From the Fahrenheit 451 department comes this indictment of California’s higher education’s “tolerance” for opposing views. When I first got the tip on this, I thought to myself “nobody can be this stupid to photograph themselves doing this” but, here they are, right from the San Jose State University Meteorology Department web page:
The caption from the SJSU website reads:
This week we received a deluge of free books from the Heartland Institute {this or this }. The book is entitled “The Mad, Mad, Made World of Climatism”. SHown above, Drs. Bridger and Clements test the flammability of the book.
Maybe they just can’t help themselves, note the pictures on the wall.
Here is a screencap of the website relevant section:
SJSU Meteorology page is here: http://www.sjsu.edu/meteorology/
Fully archived here:
http://www.webcitation.org/6GJvAbb2t
This is the link for book: The Mad Mad Mad World of Climatism
I think Drs. Bridger and Clements have proved the point of the book quite well.
if you wish to comment on their photo, here’s where:
Department of Meteorology
San Jose State University
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192-0104
Voice: (408) 924-5200
FAX: (408) 924-5191
Email: meteorology@sjsu.edu
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UPDATE: 12:50PM PDT
The photo and caption has been removed – gone from the web page.
http://www.sjsu.edu/meteorology/
But it is permanently archived here: http://www.webcitation.org/6GJvAbb2t
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philjourdan:
Your post at May 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm says to me
I have not, I do not, and I will not excuse the USSR; never, not ever.
I deplore ALL totalitarianism including that of the USSR.
Withdraw your offensive remark and apologise.
Richard
philjourdan:
Also, in support of your abusive and untrue remark, you list 4 points which you claim I made and you are refuting. I made none of those points.
You have demonstrated why I said there was no reason to discuss such matters.
Richard
So gute litle Nazis. die furher wäre stolz auf dich. vielleicht kannst du ihm anzuschließen, in der Hölle
They must be those Puritan book-burning Christians we hear about so often. The pics on the wall, just another way of saying they’re homesick.
Oh, and Richard…20 paces at dawn. (Jeez.)
Remember it’s not about Climate. It’s about control and a weird religion…if I may re-introduce how it will soon be.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcAjXjKsyQ&w=420&h=315%5D
I notice their spelling and use of uppercase is indifferent at best. Typical products of the US educational system…
Maybe if people had done their research instead of merely calling them nazis would know that Dr. Clements is recognized internationally as a fire weather expert, which explains the pictures, and Dr. Bridger is an accomplished researcher. Since I’ve yet to see anyone with the credentials to make a good argument for why the book is relevant, please humble yourselves people and respect science until YOU can publish work disproving decades of research. Just because you can’t comprehend the dynamics of the atmosphere doesn’t mean you are suddenly an expert on climate change.
Atmospheric Scientist?
As if.
“A.S.” says:
“Since I’ve yet to see anyone with the credentials to make a good argument for why the book is relevant, please humble yourselves people and respect science until YOU can publish work disproving decades of research.”
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You don’t see because you are not looking. The proprietor of this website, and many other contributors here are published, peer reviewed authors.
So, what are your peer reviewed publications? Post your C.V. here.
Atmospheric Scientist:
At May 5, 2013 at 11:23 am you write
Whether or not people “comprehend the dynamics of the atmosphere” (many here do) is not a reason for them to accept the actions of people who do NOT “respect science” by advocating burning books.
Your failure to assess the book or to read opinions of it by people with “credentials” is not relevant to what these people did.
And the expertise of the two miscreants is also not relevant.
These people are unfit to teach the young because – by their act – they have displayed the antithesis of academic thought. They should be dismissed from the university immediately.
I am not surprised that you have not put your name to your post. I, too, would be ashamed to have my name associated with such views as you have expressed.
Richard
@ur momisugly Atmospheric Scientist says:
May 5, 2013 at 11:23 am
You’re not very high functioning are you?
Head in the clouds? Oxygen deprivation?
You managed to miss the entire point – everything – about the post and comments?
Didn’t register at all?
The “internationally recognized fire expert” and her “accomplished” sidekick know exactly which books require burning?
Did you think this was a book review discussion to be followed by a frenzy of destruction?
Then followed by abasement before a photo of your gurus?
And YOU understand the dynamics of the atmosphere?
Could you inform “Climate Scientists” please, they obviously don’t know.
Boomers are such dorks. They “questioned authority,” and utilized the new ethic, “if it feels good do it.”
But what were our poor Deep Thinking Progressives to do when their two greatest axioms collided? What were they to do when they discovered Authority just Feels Good?
The answer is “Transcend Reality.”
Third Way politics are so “Transcendent” that Boomers’ Authority can Feel Good and you, the lucky Americans raised and educated by Boomers, don’t need the “Reality” of personal liberty anymore. Third Way politics are actually too wonderful to reveal to people all at once, so it has to be concealed and implemented in incremental steps. But Boomers just know you are going to love it. However, there is a little problem with asymmetrical information availability, which can cause parties to disagree about things and become uncivil, so we just need to get rid of some of these asymmetrical books, and asymmetrical healthcare plans, and asymmetrical cultural traditions, etc..
If you are an ‘atmospheric scientist’, you would know no one named “Dr. Bridger is an accomplished researcher”. She did not publish papers for a long long time. You apparently do not know what is the standard of international expertise, and thus consider this book burner is one. Wait a minute, are you one of them?
@ur momisugly Zeke says:
May 5, 2013 at 11:55 am
Very good!
It’s been more than a couple of hours now, “Atmospheric Scientist”. Where is your C.V.? I expected it to be posted by now [if you are really legit].
We should have a chance to review your C.V., since you have falsely denigrated people who comment here as lacking credentials. So post your C.V., “Atmospheric Scientist” — and then readers can decide if you are credible — or not. Because for all we know, you could be a high school graduate, intending to enroll in Wymyn’s Studies.
