Slow Drift in Thermoregulated Emergent Systems

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

In my last post, “Emergent Climate Phenomena“, I gave a different paradigm for the climate. The current paradigm is that climate is a system in which temperature slavishly follows the changes in inputs. Under my paradigm, on the other hand, natural thermoregulatory systems constrain the temperature to vary within a narrow range. In the last century, for example, the temperature has varied only about ± 0.3°C, which is a temperature variation of only about a tenth of one percent. I hold that this astonishing stability, in a system whose temperature is controlled by something as fickle and variable as clouds and wind, is clear evidence that there is a strong thermostatic mechanism, or more accurately a host of interlocking thermostatic mechanisms, controlling the temperature.

emergent school of fishFigure 1. The behavior of flocks of birds and schools of fish are emergent phenomena.

However, this brings up a new question—although the change in temperature is quite small, with changes of only a few tenths of a percent per century, less than a degree, sometimes the global average temperature has been rising, and sometimes falling.

So what are some of the things that might be causing these slow, century or millennia long drifts in temperature? Is it changes in the sun? I think that the explanation lies elsewhere than the sun, and here’s why.

The temperature control system I describe above, based on the timing and duration of the onset and existence of emergent temperature phenomena, is temperature based. It is not based on the amount of forcing (downwelling solar and greenhouse radiation).

By that I mean that the control system starts to kick in when the local temperature rises above the critical level for cloud emergence. As a result, by and large the global average temperature of the planet is relatively indifferent to variations in the level of the forcing, whether from the sun, from CO2, from volcanoes, or any other reason. That’s why meteors and volcanoes have come and gone and the temperature just goes on. Remember that at the current temperature, the system variably rejects about a quarter of the available incoming solar energy through reflections off of clouds. We could be a whole lot hotter than we are now, and we’re not …

This means that the system is actively regulating the amount of incoming solar energy to maintain the temperature within bounds. It doesn’t disturb the control system that the solar forcing is constantly varying from a host of factors, from dust and volcanoes to 11 and 22 year solar cycles. The thermoregulation system is not based on how much energy there is available from the sun or from CO2. The resulting temperature is not based on the available forcing, we know there’s more than enough forcing available to fry us. It is set instead by the unchanging physics of wind and wave and pressure and most of all temperature that regulates when clouds form … so when the sun goes up a bit, the clouds go up a bit, and balance is maintained.

And this, in turn, is my explanation of why it is so difficult to find any strong, clear solar signal in the temperature records. Oh, you can find hints, and bits, a weak correlation to this or that, but overall those sun-climate correlations, which under the current paradigm should show visible effects, are very hard to find. I hold that this shows that in general, global average temperature is not a function of the forcing. The sun waxes and wanes, the volcanoes go off for centuries, meteors hit the earth … and the clouds simply adjust to return us to the same thermal level. And this weak dependence of output on input is exactly what we would expect in any significantly complex system.

So if the sun is not guilty of causing the slow drift in global average surface temperature over the centuries, what other possible defendants might we haul before the bar?

Well, the obvious suspects would include anything that affects the timing and duration of the onset and existence of clouds, or their albedo (color). Unfortunately, cloud formation is a complex and poorly understood process. Water droplets in clouds form around a “nucleus”, some kind of particle. This can be sea salt, dust, organic materials, aerosols, a variety of types and species of microorganisms, black carbon, there are a host of known participants with no clear evidence on how or why they vary, or what effects they have when they do vary.  Here’s a quote from the abstract of a 2013 scientific paper, emphasis mine:

The composition and prevalence of microorganisms in the middle-to-upper troposphere (8–15 km altitude) and their role in aerosol-cloud-precipitation interactions represent important, unresolved questions for biological and atmospheric science. In particular, airborne microorganisms above the oceans remain essentially uncharacterized, as most work to date is restricted to samples taken near the Earth’s surface. SOURCE

Here’s another example:

Cumulus clouds result from the ascent of moist air parcels. An unresolved issue in cloud physics is why observed cumulus cloud droplet spectra even in the core of cumulus clouds are broader than the spectra predicted by cloud droplet nucleation and condensational growth in adiabatically ascending parcels (Pruppacher and Klett, 1997). SOURCE

Cumulus clouds are one of the most common types on earth and we don’t even understand cloud nucleation there. The problem is that the size and composition of atmospheric aerosols, and the complex interaction between those aerosols and the various organic and inorganic atmospheric chemicals, ions, free radicals, and natural and man-made particles, plus variations in the type and amount of microbial populations of the atmosphere, plus the ability of one chemical to adsorb onto and totally change the surface properties of another substance, all have the potential to affect both the timing and the duration of both cloud formation and precipitation, along with cloud optical properties. As such, they would have to be strong contenders for any century-scale (and perhaps shorter-scale) drifts in temperature.

