
Harvard research suggests real-world generating capacity of wind farms at large scales has been overestimated
Cambridge, Mass. – February 25, 2013 – “People have often thought there’s no upper bound for wind power—that it’s one of the most scalable power sources,” says Harvard applied physicist David Keith. After all, gusts and breezes don’t seem likely to “run out” on a global scale in the way oil wells might run dry.
Yet the latest research in mesoscale atmospheric modeling, published today in the journal Environmental Research Letters, suggests that the generating capacity of large-scale wind farms has been overestimated.
Each wind turbine creates behind it a “wind shadow” in which the air has been slowed down by drag on the turbine’s blades. The ideal wind farm strikes a balance, packing as many turbines onto the land as possible, while also spacing them enough to reduce the impact of these wind shadows. But as wind farms grow larger, they start to interact, and the regional-scale wind patterns matter more.
Keith’s research has shown that the generating capacity of very large wind power installations (larger than 100 square kilometers) may peak at between 0.5 and 1 watts per square meter. Previous estimates, which ignored the turbines’ slowing effect on the wind, had put that figure at between 2 and 7 watts per square meter.
In short, we may not have access to as much wind power as scientists thought.
An internationally renowned expert on climate science and technology policy, Keith holds appointments as Gordon McKay Professor of Applied Physics at the Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS) and as Professor of Public Policy at Harvard Kennedy School. Coauthor Amanda S. Adams was formerly a postdoctoral fellow with Keith and is now assistant professor of geography and Earth sciences at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte.
“One of the inherent challenges of wind energy is that as soon as you start to develop wind farms and harvest the resource, you change the resource, making it difficult to assess what’s really available,” says Adams.
But having a truly accurate estimate matters, of course, in the pursuit of carbon-neutral energy sources. Solar, wind, and hydro power, for example, could all play roles in fulfilling energy needs that are currently met by coal or oil.
“If wind power’s going to make a contribution to global energy requirements that’s serious, 10 or 20 percent or more, then it really has to contribute on the scale of terawatts in the next half-century or less,” says Keith.
If we were to cover the entire Earth with wind farms, he notes, “the system could potentially generate enormous amounts of power, well in excess of 100 terawatts, but at that point my guess, based on our climate modeling, is that the effect of that on global winds, and therefore on climate, would be severe—perhaps bigger than the impact of doubling CO2.”
“Our findings don’t mean that we shouldn’t pursue wind power—wind is much better for the environment than conventional coal—but these geophysical limits may be meaningful if we really want to scale wind power up to supply a third, let’s say, of our primary energy,” Keith adds.
And the climatic effect of turbine drag is not the only constraint; geography and economics matter too.
“It’s clear the theoretical upper limit to wind power is huge, if you don’t care about the impacts of covering the whole world with wind turbines,” says Keith. “What’s not clear—and this is a topic for future research—is what the practical limit to wind power would be if you consider all of the real-world constraints. You’d have to assume that wind turbines need to be located relatively close to where people actually live and where there’s a fairly constant wind supply, and that they have to deal with environmental constraints. You can’t just put them everywhere.”
“The real punch line,” he adds, “is that if you can’t get much more than half a watt out, and you accept that you can’t put them everywhere, then you may start to reach a limit that matters.”
In order to stabilize the Earth’s climate, Keith estimates, the world will need to identify sources for several tens of terawatts of carbon-free power within a human lifetime. In the meantime, policymakers must also decide how to allocate resources to develop new technologies to harness that energy.
In doing so, Keith says, “It’s worth asking about the scalability of each potential energy source—whether it can supply, say, 3 terawatts, which would be 10 percent of our global energy need, or whether it’s more like 0.3 terawatts and 1 percent.”
“Wind power is in a middle ground,” he says. “It is still one of the most scalable renewables, but our research suggests that we will need to pay attention to its limits and climatic impacts if we try to scale it beyond a few terawatts.”
The research was funded by the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada.
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When exactly was this previous period of climate stability, which we seek to restore?
The obvious solution is to put the wind farms along the freeways so the fast moving cars can turn the turbines. Require everyone to spend several hours per day on the freeways to help feed the grid. Then higher gas taxes can be levied to offset the massive carbon emissions of the cars used to feed the grid. Profit!!
