It seems the debate is getting a bit testy in the land of watercress sandwiches and doilies*.
“Man-made global-warming hypothesis is dead in the water” says Godfrey Bloom MEP, but it gets better, he points a finger at the chairman and shouts “denier”.
Watch.
h/t to Tom Nelson
* Some people thought I was referring to Belgium. No, I was referring to the EU Parliament in Brussels. I had lunch service there in a roomful of skeptics while Climategate raged in my mind, and I couldn’t say anything until it was verified. I recall the lunch service because it seemed to heighten the surreal situation I found myself in. – Anthony
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Gary Pearse @ur momisugly 8.06
When the alarmists were trumpetting the ice loss in 2007 there was no corresponding cold weather in the UK was there. The connection has only just been established in more recent years and has nothing to do with the temperature flatlining of the past 15 or so years or the quieter sun or clouds or anything else. We know CO2 caused the Artic to melt this time but what caused it to melt in 1958 or the times before that?? Just asking.
I heard the UKIP leader, Nigel Farage, speak at a public meeting to rally support before the forthcoming UK local elections on May 2nd. The results of the elections will be very interesting as UKIP will do very well and will give a bloody nose to the three AGW alarmist parties in the UK.
UKIP is the only party in the UK with sensible policies on the EU (get out of it), energy (scrap wind turbines etc and build real power stations), big Government (slash it and give power to local people) etc etc.
He’s not saying “D—ER”, he’s saying you’re in denial, denial, denial.
Anyway, his point was well articulated.
davidxn says:
“I think it’s ironic, but rather inappropriate to use the “D” word against alarmists; we should not stoop to their level.”
I would have preferred it if he had stuck to “in denial” because that what is happening. Having accused those where rightly sceptical that CO2 was main cause of the strong warming in the 80 and 90s of being in denial of what was happening to the planet, the alarmists are now in denial about the fact that that alarming trend had stopped and their predictions are now irrefutably proven to be exaggerated.
He was clearly playing to the camera and his “denia, denia” [D-word filter] crescendo falls horribly flat.
However, he has to be congratulated for ‘speaking truth to power’ and getting this said so clearly of the floor of the powerless european pseudo-parliament.
This makes a good follow up to Monckton’s coup at Doha last year.
Phillip Bratby says:
April 15, 2013 at 11:18 pm
“I heard the UKIP leader, Nigel Farage, speak at a public meeting to rally support before the forthcoming UK local elections on May 2nd. ”
As a fellow Brit I am not persuaded to vote UKIP in local council elections round here. But I am persuaded to vote.
And I would like to remind all my fellow Brits who read WUWT to make sure you get your vote in for somebody on Thursday week.
If we don’t engage we will become as irrelevant as the EU parliament.
“For those people in this Chamber who havn’t had the benifit of a formal education….”
Oh dear. That set the scene for another characteristiclly embarrassing performance. Was he drunk and on very heavy prescription painkillers again? We should be grateful for small mercies – at least he didn’t call the Germans Nazis, or wallow in the loss of life through bombings.
Full list of gaffs here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_Bloom
I think the fellow should have said surface temperature increase appears to have stalled (although statistically it is too early to tell yet).
Sea temperatures (as measures in the first 700 meters) continues to increase.
Sadly, it is we who are in denial if we think that it will help reverse this oppressive and bankrupting legislation that exists in EU statute. The only way to free member states, and we in Britain in particular, from its clutches is to leave the EU and for our own national legislatures to come to their senses.
Loved his line about those who have not received a formal education, makes them look like sheep who will just follow the rest of the flock. Beautifully done. Why can’t we have leaders like this?
Oh we did in Maggie.
James Bull
davidxn says:
“I think it’s ironic, but rather inappropriate to use the “D” word against alarmists; we should not stoop to their level.”
There’s no point in holding the moral high-ground if it just becomes your final resting place. Fix bayonets. CHARGE!
“For those who haven’t had a formal education – Carbon and Carbon Dioxide are different things”
LOL I bet they didn’t even realise it was sarcasm!
I wonder if he actually understands the science or if he simply believes… as does nearly everyone else, pro or against or else.
Sock it to ’em babe.
Godfrey you beaut!
Txomin says: April 16, 2013 at 12:39 am | “I wonder if he actually understands the science or if he simply believes… as does nearly everyone else, pro or against or else.”
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It doesn’t matter, science was a casualty a long time ago … we can dick around arguing the semantics of science or we can “Fix bayonets. CHARGE!”