Another possible cause for the slow drift might be the proposed cosmic ray connection, sun’s magnetic field –> cosmic ray variations –> changes in cloud nucleation rate. I see no theoretical reason it couldn’t work under existing laws of physics, I made a “cloud chamber” as a kid to see radioactivity come off of a watch. However, one difficulty with this cosmic ray connection is that the records have been combed pretty extensively for sun/climate links, and we haven’t found any strong correlations between the sun and climate. We see weak correlations, but nothing stands out. Doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but it may be indicative of their possible strength … or as always, indicative of our lack of knowledge …

Another cause might be the effect on thunderstorms of gradual changes in the earth’s electromagnetic fields. Thunderstorms have a huge (think lightning bolts) and extremely poorly understood electromagnetic complement. They serve an incredibly complex electromagnetic circuit that  couples the atmosphere and the surface. It ties them together electromagnetically from the “sprites”  that form when thunderstorms push high above the surrounding tropopause, and from there in various ways through dimly glimpsed channels the electromagnetic current runs down to and up from the ground. Thunderstorms also are independent natural electrical Van de Graaf machines, stripping electrons in one part of the thunderstorm, transporting them miles away, and reuniting them in a thunderous electrical arc. We have no idea what things like the gradual changes in the location of the Magnetic Poles and alterations in the magnetosphere or variations in the solar wind might do to the timing and duration of thunderstorms, so we have to include slow alterations in the global magnetic and electrical fields in the list of possibilities, perhaps only because we understand so little about them.

The next possibility for slow changes involves the idea of bifurcation points. Let me take the alteration between the two states of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation as an example. In each of the states of the PDO, we have a quasi-stable (for decades) configuration of ocean currents. At some point in time, for unclear reasons, that configuration of ocean currents changes, and is replaced by an entirely different quasi-stable (for decades) state. In other words, somewhere in there is a bifurcation point in the annual ebb and flow of the currents, and at some point in time, the currents take the path not recently travelled and as a result, the whole North Pacific shifts to the other state.

Now, even in theory one of these two state has to be more efficient than the other in the great work of the heat engine we call the climate. That great work is moving energy from the equator to the poles. And in fact there is a distinct difference, one of the two states is called the “warm” state and the other is called the “cool” state.

Intuitively, it would seem that IF for whatever reason the Pacific Decadal Oscillation stayed permanently in one state or the other, that the world would end up either warmer overall or cooler overall. Let me explain why I don’t think the PDO or the El Nino/La Nina or the North Atlantic Oscillations are responsible for slow drifts in the regulated temperature.

The reason is that just like the thunderstorms, all of those are emergent phenomena of the system. Take the PDO as an example. Looking at the Pacific Ocean, you’d never say “I bet the North Pacific stays warm for decade after decade, and then there’s a great shift, all of the sea life changes, the winds change, the very currents change, and then it will be cold for decade after decade”. No way you’d guess that, it’s emergent.

And because they are emergent systems, I hold that they too are a part of the interconnected thermal regulation system, which in my view includes short term emergent systems (daily thunderstorms), longer term (multi monthly Madden Julian oscillations), longer term (clouds cooling in summer and warming in winter), longer term (3-5 years El Nino/La Nina), and longer term (multidecadal PDO, AMO) emergent systems of all types all working to maintain a constant temperature, with many more uncounted.

And as a result, I would hold that none of those emergent systems would be a cause of slow drift. To the contrary, I would expect that they would work the other way, to counteract slow drift and prevent overheating.

Moving on, here’s an off-the-wall possibility for human induced change—oil on the global oceans. It only takes the thinnest, almost monomolecular layer of oil on water to change the surface tension, and we’ve added lots of it. This reduces evaporation in two ways. It reduces evaporation directly by reducing the amount of water in contact with the air.