This might be a repeat, but I did the math as well.
If Texans wanted wind power for all their needs, it would likely require 50% of the land of Texas be allocated for wind farms.
So, with the 1W per m², that is 1MW per km². According to ERCOT, record peek demand is 67,084MW.
Okay, that is 67,084 km² (42,000mile²), or a little under 10% of Texas’ 696,200 km² (268,800mile²). But that 10% is only if the wind mills always ran at 100%, if we assume a utility factor of less than 20%, we would actually need 5 times more, or 50% of the land. So, if my calculations are correct, to meet the summer demand, you would need over 210,000 SQUARE MILES of wind farm.
And even that number is likely wildly conservative, considering that 1W is optimum, add in the land that would not support wind farms, and there would be a rush for every square mile of suitable land for wind farms.
So, how environmentally friendly is that? How would we adjust to so much of the land being used for wind farms??
Wait…There are people who had to attend Harvard to know this?
Why does it take scientists all this time to come to the same conclusions that engineers told them a quarter of a century ago? Don’t they ever try to equate their theoretical models to the real world?
Say it isn’t so! Special interest groups who received billions in federal and state subsidies lied to us about the effectiveness of wind power. Who could have seen that coming?
At least the citizens of Falmouth Massachusetts in the USA have seen the light.
“So the town government just voted unanimously to stop Wind 1, take-down Wind 2, and cancel Wind 3. The cost of taking down 1 and 2 will be approximately $5M per windmill. No estimate yet on canceling the contract to put-up Wind 3.”
While reading about this came across some interesting data. It appears that the gear boxes on these machines seem to last only 3 to 5 years. Replacement including labor and crane rental is about $300K.
They need more real world constraints, including:
* A minimum distance between urban areas and wind farms to prevent visual impact. Say 20 miles.
* None in wilderness areas or parks and with the same minimum distance.
* A maximum distance from a major long line, say 50 miles. Given the siting issues it is unlikely that most of the new capacity will be from upgrades rather than new lines.
Now how much capacity can they get from wind?
An obvious question: As others have pointed out, windmills alter the prevailing winds and thus inexorably, the climate. If all the CO2 generators were replaced with wind, would the anthropogenic climate change be less?
In addition, today’s wind farms would have to be built for the (horribly mutated, extreme weather producing, AGW-driven /sarc) climate of today. Successful “restoration” of the climate would shift the wind patterns away from the wind farms and decrease their “climate restoring” benefits, creating a climate oscillation that did not exist before. Cool. More studies to do.
In short, the insanity of developing an energy source that is critically dependent on the very climate that we are afraid is changing but don’t quite know why or how is beyond my comprehension. We will have in fact created a clever way of AMPLIFYING our climate vulnerability.
@ur momisugly michaeljmcfadden
LOL! You, Sir, are a dangerous man. Remind me to never cross wits with you! 🙂
Chris4692 says:
February 25, 2013 at 5:34 pm
inter alia:
Another issue is the implication that somehow, if a business (or person) so arranges its affairs in order to get tax breaks, somehow it is the business that is evil. The business is just arranging to do the things that the Congress was encouraging it to do when Congress passed the tax law.
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Quite.
Exactly. Precisely. [and synonyms]
Any chance of bringing this to the attention of one Cameron [described as a Prime Minister], let alone a Boy George [described as a Chancellor of the Exchequer], here in the UK.
I pay taxes according to your rules.
If you want me to stand on my right foot, and recite Genesis chapter 1 [or anything else] to halve my tax bill – your rules, but I’ll do it.
Auto
From “Paint Your Wagon”, 1969.
Way out west, they got a name
For rain and wind and fire
The rain is Tess, the fire’s Joe and
They call the wind Mariah……….
Now before I knew Mariah’s name
And heard her wail and whining
I had a girl and she had me
And the sun was always shining
O, but then one day I left my girl
I left her far behind me
And now I’m lost, I’m oh so lost
Not even God can find me
This study errs in its assessment of potential wind energy resources by ignoring real-world data and experience and instead relying on crude theoretical modeling techniques. In reality, wind project developers and investors work closely with atmospheric scientists and other experts to make sure that their projects will produce as much as expected, and real-world data from large-scale wind installations in the US and Europe confirms that they do. Regardless of who is correct, the inescapable fact is that America’s developable wind energy resources are many times greater than our country’s energy needs.
