Slow Drift in Thermoregulated Emergent Systems

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

In my last post, “Emergent Climate Phenomena“, I gave a different paradigm for the climate. The current paradigm is that climate is a system in which temperature slavishly follows the changes in inputs. Under my paradigm, on the other hand, natural thermoregulatory systems constrain the temperature to vary within a narrow range. In the last century, for example, the temperature has varied only about ± 0.3°C, which is a temperature variation of only about a tenth of one percent. I hold that this astonishing stability, in a system whose temperature is controlled by something as fickle and variable as clouds and wind, is clear evidence that there is a strong thermostatic mechanism, or more accurately a host of interlocking thermostatic mechanisms, controlling the temperature.

emergent school of fishFigure 1. The behavior of flocks of birds and schools of fish are emergent phenomena.

However, this brings up a new question—although the change in temperature is quite small, with changes of only a few tenths of a percent per century, less than a degree, sometimes the global average temperature has been rising, and sometimes falling.

So what are some of the things that might be causing these slow, century or millennia long drifts in temperature? Is it changes in the sun? I think that the explanation lies elsewhere than the sun, and here’s why.

The temperature control system I describe above, based on the timing and duration of the onset and existence of emergent temperature phenomena, is temperature based. It is not based on the amount of forcing (downwelling solar and greenhouse radiation).

By that I mean that the control system starts to kick in when the local temperature rises above the critical level for cloud emergence. As a result, by and large the global average temperature of the planet is relatively indifferent to variations in the level of the forcing, whether from the sun, from CO2, from volcanoes, or any other reason. That’s why meteors and volcanoes have come and gone and the temperature just goes on. Remember that at the current temperature, the system variably rejects about a quarter of the available incoming solar energy through reflections off of clouds. We could be a whole lot hotter than we are now, and we’re not …

This means that the system is actively regulating the amount of incoming solar energy to maintain the temperature within bounds. It doesn’t disturb the control system that the solar forcing is constantly varying from a host of factors, from dust and volcanoes to 11 and 22 year solar cycles. The thermoregulation system is not based on how much energy there is available from the sun or from CO2. The resulting temperature is not based on the available forcing, we know there’s more than enough forcing available to fry us. It is set instead by the unchanging physics of wind and wave and pressure and most of all temperature that regulates when clouds form … so when the sun goes up a bit, the clouds go up a bit, and balance is maintained.

And this, in turn, is my explanation of why it is so difficult to find any strong, clear solar signal in the temperature records. Oh, you can find hints, and bits, a weak correlation to this or that, but overall those sun-climate correlations, which under the current paradigm should show visible effects, are very hard to find. I hold that this shows that in general, global average temperature is not a function of the forcing. The sun waxes and wanes, the volcanoes go off for centuries, meteors hit the earth … and the clouds simply adjust to return us to the same thermal level. And this weak dependence of output on input is exactly what we would expect in any significantly complex system.

So if the sun is not guilty of causing the slow drift in global average surface temperature over the centuries, what other possible defendants might we haul before the bar?

Well, the obvious suspects would include anything that affects the timing and duration of the onset and existence of clouds, or their albedo (color). Unfortunately, cloud formation is a complex and poorly understood process. Water droplets in clouds form around a “nucleus”, some kind of particle. This can be sea salt, dust, organic materials, aerosols, a variety of types and species of microorganisms, black carbon, there are a host of known participants with no clear evidence on how or why they vary, or what effects they have when they do vary.  Here’s a quote from the abstract of a 2013 scientific paper, emphasis mine:

The composition and prevalence of microorganisms in the middle-to-upper troposphere (8–15 km altitude) and their role in aerosol-cloud-precipitation interactions represent important, unresolved questions for biological and atmospheric science. In particular, airborne microorganisms above the oceans remain essentially uncharacterized, as most work to date is restricted to samples taken near the Earth’s surface. SOURCE

Here’s another example:

Cumulus clouds result from the ascent of moist air parcels. An unresolved issue in cloud physics is why observed cumulus cloud droplet spectra even in the core of cumulus clouds are broader than the spectra predicted by cloud droplet nucleation and condensational growth in adiabatically ascending parcels (Pruppacher and Klett, 1997). SOURCE