The second way is by preventing the formation of breaking waves, spray, and spume (sea foam). Spray of any kind greatly increases the water surface available for evaporation, depending on windspeed. Remember that evaporation due to wind speed is the way that the thunderstorm is able to sustain itself. So when the amount of area evaporating is decreased by ten or twenty percent due to lack of spray, that will commensurately decrease the evaporation, and thus affect the timing of the onset and the duration of thunderstorms.

OK, you gotta love this. I thought “time for more research” after writing the last paragraph, and I find this:

Sailors who traditionally dumped barrels of oil into the sea to calm stormy waters may have been on to something, a new study suggests. The old practice reduces wind speeds in tropical hurricanes by damping ocean spray, according to a new mathematical “sandwich model”.

As hurricane winds kick up ocean waves, large water droplets become suspended in the air. This cloud of spray can be treated mathematically as a third fluid sandwiched between the air and sea. “Our calculations show that drops in the spray decrease turbulence and reduce friction, allowing for far greater wind speeds – sometimes eight times as much,” explains researcher Alexandre Chorin at the University of California at Berkeley, US.

He believes the findings shed light on an age-old sea ritual. “Ancient mariners poured oil on troubled waters – hence the expression – but it was never very clear what this accomplished,” says Chorin. Since oil inhibits the formation of drops, Chorin thinks the strategy would have increased the drag in the air and successfully decreased the intensity of the squalls.

SOURCE

Hmmm … good scientists, not such good sailors. As scientists, I’d say they only have part of the answer. They should also run a calculation on the increase of the evaporative area due to the spray, and then consider that the hurricane runs on evaporation. That’s why they die out over the land, no moisture. Cut down the spray, put oil on the water, cut down the evaporation, cut down the power of the storms. And just like you get sweatier and hotter if a muggy day prevents evaporation, the same is true of the ocean. If you cut down evaporation, it will get warmer.

Of course, the counter-argument to the oil-on-the-water cuts evaporation and warms the ocean hypothesis was World War II. It put more oil into all of the oceans of the world than at any time before or since, and during the war in general the world was quite cold … dang fact, they always get in the way.

Having said that, as a blue-water man I can assure you that the authors of that claim are not sailors. Sailors don’t dump oil in the water to lower the wind speed, that’s a landlubber fantasy. They do it because it prevents waves from breaking and drops and spray from forming, so it can help in rough conditions. It doesn’t take much, you’d be surprise at the effect it has. You soak a rag in motor oil and tow it a ways behind the boat when you are drifting downwind. If the Coast Guard catches you, you’ll get a ticket for causing a sheen on the water and rightly so, but if it saves your life once, it’s probably worth it. Heck, when you’re caught in a big offshore blow, if it just has a placebo effect and reduces your personal pucker factor, its probably worth it … but I digress.

One thing is clear, however. The climate has been on a slow drift up and down and up and down, warm in Roman times, cold in the Dark Ages, warm in the Middle Ages, cold in the Little Ice Age, warm now … so while humans may indeed play some part the post-1940’s drift (down, then up, now level), it’s likely not a big part or we would have seen it by now … and in any case if we did have an effect, we still don’t know how.

I want to close by noting the power of the paradigm. If the paradigm is that greenhouse gases are the likely reason for slow climate drift because you assert (curiously and incorrectly) that temperature slavishly follows forcing, then you will look for variations in all the things that affect those GHGs.

But once the paradigm shifts to describing the climate as composed of interlocking active thermoregulatory mechanisms, we find ourselves with a range of entirely different and credible candidates for slow drift that are untouched and uninvestigated. It may be something above, or something I haven’t even considered, the change in plankton affecting the clouds or something.

This is why the claim that we have identified the “major forcings” as being say CO2 and methane and such ring hollow. Those are only the major players within the current paradigm. The problem is, that paradigm cannot explain a system so tightly thermoregulated that over the last century, the global average surface temperature only varied by ± one tenth of a percent … engineers, please correct me if I’m wrong, but given volcanoes and aerosols and the like that is a record that any control systems engineer would be proud of, and it is done with things as ephemeral as clouds. To me, that fact alone proves that the earth has a thermostat, and a dang precise one for that matter. A truly wondrous and marvel-filled planet indeed.

