…by agreeing with and reposting a photo that insults not only the intelligence of rational thinking people, but Native American people as well. (warning – graphic language)
Source: http://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/314392960777203712
The real reason for a coal terminal? Export. Much like the feared and loathed KXL pipeline will move the oil out of Canada for export, that coal is going to get used somewhere. Since Bill and his friends have worked to demonize coal use in the USA, UK, Australia, Europe, and elsewhere, it gets exported to places like China. But, weepy Bill and his protester friends don’t understand much beyond the emotional arguments being made.
All McKibben and the environmental movement have succeeded in doing is shifting the location of the use of these fuels.
Policycritic, you must admit that if any of the raw materials that were extracted from the ground in British Columbia were to be processed in BC into other products with added value for the consumer, then the industries which converted those materials would need to consume a lot of energy and to generate a lot of waste, doing so in ways that are probably at odds with Canada’s environmental protection policies, if the conversion had to be done at a cost which is comparable with that of BC’s foreign competitors.
How could you justify running any those kinds of material conversion industries in British Columbia knowing the kind of environmental damage that would result?
If you don’t like what the extractive industries are doing to BC, then shut them all down. The easy way to do that is with a resource separation tax set at whatever rate is needed to prevent the extracted raw materials from being competitively priced on world markets. This is an approach for saving British Columbia from the rape-ruin-and-run miners and loggers that most of BC’s politicians would find very easy to support.
Greenies, Progressives, Leftists – they’re all nihilists, although they won’t admit it.
In their “world view,” limited as it is, they romantically see a better future if they annihilate everything that they consider as “status quo.”
They have no logical or legitimate plans for the future, except for some vague idea that things will be better if all current structures (physical, political and economic) are destroyed. Again, they have no post-destruction plans except perhaps for their own control of the world.
They are idiots.
Mark Bofill says:March 20, 2013
“Does anybody else wonder if McKibben and Hansen and so on are only in this so they can get activist chicks? Not saying they are, just wondering just sayin.”
“activist, clueless, mindless chicks” There, fixed it.
Maybe next time these young activists will try protesting while wearing blackface, just to mix it up a little in the insult department.
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We’re just laughing at the clowns. What’s wrong with that?
If that was your daughter in the picture how would you feel?
While we are on the subject of cultural understanding, remember that these are Australian chicks. In Australia the word “fucking” is so common it is practically used in polite conversation. We are talking about a nation that ran an advertising campaign to attract tourists using the slogan So where the bloody hell are you? . Americans tend to be seriously uptight when it comes to swearing. Don’t apply American cultural expectations to Australians in Australia.
@ur momisugly Beta Blocker, Please do not put any more sofa king bad ideas in to BCBill’s head as we are going into an election with the “Democratic ” party looking to re-place the current Liberal (capitalistic side of things) Party. The last time that happened we ended up having the worst economy ever. They taxed us to death (well ok ok almost I’m still around) and a lot of international companies pulled out to wait for a better “climate” and a really big dip happened 15-18 years or so ago. Now, although we suffered here as most countries have in the past 5 years, we are doing better than most. A NDP (New Democratic Party) government could bring the the economy to a halt. What BCBill seems to forget as mentioned before there are only 4 million men, women and children living here to keep things going and most of them are needed for just day to day life (schools, hospitals, shops, roads, etc, etc.).
I wonder how many would be available for added manufacturing with those resources? as you mentioned!
British Columbia Canada is a really really big place for just 4 million people!( sort of Aussie like) We need the royalties from said resources to keep our head above water but if we get enough we will expand the other “second” industries. We have seen that in our tourist and wine industries for instance.
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IF it was my daughter, I’d still love her but I’d be ashamed of her.
But my daughter has more sense.
Also an issue in the pacific northwest. From the radical Tyee: http://thetyee.ca/News/2013/03/08/Cross-Border-Coal-Opponents/
Bill McKibben… I’m going to borrow his tactic and depart from science for a moment and discuss his character.
A self-aggrandizing, political whore for the left who doesn’t have the self-respect to think for himself—but keeps putting bandaids on his rubeGoldberg kluge of a computer-predicted climate when it continues to fail, and continues to stridently decry anyone and anything which his political masters oppose, lending his scientific “expertise” to their cause. I’m sure that he thinks he’s really a nice guy, and believes he’s doing the right thing.