Don’t you see what the Administration is doing to you in the ‘States ? Do you think they give a fig about the science ? No, they make it up as they go along … I give you your EPA as an example. The ‘science’ is just to keep you distracted. The sad thing is that the rest of the world government goons look to the USA for leadership and mimic the buffoonery … in Australia we have the climate clown, Flannery; we have the US reject Lewandowsky; and our socialist feral government adapts Obummer campaign tactics to our longest ever election campaign … we have more foreigners running the feral government campaign than we do Australians. Heavens, we have enough of our own clowns to need imports !
@Village Idiot
Your nom de plume befits your post.
“Attack the messenger and not the message” is a typical lefty/commie tactic, which unfortunately for the likes of you, simply won’t work any more.
Please return to your village, as you are depriving them of their idiot.
You really don’t want this chap on your side.
In December 2008, Bloom had to be carried out by an intern after making a European Parliament speech while drunk. During the speech, Bloom denied that the MEPs from Poland, the Czech Republic or Latvia have the ability to understand economic relations. In February 2012, Bloom interrupted a debate with the question whether the Cambridge University Women’s Rugby team should wear their logo on the front or back of their shirts.
Kevin Cave says:
April 16, 2013 at 1:53 am
@Village Idiot
Your nom de plume befits your post.
Quite so. And a pity his education didn’t extend to spelling “benefit”.
Moe and Txomin:
I am replying to your posts at April 15, 2013 at 11:55 pm and April 16, 2013 at 12:39 am, respectively.
Moe, you display your prejudice when you write
Surface temperature rise has stopped; n.b. NOT “stalled”. Whether surface temperature will rise or fall in future is not known.
As you say, one inaccurate measure of upper layer sea temperature suggests that water layer is warming slightly. But, so what? Clearly, that warming is not directly coupled to surface temperature because surface temperature has stopped warming.
Txomin, you imply and suggest
Godfrey Bloom MEP (whose politics I deplore) clearly does understand at least some of the science because in the video he points out errors of understanding of the science; i.e.
1. he rightly said carbon is not carbon dioxide
and
2. he rightly said global warming does not exist because it stopped more than 15 years ago.
Indeed, anybody who understands the science knows – n.b. knows and does not “believe” – there is no rational justification for policy responses to AGW. However, as Bloom says in the video, and as Moe demonstrates with his post, the faith of AGW-believers blinds them to reality.
Richard
Gareth Phillips says: April 16, 2013 at 1:56 am
I agree. Bloom is, on balance, a liability. Although I enjoyed this particular bit of knock-about.
Roger Helmer is in an entirely different league.
Although the pitiful figleaf of ‘democracy’ represented by the European Parliament is an embarrassing and eye-wateringly expensive irrelevance.
Thank God for Ukip, it seems to be the only party in the EU that knows the EU is corrupt to the core and is saying it out loud. The Unelected Commissars are raking it in by pushing policies which raise extra cash for pet projects they have shares or family interests in. Now we have global warming creating damn cold winters, absolute c**p. Truth is the daughter of time.
“It seems the debate is getting a bit testy in the land of watercress sandwiches and doilies.
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Maybe a bit too testy. I could see the video earlier tonight but get a blank screen there now
Re the Bloom detractors. Yes, he’s a bit of a loose canon but so what? Give me an eccentric individual politician (drunk or sober) any day than a toe-the-line, anodyne yes man whose only role is to do the bidding of his masters.
Friends:
There have been several comments concerning allegations that Godfrey Bloom MEP has attended the European Parliament while inebriated.
Some people – especially Americans – often fail to understand the robust and sometimes casual nature of British Parliamentarians. The following anecdote may assist.
Prime Minister Winston Churchill often attended Parliament when inebriated. One evening he addressed the Commons while even less sober than usual. As he left the chamber he was accosted by the redoubtable Bessie Braddock MP who – in offended tone – said to him
Sir Winston looked at Mrs Braddock and replied
Then he continued his exit from the chamber.
Richard
Mr Bloom’s choice of “D-word” tactic detracts from his otherwise correct assessment and portrayal of the facts.
This sort of thing is never covered by the tax-funded BBC, which has a duty to be impartial. I note that their current leading environment & energy activist/analyst, Roger Harrabin, @RHarrabin , has come over a little quiet of late. Looking at his twitter feed, there is some evidence of Operation BACKPEDAL, at least in respect of the nonsense of biofuels.
Another hairline crack in the dam …
The alarmists are Deniers:- they deny that climate actually changes. They wish to ”stabilise” climate by reducing our miniscule output of CO2. They even deny science with such rubbish.