In friendship and exploration of the aforesaid marvels,

w.

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February 9, 2013 4:40 am

“Remember that at the current temperature, the system variably rejects about a quarter of the available incoming solar energy through reflections off of clouds.”
Is it only clouds? The highest heat ever recorded was about 57C, which I expect would have been under a blue sky with the sun overhead. The max temp on the surface of the Space Station is about 120C and on the moon 116C. So without clouds what is preventing the Earths surface getting up to 120C?
Why can’t the atmosphere itself act as a reflector or absorber of heat thus preventing what looks like 50% of the suns energy getting to the surface? Some representations of the Earth’s heat ‘budget’ show 50% of heat being reflected at the surface. In that case reflection should also work just as well for the Space Station and the moon and they should also experience max temps 50% cooler than they are?
Why is it also that if you go up a mountain where there is less air between you and the sun the temperature goes down, even though exposure to Ultraviolet goes up? As you so eloquently explain our oceans and atmosphere work like a giant water and air conditioning system moving heat around the planet in what is a very thin layer, however the max temp in Death Valley would have been in still air and going up a mountain in still air doesn’t expose one to the full force of the Sun’s heat.
It also seems to me that the area rule is applied as a singular and all important factor in the difference between temperatures at the equator and poles (that’s once the ice has melted). I would contend that first is the amount of atmosphere the sun’s heat has to get through followed by the ocean and atmospheric circulation and heat redistribution, followed then by area rule, This is because any surface at either pole such as a mountain or ridge that is face on to the sun should have the same temperature as any similar type of surface sharing the same angle to the sun, anywhere else on the planet. So if a valley face on Greenland happens to be face on to the sun (under a clear sky) it should be the same temperature as perhaps the valley floor in Death Valley when it is face on to the sun?

February 9, 2013 4:44 am

“So if a valley face on Greenland happens to be face on to the sun (under a clear sky) it should be the same temperature as perhaps the valley floor in Death Valley when it is face on to the sun?”
I should have added “…according to the area rule?”

Tom in Florida
February 9, 2013 4:53 am

Perhaps the reason for all the problems with understanding what regulates climate is because using an average global temperature as a benchmark is meaningless. Local climates can have large ranges in temperature so “average global temperature” does nothing to tell anyone what is actually happening.

Greg Goodman
February 9, 2013 4:57 am

oldfossil says: “When I see a WUWT post authored by Willis I normally give it a miss and now I’m reminded why.”
Just as well you got so far reading this one and about fifty comments to get to the comment you quoted. For someone who would “normally give it a miss ” , you seem to be paying particularly close attention.
Just saying…
I usually find Willis’ stuff excellent and his replies polite and even handed.

February 9, 2013 5:00 am

Most readers’ minds can no doubt deal readily with concepts as abstract as “emergent phenomena,” but for those of us not so blessed it may perhaps be of some assistance to peruse these much simpler (and readily googleable) examples of that concept’s component features: hysteresis in ferromagnetic-core solenoids and in static/dynamic friction (pumping brakes) and bimodality in tunnel diodes and in departure from nucleate boiling.
Note to Mr. Eschenbach: For some of us the use of “overshoot” as a synonym for hysteresis is confusing because, I am reliably informed, it is used in some circles to refer to the behavior of underdamped second-order systems that are completely linear.

lgl
February 9, 2013 5:09 am

Gail,
It turns out that one can use the Earth’s oceans as one giant calorimeter to measure the amount of heat Earth absorbs and reemits every solar cycle
Change that to ‘volcano cycle’ http://virakkraft.com/sealevel-VEI-4.jpg
The correlation with solar totally breaks around 1920.

cba
February 9, 2013 5:17 am

An interesting and thoughtful presentation Willis. Have you seen what might count as evidence for the oil on the water scenario associated with the BP oil spill in the gulf or any other major spills?
Note that I do agree with you on the cloud factor. I believe that Lindzen’s Iris theory is based upon variation in cloud albedo rather than overall cloud cover where the albedo is changing due to the nucleation materials. It was ‘supposedly refuted by some warmista trying to prove it didn’t work in the arctic region when it was presented by Lindzen as a tropical factor.