Cumulus clouds are one of the most common types on earth and we don’t even understand cloud nucleation there. The problem is that the size and composition of atmospheric aerosols, and the complex interaction between those aerosols and the various organic and inorganic atmospheric chemicals, ions, free radicals, and natural and man-made particles, plus variations in the type and amount of microbial populations of the atmosphere, plus the ability of one chemical to adsorb onto and totally change the surface properties of another substance, all have the potential to affect both the timing and the duration of both cloud formation and precipitation, along with cloud optical properties. As such, they would have to be strong contenders for any century-scale (and perhaps shorter-scale) drifts in temperature.

Another possible cause for the slow drift might be the proposed cosmic ray connection, sun’s magnetic field –> cosmic ray variations –> changes in cloud nucleation rate. I see no theoretical reason it couldn’t work under existing laws of physics, I made a “cloud chamber” as a kid to see radioactivity come off of a watch. However, one difficulty with this cosmic ray connection is that the records have been combed pretty extensively for sun/climate links, and we haven’t found any strong correlations between the sun and climate. We see weak correlations, but nothing stands out. Doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but it may be indicative of their possible strength … or as always, indicative of our lack of knowledge …

Another cause might be the effect on thunderstorms of gradual changes in the earth’s electromagnetic fields. Thunderstorms have a huge (think lightning bolts) and extremely poorly understood electromagnetic complement. They serve an incredibly complex electromagnetic circuit that  couples the atmosphere and the surface. It ties them together electromagnetically from the “sprites”  that form when thunderstorms push high above the surrounding tropopause, and from there in various ways through dimly glimpsed channels the electromagnetic current runs down to and up from the ground. Thunderstorms also are independent natural electrical Van de Graaf machines, stripping electrons in one part of the thunderstorm, transporting them miles away, and reuniting them in a thunderous electrical arc. We have no idea what things like the gradual changes in the location of the Magnetic Poles and alterations in the magnetosphere or variations in the solar wind might do to the timing and duration of thunderstorms, so we have to include slow alterations in the global magnetic and electrical fields in the list of possibilities, perhaps only because we understand so little about them.

The next possibility for slow changes involves the idea of bifurcation points. Let me take the alteration between the two states of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation as an example. In each of the states of the PDO, we have a quasi-stable (for decades) configuration of ocean currents. At some point in time, for unclear reasons, that configuration of ocean currents changes, and is replaced by an entirely different quasi-stable (for decades) state. In other words, somewhere in there is a bifurcation point in the annual ebb and flow of the currents, and at some point in time, the currents take the path not recently travelled and as a result, the whole North Pacific shifts to the other state.

Now, even in theory one of these two state has to be more efficient than the other in the great work of the heat engine we call the climate. That great work is moving energy from the equator to the poles. And in fact there is a distinct difference, one of the two states is called the “warm” state and the other is called the “cool” state.

Intuitively, it would seem that IF for whatever reason the Pacific Decadal Oscillation stayed permanently in one state or the other, that the world would end up either warmer overall or cooler overall. Let me explain why I don’t think the PDO or the El Nino/La Nina or the North Atlantic Oscillations are responsible for slow drifts in the regulated temperature.

The reason is that just like the thunderstorms, all of those are emergent phenomena of the system. Take the PDO as an example. Looking at the Pacific Ocean, you’d never say “I bet the North Pacific stays warm for decade after decade, and then there’s a great shift, all of the sea life changes, the winds change, the very currents change, and then it will be cold for decade after decade”. No way you’d guess that, it’s emergent.

And because they are emergent systems, I hold that they too are a part of the interconnected thermal regulation system, which in my view includes short term emergent systems (daily thunderstorms), longer term (multi monthly Madden Julian oscillations), longer term (clouds cooling in summer and warming in winter), longer term (3-5 years El Nino/La Nina), and longer term (multidecadal PDO, AMO) emergent systems of all types all working to maintain a constant temperature, with many more uncounted.

And as a result, I would hold that none of those emergent systems would be a cause of slow drift. To the contrary, I would expect that they would work the other way, to counteract slow drift and prevent overheating.