Assuming they didn’t actually burn anything, wouldn’t it be interesting to find out what they did with the books? Are they in the trash, did they return them, perhaps they’re holding up a desk somewhere? I don’t imagine they actually put them on the shelves after their little attempt at fun…
Book burning, how appropiate, old age pensioners in the UK have resorted to buying cheap books to burn in their stoves as extremely cold winter are getting harsher and longer, a special effect of global warming were told!
Froze to death by global warming, a Manniacal phrase if there ever was one.
Well-paid tenured professor, department chair, book burner, and future pensioner (I believe she’s in her 60’s) Dr. Alison Bridger might glance at the following article which details California’s $1 trillion public debt, including vast unfunded pension obligations for civil servants like Dr. Bridger: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/05/californias-statelocal-governments.html#yY9xEi8Fa2IrZ4rk.99 . When CalPers (the state pension fund) needs more cash to pay pensioners their lavish pensions and benefits, CalPers gets that cash from the General Fund, i.e. the taxpayers. In a few years, your tax dollars will support Dr. Alison Bridger’s $80,000 per year pension and health plan.
Everyone should read the following article about female teachers grading female students higher than male students for equivalent workproduct: http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/2013/03/15/two-studies-show-one-cause-of-boys-educational-failure-their-teachers/
Too dumb to be stupid.
“Atmospheric Scientist says:
May 5, 2013 at 11:23 am”
Living a fire prone country, Australia, I have never heard of a “fire weather expert”. Certainly heard of a fire *ecology* expert however (Which I understand CA is similar). Of course, if “fire weather” in CA is anything like it is in Australia you quickly discover that “fire weather” is, most of the time, created by arsonists.
“Eugene S Conlin says:
May 3, 2013 at 10:41 am”
Al Gore did invent the internet didn’t he? 😉 I guess the point I was making it matters not how many books are burnt, they are, mostly, available digitally. All this stunt does is draw attention as to why they want to burnt it. There is no such thing as bad press to raise attention on a book that might ordinarily go un-noticed. I’d say thank you SJSU for raising attention to the book and at the same time confirming what most, rational thinking types who have or have not studied science, understand to be the alarmists position on the claim humans are changing climate in a bad way from the ~3% of ~390ppm/v CO2 given that we know changes in CO2 *FOLLOW* changes in temps by ~800 years.
I stayed out of this debate for the most part as I failed to see how it had anything to do with the topic. Your libel of the American right was ignored. I ignored it until you responded to Colorado Wellington @May 3, 2013 at 1:13 pm, in which he stated:
“… which the Nazis launched in concert with their fellow totalitarian power, the Soviet Union, by their staggered attack on Poland in September 1939 …”
And you responded (even quoting him) with: “but your assertion is ridiculous.”
So I made point #1. If you are not denying Point #1, then perhaps you should not quote point #1, and then say it is both an assertion and ridiculous. Both of which are patently false.
Second, you clearly stated: “in 1942 Germany invaded the USSR.”
I corrected you with point #2. Germany invaded in 1941, not 1942. There is nothing to apologize for there. Period.
Third, I was clarifying Colorado Wellington’s statement of “the Nazis launched in concert with their fellow totalitarian power” which demonstrated that Stalin was not only in bed with Hitler, but apparently, for his own gain, fully supported his policies. I did not claim you made the point #3, I was proving that Hitler was not right, but left wing.
Finally, as regards point #4, it is a direct refutation of your allegation that “Poland was one of the countries which the allies agreed would be ceded to the USSR.” The allies did no such thing, as point #4 clearly demonstrates.
So if anything, I have but one thing to apologize for, and that is claiming you are defending the USSR. I will gladly do so when you can either further explain your denial of Colorado Wellington’s point, and stop libeling the American Right. Indeed, the only time the American Nazi party has been in the news in the past 10 years in regards to politics is when they came out in support of Cindy Sheehan, a far left flake. They are merely an offshoot of the American left as can clearly be seen in both their rhetoric and support.
I greatly respect your breadth and depth of knowledge on the climate issues here. However, you have either misstated or been in error on your knowledge of history.
@ur momisugly Atmospheric Scientist says:
May 5, 2013 at 11:23 am
The way I read it he is sayin the only possible way to remove the book burning Neo-Nazi movement from the California University system is by [trimmed, Mod]
philjourdan:
At May 6, 2013 at 10:16 am.
I have NOT libeled the American right. There have been several WUWT threads which demonstrate the truth of what I said. Only last week, this one
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/28/stephan-lewandowsky-flees-australia-in-wake-of-investigations/
I await your apology for your smear that I am an apologist for the USSR.
Richard
You now have 2 things to either explain or apologize for before I will reciprocate. As was explained to you many times, it is the ultra left that idolizes H1tler as PROVEN by their love of Cindy Sheehan who is left of Nancy Pelosi. This was the remark you made in this thread. You have made others.
if you retract your smears, clarify why you said Colorado Wellington’s statement was both an “assertion” and ridiculous, I will withdraw my charge and apologize. But I will not be bullied into it.
If the comment clears moderation, you will have yoru answer.
philjourdan says:
May 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Phil,
I stayed away for the same reasons you listed earlier but I remained puzzled by Richard’s inexplicable smear in his very first response to me.
His reference to the April 28 “Lewandowsky” thread is the key. Take a look if you haven’t already.
It’s off the deep end.
@Colorado Wellington – Yes, I remember that one. I stayed out of it then because I saw no purpose in the comment or taking the thread off topic. When he resurrected the attack here, I stepped in. Perhaps I should not have. But I did not want to see him make so many egregious mistakes as normally he is very accurate and meticulous about what he writes.