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The NYTimes has two articles: The Pause in global temperatures and the Great Lakes water levels.
Not mentioned, but implied, Natural Variation overwhelms the impact of CO2. The message should be loud and clear: we don’t understand Natural Variation; Natural Variation is more powerful than CO2; if Anthropogenic CO2 is THE climate driver, CO2 isn’t very powerful; CO2 is a greenhouse gas if we measure it in a box, on a lab bench, in a controlled physics lab. The take home message, CO2 is a bit player, in a bit role, making a bit contribution on a grand stage in the Grand Theater of Climate Change. No wonder climate scientists can’t find the CO2 signal; a trace gas providing a trace impact.
The NYTimes Great Lakes water levels article does not mention my measuring at the end of my dock 15 inches of water level rise from last September’s water level on Lake Huron two weeks ago. I have heard there has been more rain since. The Snow Pack of Northern Ontario is substantial this winter, so the water level is projected by the Army Corps of Engineers (ACE) to be 6 inches higher this summer than last summer. 300 tons more carried by Great Lakes Carrier ships per inch of increase water levels. Officially, the lowest level YEAR on the Great Lakes, measured since 1837 was…1964. The highest record level was..1986. In 1986, Chicago was regularly flooded and the Lake Front properties owners, who represented billions of dollars of waterfront property, were more than displeased and went to USA Congress who authorized the ACE to dredge the St. Clair River to provide an outlet. Power politics from a Chicago (sound familiar) group, pressing Congress and ACE to act. Hmmm. The ACE is being asked to find the Goldie Locks just right water level between competing…Corporate interests.
It seems the NYTimes and its reporters have some more reading to do to flush out their articles on Catastrophic Change. At this point in time, what they say: it just ain’t so.
Snotrocket says:
June 11, 2013 at 2:15 pm
“That’s not a bad finesse, Paul, and a good point. China supports (say) the UN’s/Greens’ drive to ‘renewables’ and they corner the market in PVs. The West installs, and comes to rely on PVs, which the Chinese have made sure will not survive too long. ”
One correction; we don’t RELY on PV here in Germany. We RELY on the spinning reserve of gas plants. PV doesn’t do reliable.
@willr
INterestingly, the minority Liberal government introduced an anti-SLAPP bill in the House just last week. Bill 83 Protection of Public Participation Act. The linked article does not say when she was actually served. I wonder if some tree-hugging MPP pushed for the introduction of the Bill, just to provide some help for her.
http://ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&Intranet=&BillID=2810
THe provisions are quite good and contain a deadly ‘gotcha’ for any party in NextEra’s shoes. Not that I am generally sympathetic to tree-huggers, but the regime under which wind farms operate is outrageous. And it sounds like she has a number of good counter-claims against NextEra. The Bill provides for a summary judgment procedure to cut off what would usually be a long-drawn defamation suit, And the plaintiff cannot win: if the anti-Slapp motion wins, the plaintiff pays *full indemnity costs*. If the motion loses, the plaintiff does not get costs. THAT is a substantial change from usual Ontario practice. And summary judgment motions start at about $50,000 each party….
AND if the judge thinks that the action was brought in bad faith, he can award damages in addition. And the plaintiff cannot amend the statement of claim to avoid an anti-slapp motion.
I hope that the Bill passes quickly.
And no, I don’t like wind turbines at any time, much less wind farms supported by highway robbery level feed in tariffs.
Meanwhile, good ol’ Former Vice President Al Gore lamented on Tuesday that scientists “won’t let us yet” link tornadoes to climate change. Let’s you know just how important the “science” is to him. Since it was a friendly venue, he was surprisingly honest, stating “there’s a political interest in determining climate change causes extreme weather.”
and there you have it. The battle we’re fighting all wrapped up with a nice little bow on top.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/304755-gore-says-record-breaking-tornadoes-a-result-of-climate-change#ixzz2VwqjYo00
Latimer Alder says:
June 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm
“‘The NYT says
‘Rarely do they mention that most of the warmest years in the historical record have occurred recently’
The author is confused about the difference between ‘it has warmed’ and ‘it is warming’. Or between the data itself and its first derivative wrt time.
Consider a ball thrown into the air. In the first half the ball is going up. Its height is increasing and its direction is up. ”
Even simpler. “Historical record” is meaningless with regard to temperature. Historians use old writings; “prehistory” is what happened before historic writings. With temperature there is the instrumental record and the proxies, no historical record. It’s meaningless and that is probably why the NYT socialist progressives have used the word. Or are they smart enough to know what they did? Probably not. If they want historical records i.e. writings maybe some old rune stones will do; Newfoundland was called Vinland by the Norse, how about that.
And they left behind runestones.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2013/06/RIR-130604.php
Why haven’t skeptics won the war yet?
Nature is mocking the models, yet the null hypothesis seems to be firmly in the warmists’ grasp – what has to happen to overturn the popular (mis)conception?
Here is an online course in verification and validation of computer models. Provided as a service to the consensus.
https://www.aiaa.org/Secondary.aspx?id=14987
Not sure if Anthony will approve of this – but it is a genuine question/request for this open thread!