Moving on, here’s an off-the-wall possibility for human induced change—oil on the global oceans. It only takes the thinnest, almost monomolecular layer of oil on water to change the surface tension, and we’ve added lots of it. This reduces evaporation in two ways. It reduces evaporation directly by reducing the amount of water in contact with the air.

The second way is by preventing the formation of breaking waves, spray, and spume (sea foam). Spray of any kind greatly increases the water surface available for evaporation, depending on windspeed. Remember that evaporation due to wind speed is the way that the thunderstorm is able to sustain itself. So when the amount of area evaporating is decreased by ten or twenty percent due to lack of spray, that will commensurately decrease the evaporation, and thus affect the timing of the onset and the duration of thunderstorms.

OK, you gotta love this. I thought “time for more research” after writing the last paragraph, and I find this:

Sailors who traditionally dumped barrels of oil into the sea to calm stormy waters may have been on to something, a new study suggests. The old practice reduces wind speeds in tropical hurricanes by damping ocean spray, according to a new mathematical “sandwich model”.

As hurricane winds kick up ocean waves, large water droplets become suspended in the air. This cloud of spray can be treated mathematically as a third fluid sandwiched between the air and sea. “Our calculations show that drops in the spray decrease turbulence and reduce friction, allowing for far greater wind speeds – sometimes eight times as much,” explains researcher Alexandre Chorin at the University of California at Berkeley, US.

He believes the findings shed light on an age-old sea ritual. “Ancient mariners poured oil on troubled waters – hence the expression – but it was never very clear what this accomplished,” says Chorin. Since oil inhibits the formation of drops, Chorin thinks the strategy would have increased the drag in the air and successfully decreased the intensity of the squalls.

SOURCE

Hmmm … good scientists, not such good sailors. As scientists, I’d say they only have part of the answer. They should also run a calculation on the increase of the evaporative area due to the spray, and then consider that the hurricane runs on evaporation. That’s why they die out over the land, no moisture. Cut down the spray, put oil on the water, cut down the evaporation, cut down the power of the storms. And just like you get sweatier and hotter if a muggy day prevents evaporation, the same is true of the ocean. If you cut down evaporation, it will get warmer.

Of course, the counter-argument to the oil-on-the-water cuts evaporation and warms the ocean hypothesis was World War II. It put more oil into all of the oceans of the world than at any time before or since, and during the war in general the world was quite cold … dang fact, they always get in the way.

Having said that, as a blue-water man I can assure you that the authors of that claim are not sailors. Sailors don’t dump oil in the water to lower the wind speed, that’s a landlubber fantasy. They do it because it prevents waves from breaking and drops and spray from forming, so it can help in rough conditions. It doesn’t take much, you’d be surprise at the effect it has. You soak a rag in motor oil and tow it a ways behind the boat when you are drifting downwind. If the Coast Guard catches you, you’ll get a ticket for causing a sheen on the water and rightly so, but if it saves your life once, it’s probably worth it. Heck, when you’re caught in a big offshore blow, if it just has a placebo effect and reduces your personal pucker factor, its probably worth it … but I digress.

One thing is clear, however. The climate has been on a slow drift up and down and up and down, warm in Roman times, cold in the Dark Ages, warm in the Middle Ages, cold in the Little Ice Age, warm now … so while humans may indeed play some part the post-1940’s drift (down, then up, now level), it’s likely not a big part or we would have seen it by now … and in any case if we did have an effect, we still don’t know how.

I want to close by noting the power of the paradigm. If the paradigm is that greenhouse gases are the likely reason for slow climate drift because you assert (curiously and incorrectly) that temperature slavishly follows forcing, then you will look for variations in all the things that affect those GHGs.

But once the paradigm shifts to describing the climate as composed of interlocking active thermoregulatory mechanisms, we find ourselves with a range of entirely different and credible candidates for slow drift that are untouched and uninvestigated. It may be something above, or something I haven’t even considered, the change in plankton affecting the clouds or something.

