From Tom Nelson: Keystone pipeline passes environmental review: It’s the [CO2-induced] end of the world as the Sierra Club knows it, and I feel fine
The State Department released a draft environmental impact assessment of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline Friday afternoon, suggesting the project would have little impact on climate change.
Live Blogging the Keystone XL Environmental Assessment Release | DeSmogBlog
Sierra Club Executive Director Michael Brune just released the following reaction in a press release just sent out:
“The Sierra Club is outraged by the State Department’s deeply flawed analysis today and what can only be interpreted as lip service to one of the greatest threats to our children’s future: climate disruption…”
From Junkscience:
Read the full Keystone EIS
It’s is driving the enviros crazy this afternoon.
A bad day for the Climate Parasites. But their quest for a free lunch will continue, it’s not over yet.
Correct.
Oh my god …. we are all going to die …. laughing
bill mckibben makes me wonder what would mr.lewandowsky write about his thoughts on “fossil fuel lobby” and “Big Oil”
http://350.org/en/about/blogs/some-tough-news-keystone-xl
Wait wait wait. Now did they consider the emissions of the caterpillar machines that will dig the trench. Environmental impact assessment and so on. Like they did with that oil project in Alaska where the emissions from a support ship were used as the scapegoat to stop the project.
We must not scratch the surface of the holy mother Earth. All human activity must happen above ground, lest The Old Ones , oh sorry, I wanted to say, lest the eternal harmony of natural balance is disturbed. Best, build everything on stilts. And touch the ground only when you absolutely can’t avoid it. Outlaw shovels. /sarc
John F. Hultquist says:
March 1, 2013 at 10:17 pm
““Lovey” would be Teresa, I guess. But apparently neither she nor any of the other Heinz Family members have been part of the company nor “owners” of it in any substantial** way for quite some time. She did get $500 million after her husband’s death in a plane crash in 1991. So the bottom line for John Kerry and Teresa from the sale to Berkshire Hathaway and 3G Capital will be zero.”
This made me look around a little, and I must say I am so not surprised:
Teresa Heinz Kerry is of course using her money to push public education for sustainability…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz_Kerry
and is chairperson of a climatism-pushing organisation…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Defense_Fund
(I think she is not stupid but uses climatism and sustainabilism as a means to funnel taxpayer money her way like Gore and everybody else does. Another snakeoil peddler like the rest of them)
Warren Buffet owns the railroads that move the oil. Warren Buffet owns Obama. XL won’t happen.
There is nothing controversial about the pipeline. It’s just a conduit that carries the black gold that oils the gears of tge economy.
Mailman
Perhaps the point here is that least part of the US government has not been hijacked by ecoloons – yet. Some people are still thinking in strategic and economic terms, not in fantasy Thermageddon ones.
In the US, you have fracking which is going to transform the US economy. In Europe, the ecoloons have hijacked common sense about fracking and it has been banned by several countries. However, in Europe the ecoloon movement’s biggest supporter is Russia’s Gazprom – not surprising that they they do not want an energy independent Europe.
As for the Sierra Club and other ecoloon organisations, they regularly need to update their causes. Replacing a tired old cause with a fresh new one is how you keep the funds rolling in to support those big salaries and benefits for the guys at the top.
Mailman says:
March 2, 2013 at 1:13 am
“There is nothing controversial about the pipeline. It’s just a conduit that carries the black gold that oils the gears of tge economy.”
That *IS* the controversy – when you can profit from blocking (competing) development you might just do it. The Solar Industry in Germany has made fortunes this way – and spent most of their profits for further lobbying in Berlin and Brussels, NOT on product development. They knew where the source of their income was, hint, it’s not the sun.
Just amass a few million followers through McKibben and other bought-and-paid-for muppets, tell them you got a much nicer-to-Gaia technology and the only drawback is it’s WAAAYYY more expensive but we can pay for it with money that we print and off you go.
Oh make sure you get the kids all gung-ho about SUSTAINABILITY so they willingly follow you. see above link about Teresa Heinz Kerry. How nice it all fits together. There is an old tale of a town about 40 km west of me:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_piper
Wamron on March 1, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Why should we suffer for HIS childrens future?
Why should I endure the misery of a frigid winter unable to pay for heating because of a 60% increase in electricity charges to supposedly benefit HIS children?”
This is a great point and one I’ve thought of in other contexts as I don’t have children. There’s a constant “do it for the children” excuse to everything. This is why we need gun control, you can’t have “bad words” on TV, I shouldn’t drive my SUV to save the planet, I pay tons of real estate taxes to educate them, etc.
I agree with you: why should I suffer now for no need to prevent your children from potentially suffering?
Let’s say we still lived in caves. There is a nice warm pile of bear skins. We are all freezing to death. We want to use the bear skins but we don’t because if we use them up then out children won’t have them to keep warm. But what about the freezing children NOW?
Steve (Paris) on March 2, 2013 at 12:56 am
Warren Buffet owns the railroads that move the oil. Warren Buffet owns Obama. XL won’t happen.”