But he’s a whore for those who would put the rest of us in chains, using “global warming” as the reason that, reluctantly, they must. For our own good. Because they’re so much wiser about what’s best for us than we are.
Stephen Scheider—remember that name? was another of his ilk…if you read HIS work (he was originally a mechanical engineer by training…who said he was a “climatologist”? He started calling himself that before there was such a thing. If I call myself the worlds first left-handed fronambulator, does that translate to anything of value in the real world? And just what are the minimum requirements to call yourself such, I do wanna know—but I digress…), Stephen Schnieder was one of the most strident in warning of “the coming ice age” back in the ’70s. And in the late ’80s, switched to warming, and from what I’ve read of his work, not because he had any “road to Damascus” kind of conversion, but because warming, over ice age, was the new fad. Read his Wikipedia entry; it’ll sicken you how they so transparently try to make his lies for him. Even the quotes they use point up that he was nothing but an opportunistic hack who loved the spotlight…like all these doomcrying pondscum. What are Hansen’s creds? Supposedly that he’s the leading scientist on the climate of the planet Venus.
Not sure how that translates to Earth; Venus has no plate tectonics, an atmosphere completely different from Earth, no moon to moderate any precession in her obliquity, a slow rotation rate, no magnetic field to speak of (see rotation rate, thought to be the cause of that, but unproven)—in short, nothing in common with Earth except solar system. Oh, and James Hansen has never been there to verify any of his theories…I’m guessing he had one or two, though I’ve yet to run across one. Obviously an obscure part of his curriculum vitae, that it’s not better documented. We’ve had much fewer probes to Venus than we’ve had to Mars, and see how little we know of the Martian climate—so I have to ask: what was so revolutionary about Hansen’s work with Venus that makes him sooooo worth listening to about Earth? From where I sit, he’s an expert in nothing and thus a self-proclaimed expert in Earth climate…with an academic pedigree better than McKibben’s. So why listen to either of them?
Bah. They’re all poseurs, not scientists. And McKibben’s descent into vulgarity and politics should be the clinching argument that his opinions about science are worth nothing. True science is apolitical and impersonal.
But hey, this IS the group who believes in science by consensus, not scientific method.
Ideology tramps, complete with foul mouth.
I’m the mother of the girl who made and carried the sign and I’m proud of her. Yes we live in a coal economy and the issues around Terminal 4 in Newcastle Australia are complex. I won’t go into my own views here. But I’m glad my daughter and her friends are taking an interest in the world around them, forming views and taking action. They are 15 years old, in middle high school and I hope they have many years of concerned, engaged citizenship ahead of them. As for the language on the sign – it sure attracted attention to the issue, and it was straight from the heart. You go girls! Xxx mum.
Louise says:
March 24, 2013 at 2:33 pm
I’m the mother of the girl who made and carried the sign and I’m proud of her. ………………. As for the language on the sign – it sure attracted attention to the issue, and it was straight from the heart.
You should explain to her that profanity is a sign of a weak mind. Yes, it attracts attention, but not the right kind, as witnessed by this thread.
you people say if you knew these girls you’d be ashamed. Your ignorance and stupidity is hard to fathom, can two girls not express their opinions without causing worldwide controversy. this amount of coal consumption and destruction of nature cannot be brought down to anything but simply greed. NO other reason excuses their actions. These girls are speaking out about something they believe in something you all should believe in, preserving the precious nature we have, protecting our water and farmland and you say they are clearly not educated properly. They probably know more about the issue than you do. so keep your narrow-minded comments to yourself in the future please.
@Jerome Hudson & Louise – an idiot can spout profanity. It does not take intelligence, and usually is an indication of the lack of it. Children, upon learning profanity, often use it for the shock value. But they are shocking their friends – other children, not rational adults – who were also children once as well – and grew up.
As gacooke points out, no one is saying the children should be shot, arrested, tried or convicted. However, the comments do indicate a consensus that about the only thing those children are learning is how to be ignorant and remain immature.
They are garnering the exact opposite of what their mother apparently hoped them to achieve. If that warrants accolades, then they will never succeed in life as failure seems to be their goal.