This is why the claim that we have identified the “major forcings” as being say CO2 and methane and such ring hollow. Those are only the major players within the current paradigm. The problem is, that paradigm cannot explain a system so tightly thermoregulated that over the last century, the global average surface temperature only varied by ± one tenth of a percent … engineers, please correct me if I’m wrong, but given volcanoes and aerosols and the like that is a record that any control systems engineer would be proud of, and it is done with things as ephemeral as clouds. To me, that fact alone proves that the earth has a thermostat, and a dang precise one for that matter. A truly wondrous and marvel-filled planet indeed.

In friendship and exploration of the aforesaid marvels,

w.

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Greg Goodman
February 10, 2013 2:06 am

I just had another look at the plot I did to look at maritime air temperature.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/hwj19d.jpg
One thing I totally missed by focusing on Willis’ ideas about oil on water during the WWII period was that this record basically shows the N. Atl is NO warmer at all than it was 130 years ago !
This data was selected for extra-tropical North Atlantic:
80W-15W 20N-55N

Greg Goodman
February 10, 2013 2:50 am

Hey Willis , how about a new game for you. After your spot the volacano idea, let’s play spot the oil spill: the following is rate of change of SST in a zone that suffered a major leak. Can anyone spot when it happened using Willis’ idea that oil prevents evaporative heat loss?
http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh?ctlfile=monoiv2.ctl&ptype=ts&var=dt_ssta&level=1&month=nov&year=2000&fmonth=jan&fyear=2013&lat0=12&lat1=30&lon0=-90&lon1=-75&plotsize=800×600&dir=

Greg Goodman
February 10, 2013 2:51 am
Geoff Sherrington
February 10, 2013 3:42 am

Gail Combs says: (Repeating 9-year cycles in climate).
Here are 4 graphs. 2 are from the BOM HQ in Melbourne (with suspected UHI) and two are from Observatory Hill in Sydney (with suspected UHI). Both have long records. There was some discussion about summer heat waves, but they were not precisely defined, the difficulty being in how far above average the temperature had to go in order to be called a heat wave. The plots are of Tmax and they end at Dec 2012.
I created a working definition of a heat wave as a period of 5 days (6 consecutive daily Tmax readings from start to finish). Then I simply plotted the 15 or so hottest 5-day averages. Yep, that way you get quite a regularity with a separation of 9 years Unfortunately, for analytical purposes, I don’t think it means much. I could have chosen twice the number of stations and halved the cycle length. It is interesting, though, that the trend in 5-day temperatures is down over time, despite recent UHI potential..
http://www.geoffstuff.com/Heat%20Waves%20by%204.jpg

phlogiston
February 10, 2013 5:17 am

Did WW2 ship sinking contribute significant surface oil to affect surface exchange and sea temperatures? I think not.
Diatoms contain an oil droplet for bouyancy. In the aftermath of spring diatom blooms, natural oil slicks or sheens occur naturally at the sea surface from the diatom bloom die-off.
This natural phenomenon will dwarf the sinking of a few metal ships containing oil in a small part of the north Atlantic for 2-3 years.
So the WW2 U-boat and ocean cooling idea is interesting but unfortunately a FAIL.

Retired Engineer John
February 10, 2013 6:57 am

Gail Combs Feb 9, 2013 at 4:40 am
“Remember Ozone and O2 react with incoming UV and EUV the high energy wavelengths from the sun”- –
I see you have a knowledge of the Sun’ reactions with the upper atmosphere. Have you had a chance to look the 6 days of Jan 10 to Jan 15 when the Sun went suddenly from a low state to a short very active state. The Sun had 53 C class flares and 4 M class flares in those 6 days. The output was almost an impulse function and it may be possible to track the resultant ionization in the Earth’s atmosphere. This is particularly interesting when you look at the Jan temperature readings taken by the satellites. Also when you look at the distribution of temperatures. Is it possible for upper atmosphere ionization to spread across the globe and penetrate the lower atmosphere and provide nuclei for cloud formation?

markx
February 10, 2013 8:35 am

phlogiston says: February 10, 2013 at 5:17 am
“..Did WW2 ship sinking contribute significant surface oil to affect surface exchange and sea temperatures? I think not…”
Fair enough, I imagine it must have been the first thought on everybody’s mind upon seeing “the wartime SST glitch” and has probably been looked at pretty hard.

