scientific careers studying something that might a scientific interest but not something we can control or do anything about.
The assumption that our great computing power has created useful climate models is totally false. These super-expensive models have failed miserably because there are many scores of major factors that we do not know how to model. One cannot feed all of that data into a supercomputer and expect it to generate a model—it has to be programmed—we do not know how to model even clouds, while also ignoring the Sun, the moon, and their cycles.
I watched 1 minute of it. That guy is just a pain!
mpaul says:
July 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm
—————
Not to detract from the vital importance of fossil fuels, but IMO their discovery wasn’t scientific, which implies use of the scientific method. This definition of course lets CACCA out, too, with the critical disadvantage of aiming to return humanity to slavery rather than liberating it, as fossil fuels have done, so aptly noted by you.
Coal was found on or near the surface & used in antiquity, if not pre-history. Likewise surface deposits of petroleum & even outgassings of hydrocarbons.
Were it not arguably off-topic, I’d welcome a discussion here of what really is or are the greatest scientific discoveries, based upon utility to humanity or some other basis. Two have been proposed, unless I missed some.
13 seconds and only that long cause I fumbled grabbing the mouse.
That temperature graph looks like it was from Hansen / GISS.
fortunately the 9 year olds this video seems to be aimed at don’t have any influence
tonyb
Is he on crack? Only explaination I can come up with.
Smoking crack on an empty head is never a good idea.
mpaul july 4, 10:53am
garbage in, consensus out
Got to love it!!!!! That’s also an accurate description of socialist political thought.
Eugene WR Gallun
climatereason says:
July 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm
fortunately the 9 year olds this video seems to be aimed at don’t have any influence
tonyb
================
heh. Yep.
Cute video. He does try and I think he believes. Still, I’ll take the 31,000+ of the Petition Project vs the 75 of that 97% poll, or the 41 of Cook’s silly paper.
I would like my 7 minutes and 41 seconds back please!
Well this was very useful! I learned some important things:
mpaul july 4, 10:53am garbage in, consensus out
indeed very descriptive, and yes Apparently, those of who believe that garbage in = garbage out (or, being generous, garbage in = uncertainty out) are simply flat earthers who need to be culled from the population.
furthermore I was still using the old CAGW when since years climate aware people talk not about ‘Global Warming’ but ‘Climate Change’ – so this makes it CACC. Question @ur momisugly milodonharlani – where does the last A come from in CACCA?
Activism, activists, alarmism or alarmists, or less printable A-words.
I’ve been sticking my head out the window for the weather for some 60+ years now. It seems the same now as it did any other year.