For more, see:
http://www.awea.org/blog/index.cfm?customel_dataPageID_1699=21714
Michael Goggin,
American Wind Energy Association
It’s good to see a response from an official voice on the other side here, but I was puzzled by the dichotomy between so much of what’s been said, and this ending statement:
” the inescapable fact is that America’s developable wind energy resources are many times greater than our country’s energy needs.”
Mr. Goggin, I think you’re probably correct, BUT, your statement has a flaw in it. By merely speaking of “America’s developable wind energy resources” you’re ignoring the question of America’s economically and practically realistically “developable wind energy resources.” The two concepts are very different. For example, I could make a statement about the size of the “developable human energy resources” involving power generation by people peddling stationary generator bicycles. But if I fail to mention that my estimated size of delivery depends upon every man, woman, and child peddling furiously for 16 hours a day then I’m misleading people.
If you want to advance your argument in this forum I think you’ll have to go into a bit more detail about what “developable” means and how much it would cost, comparative to other approaches, to “develop” and maintain the resources to that extent.
It would also be interesting to hear your thoughts about the extended discussion here concerning the environmental impact of “removing” wind energy through extensive wind farming. Do you feel that’s a valid concern? If not, can you counter the thoughts that have been framed here about it as a potential problem?
– MJM
MJM, for the supply curve of economically developable wind, see figures A-2 and A-3 here. Wind energy costs have fallen significantly since this report was released in 2008, and low-wind speed turbines have opened up new areas for wind development, so these estimates of economically viable resource potential are likely conservative.
Regarding the question about the impacts of capturing wind energy, the analysis and real-world experience I linked to above indicates that this is not a concern. Even with massive deployments of wind energy many times greater than have been deployed to date, the impact on atmospheric flows is likely to be comparable to other human activities like agriculture, forestry, etc.
Sorry, forgot link:
http://20percentwind.org/report/Appendix_A_20PercentWindScenarioImpacts.pdf
Thanks for the quick response! Will check it out!
– MJM
They should have asked Don Quijote first…
In the world of climate science/policy, they have lots of company.
“Regardless of who is correct, the inescapable fact is that America’s developable wind energy resources are many times greater than our country’s energy needs.”
But without storage to make the energy dispatchable all that energy will not do much good due to the need for hot standby to make up for dips in output.
And of course storage will add to the cost making wind uneconomical for a while (probably decades) longer.
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I do a more detailed view of the paper here:
http://www.ecnmag.com/blogs/2013/03/drag-windpower
My magazine (ECN) will be doing an e-mail alert Monday afternoon on the article – if all goes according to plan. Expect some traffic then as the WUWT link is at the top of the article.
Michael Goggin, AWEA,
If you check back into your archives I think you will find a favorable mention of a blog post I did some years back. The mention could have been something I left in the comments. Or it might have been more significant. I am not as optimistic about wind as I once was.
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2004/09/wind-in-rockford.html
The article was originally published in the Rock River Times.
A more complete listing:
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/search?q=wind
Given the potential depletion of high technology materials, (check out the rapidly rising price of copper) I think it is unreasonable to expect, as a given, that natural energy from the sun will replace the energy bounty of carbon combustion, once that is exhausted in the next several generations. I am reminded of the old depression era song, “There will be Pie in the Sky, bye and bye.”
As far as I know, there is no from of energy generation *now in use* that can step in and replace low-cost carbon fuels, once they are exhausted. Our existing nuclear technology, based on solid fuel rods that must be discarded, due to the build up of waste products, after burning only about one percent of their fuel, does not seem to be a safe or indefinitely sustainable alternative primary energy source.
The prospect of progressively declining national prosperity as our primary energy sources dry up makes, I think, our policy of exponentially increasing national debt all the more dangerous, as we may no longer expect to exponentially increase our energy-flow (power) dependent national wealth.