scott
February 10, 2013 8:40 am

People do not understand thermostatically controlled systems … as proof they don’t even understand their own bodies temperature control system. Most people believe that if you drink cold water you will burn extra calories and lose weight, it just makes perfect sense, in fact there are calculations out there “proving” this and and various weight loss programs to go with this theory. But what seems to make perfect sense is dead wrong. What people don’t understand that their bodies are constantly rejecting heat, just like the Earth, and if you drink a slug of cold water your body will just throw heat into that heat sink slug and reject less elsewhere and pretty much maintain 98.6F. So no extra calories burnt and no weight loss. The only thing lost is money spent on the cold drink weight loss program. Same thing goes for drinking hot water, your body takes in some heat from that drink but will just reject more heat elsewhere, maintain 98.6F, and no weight gain. So as CO2 or any other forcing is like a warm drink, it makes perfect sense to most that the Earths temperature has to rise, but that is dead wrong, that extra heat is just rejected elsewhere, with little or no temperature gain on Earth.

Greg Goodman
February 10, 2013 8:46 am

phlogiston says:
February 10, 2013 at 5:17 am This natural phenomenon will dwarf the sinking of a few metal ships containing oil in a small part of the north Atlantic for 2-3 years. So the WW2 U-boat and ocean cooling idea is interesting but unfortunately a FAIL.
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It will “dwarf” because it’s “natural”? Did you bother to read paper you linked to? They did not establish it was diatoms, they assumed it. They did not even establish it was chemically an oil nor whether it was living organic or fossil in origin. (Probably also largely diatoms ironically)
Despite this lack of rigour one of the three conclusions at the top of the paper was this:
2. Prominent slicks are confined largely to near shore areas where organic production is high.
So your comment is pretty much a FAIL, if you like to talk like that.
“sinking of a few metal ships” , A few ? THOUSANDS actually , with their crews. Among the ships sunk a prise kill would have been an oil tanker, since cutting of the essential supply of fuel to the allied war effort was one of the main aims of the U-boat campaign.
I agree that whether the amount of oil spilt would be enough to produce an effect needs backing up. But in view of how far just one drop of oil can spread on the surface of water, a ship load will go a long way. Also if you look at the kill zone of the german U_boats, off the european and africain coasts, persistent ocean circulation would tend to bring any spillage down into and across the tropical North Atlantic where hurricanes are born and the bulk of solar energy enters the system.
The potential for a link to SST does not seem so far fetched. As I also provided graphical evidence of, there was a very significant and anomalous drop ACE at that time which would also support Willis’ hypothesis.

February 10, 2013 9:44 am

Willis said:
“This means that the system is actively regulating the amount of incoming solar energy to maintain the temperature within bounds. It doesn’t disturb the control system that the solar forcing is constantly varying from a host of factors, from dust and volcanoes to 11 and 22 year solar cycles. The thermoregulation system is not based on how much energy there is available from the sun or from CO2. The resulting temperature is not based on the available forcing, we know there’s more than enough forcing available to fry us. It is set instead by the unchanging physics of wind and wave and pressure and most of all temperature that regulates when clouds form … so when the sun goes up a bit, the clouds go up a bit, and balance is maintained.”
I suggest that one should distinguish between forcing elements such as mass, gravity and energy input on the one hand and all other forcing elements on the other hand.
The first three elements will affect surface temperature and total system energy content although the water cycle does limit the system response to such forcings as per the relatively small changes since the early faint sun.
We can see that solar variations do have an effect via the transitions between ice ages and interglacials in response to the Milankovitch cycles.
All other elements have a virtually zero effect on temperature and system energy content after a period of transition involving shifting air and ocean circulations.
I have previously set out in considerable detail here and elsewhere how the system achieves thermal stability in the face of constantly varying forcing elements.
Willis’s article is well written and accurate but not novel.
It is good that he now recognises pressure as a relevant factor. Not long ago he was abrasive towards those of us who saw a significant role for pressure.
It is good too that he is now looking at the water cycle as a whole rather than just tropical thunderstorm activity as per his original hypothesis.
I note that the pressure and water cycle aspects are now being noted more clearly by the so called Slayer group too.
Furthermore the potential for top down solar effects on the global air circulation is being better recognised at NASA as per a recent thread here.
It has long been my contention that the distribution of the permanent climate zones at any given moment is a result of the constant interaction between top down solar variations and bottom up oceanic variability and that the entire global circulation (including ocean cycles) is the adjustment mechanism smoothing out all attempts at thermal disruption.
It is the shifting of those permanent climate zones and the associated changes in global cloud cover that regulate the amount of solar energy able to enter the oceans to fuel the climate system.
It is atmospheric pressure gravity and top of atmosphere insolation (ignoring geothermal for the moment) that determines the amount of energy that the system can contain
Any other factors such as GHG quantities only have a redistributive effect with no long term influence on surface temperature or system energy content and in the case of our CO2 emssions the effect would be miniscule compared to natural solar and oceanic forcings as I have explained extensively elsewhere.