Can anyone recommend good factual solar power websites with real/genuine guidance for small solar panel applications. I do not just want an off grid mains system – I will be looking for a small mains (240V, probs less than 3kW) system for installation in Portugal later (which their appears to be lots of info for) – but also I am needing a low voltage system (probs 24 V?) just to power a well water pump to raise water up about 10 to 15 metres (max) to a tank and thence it will be gravity fed to the house. I am struggling to find suitable pumps (only need low flow/output) or sensibly priced inverters for mains voltage pumps. Our well is 100m from the house and I want an independent pump system to top up the tank when required. Low cost/maintainence is key here! Any tips fromn opthers who have done the same would be useful. PS – I have seen some stuff online in the USA – even a solar borehole pump – but shipping cost is prohibitive compared to the goods, so European sites would be better?
Just read an article about the magnetic N. Pole racing toward Siberia. What’s up VUKCEVIC?
For those following the slow decline in global temperatures:
It is now possible to see the data in HadCRUT3gl till 2013.18 in WFT:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1980/to:2013.18/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1980/to:2001/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2001/to:2013.18/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1980/to:2013.18/mean:13
The HadCRUT3gl trend since 2001 is now near -0.56°C (-1.01°F) per century.
It is now possible to see the data in HadCRUT4gl till 2013.26 in WFT:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1980/to:2013.26/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1980/to:2002/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2013.26/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1980/to:2013.26/mean:13
The HadCRUT4gl trend since 2002 is now near -0.5°C (-0.9°F) per century:
I have posted both graphics and links in my web page.
read the hysterical comments below this article-truly astounding the way some people can get so worked up about the type of climate changes we can trace back throughout the Holocene
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/10/1214936/-The-N-Hemisphere-s-Atmospheric-Circulation-Has-Collapsed-Creating-a-Persistent-Polar-Cyclone
tonyb
Andres Valencia
you can see the decline very well in CET as I noted in a recent article
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/08/the-curious-case-of-rising-co2-and-falling-temperatures/
tonyb
tonyb,
Yes, I also link to the CET data, but although it is considered a good proxy for global temperatures it is not the same kind of data. And “slow decline” does not apply to CET; Last time I checked, the annual mean anomalies from the Hadley Centre Central England Temperature (HadCET) data set showed a decline of some 0.6°C from 2003 to 2012! (that’s cold!)
suyts says:
June 11, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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but my headline had more “grab” to it…
….saying the MET was wrong….well, no one would look
LOL
Can anyone tell me if HADCRUT4 for April has been announced yet?
Thank you.
Asking for an extreme weather page.
Extreme weather is the last resort of global warming fanaticism. Sadly there is no such page showing charts of.
droughts
floods
hurricanes
tornados
cyclone energy
etc
for the world, US and perhaps Europe and Australia..
This would be an extremely useful link to refer to in any extreme weather discussion.
Isn’t the NY City temperature controlled by CO2 emissions from extra-large soft drinks?
FWIW, because of this article (from this February)
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-record-low-temperature-for-northern-hemisphere-set-russia-s-siberia
I sent an email to the maintainer of this page
http://wmo.asu.edu/northern-hemisphere-lowest-temperature
(it says the record is a tie between 1892 and 1933)
I got a polite email back saying the Russian weather service had not authenticated the record so they were not going to count it.
I do not know if they were being warmist or not. Seems to me the 1892 low might not have been officially authenticated, but they are going with it.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bioe.12029/abstract
Just when you thought it couldn’t get nuttier, bioethicists want in on the warmism gravy train.
Open Thread?
OK, then…
Iowahawk waxes lyrical on the all-American carbon-belcher!
http://iowahawk.typepad.com
Here http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/climatic-phenomena-pages/extreme-weather-page/
It’s a submenu that pops up when you hover over “Climatic Phenomena”
Samurai, 2013.26 is the beginning of April 2013, I think. So yes.
philincalifornia says: “With all the Murray Salby discussion going on, it got me wondering about setting up a multi-decadal experiment to measure CO2 outgassing from the Pacific Ocean. If I was going to do that, where would be a good location for the measurements ……….. ?”
Not on top of a volcano.
jorgekafkazar says:
June 11, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Oh come on. They do a fine job keeping the volcanic and urban components out of the CO2 record at Mauna Loa. Go read http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/04/under-the-volcano-over-the-volcano/
However, you are right – this experiment has to be done at sea level. Duh.
ATTENTION MASSACHUSETTS VOTERS!
My own Representative in Congress, the vile Ed Malarkey, is running for the Senate seat vacated by our ersatz Secretary of State, John Faux Kerry. Malarkey, in case you just wandered in from Siberia, was the co-sponsor of the egregious Cap and Trade (a.k.a. Crap and Tax) bill that passed the House, but fortunately not the Senate. Malarkey is an inveterate, unabashed, and completely ignorant Global Warming Alarmist. He must be stopped from gaining a Senate seat.
So even if you are underwhelmed by his nominal Republican opponent, Gabriel Gomez (a former Navy Seal and businessman), VOTE FOR GOMEZ. It’s your patriotic duty.
/Mr Lynn