But Warren Buffet cries and sobs that he and other wealthy don’t pay enough taxes.
A.D. Everard on March 1, 2013 at 6:37 pm
So let’s see… the ecos don’t want to clean up an oil spill because it’s natural? Huh? Now if mankind had caused it, it would be “killing the Earth and our future children” and no doubt would have to be cleaned up immediately.”
Since we all know oil comes from the ground and is perfectly natural and organic, I’ve dug a pit in my back yard, filled it with sand, and that’s where I dump all my SUV oil changes. In a few years some geologists will find it and since I own the mineral rights on my property, should profit nicely /tic. (tongue in cheek)
Who are the Sierra Club?
Just a minority bunch of rich bums who think they own the right to live more than those less well off.
Tail wagging the Dog!
And it will displace Chavez’s oil.
They’ll have to build a corresponding pipeline to carry all the Warmist’s venom and bile.
A deeply unpleasant bunch of haters…
Global warming allows idiots, like McKibben, to be heard beyond his asylum walls.
It really is “worse than we thought”
I called out Hansen in a TV interview ten days ago for his unbelievably unscientific effort to manipulate: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2180616375001/will-tar-sand-oil-in-the-keystone-pipeline-ruin-the-planet/
Gee, who would have thought the Unions would win in a tug of war with the Greenies. The Golden Rule strikes again.
Unions give mega-bucks to the Party while Greens are just vast pits that money is tossed into with the millionaires and soon to become billionaire Al Gore sweeps it up into their bank accounts. In the end, they (Obama) used the stretch-it-out strategy to get it past the elections.
Not completely on topic, but USA Today had a real barn-burner on Climate Change today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/28/climate-change-remaking-america/1917169/
Oh deary me!
Enbridge to expand mainline between Hardisty and US border:
http://beaconnews.ca/blog/2013/01/enbridge-to-expand-mainline-between-hardisty-and-us-border/
“Enbridge announced Friday that further expansion of the Canadian mainline system between Hardisty, Alberta and the U.S. border is in the works.
The expansion will add an additional 230,000 barrels per day of capacity at an estimated cost of approximately $0.4 billion and involves increased pumping horsepower, with no line pipe construction.”
I recall (I think) reading a story many months ago that said that since Enbridge already had a border crossing right of way, that they could if they decided to, add extra pipelines on the right of way with minimal US involvement. WIsh I would have kept a copy of that storey
No CO2 emissions exporting the oil by tanker.
The USA will not need to import so much oil, so another reduction in oil tanker emissions.
Due to fewer oil tankers coming to North America, a reduction in the amount of oil that could be spilt in any disaster.
Stupid warmers. The US is already crisscrossed by pipelines.
Luther Wu says:
March 1, 2013 at 7:23 pm
H.R. (back from fishing in FLA… one fish trashed my 80# line. That was a rush!) says:
March 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm
WTF says:
March 1, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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Fish story w/out pics- riiight.
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I saved the shredded and stretched out line. Never fish without a steel leader if there is a chance a shark will pick up your bait, eh?. It took about 10 seconds of thrashing after the shark realized it was hooked to shred the mono I was using. 5-6 foot black tips are common where I was fishing but I never thought one would be interested in a lousy 6″-long pinfish as bait. It was the freight train pull for the first 10-15 seconds that was a rush. Total fight time; under 30 seconds.
Alas, I really hate to have to do the old quote, “Tell a lie, often enough and loud enough…eventually most people will believe it is true..” (Actually MIS-attributed to the Nazi source,
see http://thinklings.org/posts/goebbels-quote-does-it-really-mean-that) There are all sorts of heavy crude which are very similar to the tar sands. For people with Phd’s to spout this stuff means their Phd’s should be remove. They are “weak minds”, do not deserve attention. Let’s review several points! DIRTY? What the HECK does that mean? DO they think that the completely CLOSED LOOP processing systems have any more or less emissions with “tar sands” than any other feed? Rubbish, the results are the same…no difference.
At the “Pine Bend Refinery” (website http://www.fhr.com/refining/minnesota.aspx ) the tar sands are made into petroleum products which provide a majority of the state’s gasoline. That gasoline is a pure as ANY gasoline anywhere in the country and burns to CO2 and Water in our modern, fuel iinjected cars.
Meanwhile, something like 5 tankcars of VALUABLE molten sulfur are shipped out of Pine Bend, every day. A process developed by the Father of the “evil” Koch Brothers does that. As to the “dirty”? Would that refer to the distillation “bottoms”, otherwise known as “road tar”, which EVERY refinery makes? And it gets used for what? TO MAKE ROADS! And it is NOT considered a hazard. (From dust you came and unto dust you shall return.)
This concept that there is anything particularily “enviromentally damaging” about the tar sands and the products made from them is a LIE.
Max
(Basic undergraduate education in ChemE., i.e. B.S., which is a lot less B.S. than in most climate Phds)