Steve Keohane
February 10, 2013 9:57 am

As regards the oil on water effect, Steve Goddard has a chart of NH temps from NASA 3/1/1975. It shows a steep drop in temperature from 1938 to 1945 of ~.5°C. here:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/nasa-disappears-the-cooling-trend/

February 10, 2013 10:19 am

“Yeah, I see articles on slow drift in thermoregulated emergent systems all the time …”
It is novel turn of phrase but is that enough ?

February 10, 2013 10:28 am

“I have no truck with those who claim that pressure (gravity) by itself causes the lower part of the atmosphere to be warmer than the upper part. This is the Jelbring hypothesis,”
My position is and was that it is pressure plus energy input (insolation) but you didn’t seem to have much truck with that at one time.
Anyway, it is good that the issue seems now to be resolved.

Steve Keohane
February 10, 2013 10:52 am

Willis, I meant to add that I trust your memory and my own more than the temperature chart you posted to debunk the urban legend of the brutal winters during WWII. And I trust what we thought the past temperatures were by observation over thirty years ago more than what is sold as same time period temperatures today.

markx
February 10, 2013 11:13 am

I had missed this from phlogiston below:
It was more than 4,000 vessels. (over 4 years, that’s about 3 per day)
And we should remember with respect the more than 100 thousand men who died in those ships.
phlogiston says: February 10, 2013 at 5:17 am
“….will dwarf the sinking of a few metal ships containing oil in a small part of the north Atlantic for 2-3 years…”
And a small part of the North Atlantic? Maps of January 1942 to May 1943 sinkings show some of the extent: http://www.secondworldwar.org.uk/merchantnavy.html
Atlantic Shipping Losses WWII: The Battle of the Atlantic:
3,500 merchant vessels, 175 warships and 783 submarines
Total 4,458 vessels.
Deaths (This, we should not forget)
Allied: 36,200 sailors and 36,000 merchant seamen
German: 30,000 sailors

E.M.Smith
Editor
February 10, 2013 12:12 pm

I wish I’d gotten to this thread sooner. Unfortunately, it was posted just while I was dealing with an issue that could not be ignored.
I generally agree with the thesis. But what I find curiously absent is a well known variation in tidal mixing. Tides do more to mix cold deep layers of the ocean into warm surface layers than do the winds. They change the depth of the oceans too.
Not just on daily or monthly cycles, but on cycles up to 1800 years, 5000 years, and 23,000 years. Why? Because the orbit of the moon and earth slowly drift. The alignments of moon, sun, and earth surface features such as continents and particular oceans also changes. These cause direct movement of water and mixing that lines up with those changes of weather cycles you are calling “drift”.
So I would assert that the thermostat is still working, but the tides stir the pot in ways that change the mass and temperature of water under those clouds and it takes time to adjust (and in some cases, the changed water flow simply can not be fully adjusted out locally).
This isn’t just some idea I’ve cooked up. Better folks than me looked at it and found it. I just discovered their work and collected it into some postings for easier reference. In particular, for longer cycles, this one:
http://www.pnas.org/content/97/8/3814.full
that pretty much lays it all out. Including how much tidal mixing matters and the amount of tidal mixing at any one time for thousands of years (forward and backwards). That mixing matches many known temperature shifts. I have regularly quoted one of the graphs from it in various matches to cycles (or “drifts”…) and shown how it matches up.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/why-weather-has-a-60-year-lunar-beat/
And looked at the various lunar cycles of orbit and how they influence things:
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/lunar-cycles-more-than-one/
There is even good evidence (from several cited papers) that a shift of the Gulf Stream descending point is important to very long cycles and peaks / dips in both glacial and non-glacial regimes. Shifts that could easily be caused by massive flows of water from one ocean basin to another as the moon shifts from pulling water to the N. Hemisphere to pulling it South.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/d-o-ride-my-see-saw-mr-bond/
So leading to things like D.O. events, Bond Events, the Arctic / Polar Seesaw and more.
FWIW, I think one of the ‘key bits’ is the restriction at Drake Passage. More Southern Ocean water rushing around the pole will send more at Drake Passage and run right into a restriction. That will peal off a bunch of cold water that gets shot up the spine of South America and turn out into that “tongue of cold” we saw a few years back as the PDO started to shift. So a lunar tidal “pull” of more water into, say, the Atlantic, would cause a lot of Pacific Water to be whacking into Drake Passage “for a while” and sending a cold shiver out to the central Pacific as a result.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/drakes-passage/
Thanks to variation in rain leading to variation in fire conditions, it looks like the “Lunar Cycles” even influence things like fire rates on land:
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/australia-bushfires-a-lunar-cycle/
(Speaking of aerosols changing weather…)
So while I find the entire thesis of the article quite credible, it looks to me like there is a known water / tides based metronome beat that needs to underlay the thermostat, and that needs to have the “random” drift as a residual after allowing for the known “pot stirring”…

February 10, 2013 12:15 pm

“It’ll do until you provide citations to what in the patent world is termed “prior art”, people discussing the topic using that paradigm ”
Willis said:
“Under my paradigm, on the other hand, natural thermoregulatory systems constrain the temperature to vary within a narrow range”
I said:
“Thus does the atmospheric circulation reconfigure itself to remove the imbalance by adjusting the energy flows through different sections of the atmosphere both vertically and horizontally.”
from here:
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=10723
and:
“virtually all climate variability is a result of internal system variability and additionally the system not only sets up a large amount of variability internally but also provides mechanisms to limit and then reduce that internal variability. It must be so or we would not still have liquid oceans. The current models neither recognise the presence of that internal system variability nor the processes that ultimately stabilise it.”
from here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/06/a-new-and-effective-climate-model/
and:
“AGW is thus falsified because the air cannot warm the oceans and the air circulation systems always adjust to bring surface air temperatures back towards sea surface temperatures.
Climate models do not reflect this obvious truth and the ideas of Tyndall et al whilst correct if taking the air in isolation cannot affect the global equilibrium temperature set by the constantly varying interplay of sun air and oceans.”
from here:
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=3735
There is a lot more but you will get the picture.

February 10, 2013 12:32 pm

Willis said:
“The boiling water system simply moves energy through it at a faster rate, it doesn’t run any hotter”
I said:
“An appropriate analogy is a pan of boiling water. However much the power input increases the boiling point remains at 100C. The speed of boiling however does change in response to the level of power input. The boiling point only changes if the density of the air above and thus the pressure on the water surface changes. In the case of the Earth’s atmosphere a change in solar input is met with a change in evaporation rates and thus the speed of the whole hydrological cycle keeping the overall temperature stable despite a change in solar power input.”
from here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/06/a-new-and-effective-climate-model/

Kev-in-Uk
February 10, 2013 1:11 pm

@Willis
Sir, I don’t have a great deal of free time available, being one of the self employed type people on the industrial world – whereby, if I don’t work, my family doesn’t eat. Therefore, it is with a slight degree of annoyance that I note you have not replied to my repsonse (as requested by yourself). Now, as one mariner to another, I will accept that other pressing things can take preference, e.g. dealing with a man overboard or a shredded mainsail in a rough squall, etc is usually rather a more immediate and pressing requirement of ones time…..
I note however, you have made other responses….
My request is simple – if I (or indeed yourself) have barked up the wrong tree, please let me know by responding to my earlier response to your good self.
I was slightly puzzled by your request for a mechanism and made a reasonable (IMHO) effort to reply – I think, in all honesty, that a response is at least respectfully owed…..
regards
Kev

E.M.Smith
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February 10, 2013 2:27 pm

I note that Marc has trouble with the idea that a degree C is the same as a Kelvin for all practical purposes when talking about how much something changed. To say “It changed 2 C” or “It changed 2 K” are the same thing. Willis just “gets it” and Marc doesn’t.
Percent change is always done in absolutes, so K, or you get bogus results. It was Standard Operating Procedure in chem class to do all the measuring and calcs in C but swap to K for thermo issues. And for exactly the same reasons.
@Alec Rawls:
Don’t forget, too, that the UV shift was accompanied by a general ‘shortening’ of the air column. It is the same amount of air, but “squashed down” compared to the exited high UV state. This means that a whole lot of mountain tops are now, adiabatically, “higher” and so, colder. More snow will stay longer, glaciers will grow again, etc. etc.
IMHO, just that UV modulated atmospheric height change is a “game changer” and explains a lot about how the sun can modulate and “average temperature”. Now if GHCN had not been busy pruning all the thermometers out of “high cold places” we might actually see something interesting in the temperature record too…
The TSI stayed close to constant, so that UV energy moved into IR. This, IMHO, being promptly absorbed in the sea surface / spume is why we had a hot peak in 1998 (then thing adjusted…). So for decades energy was deposited relatively deeply in the oceans via UV, now it’s not, and rapidly gets booted to space by thunderstorms. Net effect, we were storing heat in a slow system of deeper water, now it’s slowly cooling instead. Now we have that heat in the rapid response rapid rejection IR / evaporation / convection / condensation cycle. So we will cool.
(if some of this is already covered in comments, please forgive me. I’m late to the show and working though the long list…)
Goodman:
9 years is 1/2 of a Saros lunar cycle. Do not forget to look at lunar / tidal interactions with your solar cycles. The two are not always in phase. Similarly, the circumpolar wave runs about 9 years:
http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap11/ant_wave.html
If you do not allow for the 18 year tides cycle you will miss a lot.
@Gail Combs:
In the North East of California (well, sort of east) there is a volcanic field with caves. After you descend about 100 feet (guess) you reach the ice floor. It is perpetually filled with ice (though the ancient lava tube runs much further. Even in summer when it’s “100 F in the shade and there is now shade”. You can go from roasting in a dark volcanic solar oven rock field, to ice skating in a modest stroll down the trail… Yes, the “average annual temperature” there is below freezing. So any water that enters, stays frozen at the “average 0 C” point…
@BillH:
There are two “triggers” for glacials to form. First, the Gulf Stream descending point moves more south, leaving more heat in The Gulf of Mexico and Florida and less in Norway and the Arctic. Ice starts to pile up.
Second, this leads to a glacial once insolation north of 65 N is below about 416 W/ m^2 (as precession, obliquity, etc. change in our orbit). In times like now, where we are about 428 W we don’t quite ice up. ( It has to get above this level to melt out of a glacial) but it is also not enough to remove ice if it forms. We re now in the meta-stable stage between stable “interglacial” at the start of the Holocene and stable “glacial” soon to come. There is no longer a tipping point to hotter possible as insolation 65N is too low. There is a tipping point to colder. It will inevitably happen at 416 W/m^2, but could happen sooner with any externally driven cold plunge starting an ice cycle. ( Meteor impact winter, volcano induced ‘years without a summer’, etc.)
Once the ice says at the North Pole through summer, an albedo feedback begins that causes more cold way north and plenty of warm oceans in the lower latitudes (remember that Gulf Stream switch?) so even more snow accumulates. The tropical ‘thunderstorm thermostat’ works, but only in a tropical / temperature regime; not in the Arctic / Polar one. It prevents rise above 30 C but is helpless below 0 C as it is liquid / vapor water driven; not solid water…
Details on Holocene W/m^2 and implications of or present state here:
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/12/29/annoying-lead-time-graph/
We are 12 W / m^2 or less away from guaranteed hard frozen glacial, with an instability that means we can have century scale events drive us to frozen anyway ( L.I.A. for example) and no guarantee of recovery to warm. Oh, and insolation 65 N is continuing to decrease as our planet wobbles in a predetermined way…
Taking a tea break, back in a bit…

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