Kev-in-Uk
February 9, 2013 5:25 am

Willis Eschenbach says:
February 9, 2013 at 1:33 am
I agree that Mosh has been a bit obtuse there – but he has a valid point and I would respectively add that the total thermal inertia in the system (land,oceans, etc) is much greater than in the atmospheric surface ‘air’ temperatures! The diurnal temperature variation noted in a normal day affects only the top few millimetres of land and sea and of course the convected heat into the lower atmosphere ‘air’. I am sure you realise that the thermal inertia (or latent heat content, if you prefer) of the oceans and land, buildings, etc – is what ‘smooths’ out both the diurnal temp variation and reduces the effect of other cyclic changes (ENSO, AMO, etc).
FWIW, this is why I do not take palaeo temp (or other proxy) data as entirely ‘read’, except with a bucket of salt – because we know from current observations, that cyclic changes can take a long time to appear/affect the climate system. But what we do not know is how long some of these lag effects are or what their periodicity will do to the palaeo record (in effect, the palaeo record is thus at best a severely smoothed temperature average!) – the lag effects could be decadal right through to multi-millenial (e.g Milankovitch).
Equally, this is why current temp data needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt (UHI and bad station data ignored!) because the effects we see today, may be result of changes from many decades or centuries ago, about which we know nothing, or have only weak evidence!
In simple terms, our data ‘sample’ is so darned small in terms of earths age and climate as to be almost useless.

February 9, 2013 5:33 am

“You reported the change as +/- 0.3 C. Then did the average using Kelvins. ”
20% longer distance is 20% longer distance whether measured in miles or centimeters. That’s one of the benefits of using percentages… units don’t really matter. The comparison is X to X*1.2 and the units remain the same so they “cancel out.”

Leonard Weinstein
February 9, 2013 5:40 am

In reply to Steven Mosher says:
February 8, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Steve, I think you are referring to time scales much longer than 200 years back for the larger variation (e.g., 100 k year glacial to interglacial variation). The likely cause of the larger change over these longer time periods is slow variation in Earth’s tilt to the Sun. The large land area and seas in the high North latitudes accumulate and retain more ice when summer tilt is larger, so reflection from ice increases albedo independent of clouds. This would lead to a glacial period, and global cooling due to decreased total insolation. When the tilt decreases, much of the land and some of the sea ice melts and insolation increases, resulting in increased average temperature. These processes occurs over much longer time periods than Willis was referring to.

Bill Illis
February 9, 2013 5:44 am

New paper published in PNAS this week which goes through the natural variation cycles and the global warming trends going back to HadCET starting in 1659. Invokes the AMO and contains lots of interesting explanation.
http://depts.washington.edu/amath/research/articles/Tung/journals/Tung_and_Zhou_2013_PNAS.pdf

February 9, 2013 5:44 am

Willis,
If you wanted to write a groundbreaking paper you should put some thought into what could cause a lag in overall temperature correction.
Your first article in the series examined things on a strictly local level to balance that out. Ok, good. Lets say that part of that balancing act shuffles heat from one area to another area, but in aggregate leaves a small rise in temperature at the new location that doesn’t get cancelled out. Eventually the accumulation on the system overall triggers a different system to wipe out the accumulation. Maybe it’s as simple as the various jet streams switching more heat over the oceans, increasing evaporation->cloud cover->higher albedo->lower temperatures until the jet streams switch back once the temp swings low enough.
Would explain the rise, then current leveling off of temperatures that we’re experiencing. Explain that to scientific satisfaction, and you’ve got a book tour. 🙂

Claude Harvey
February 9, 2013 5:45 am

I think this might be the best summary ever of “knowing what we don’t know” about global climate. The historic evidence of “self-regulation” is what brought me to question AGW theory when the theory first became fashionable; that and the fact that it seemed unlikely a quarter-inch tail could be wagging a 100-yard-long dog. If a warming sun, horrific episodes of volcanic eruptions, catastrophic meteor strikes and etc. have not budged the “thermostat”, what chance have mankind’s puny efforts?

Coldish
February 9, 2013 5:47 am

Interesting ideas, Willis, thank you. Average surface temperature does oscillate over a wider range on the glacial/interglacial timescale, but on that scale too there seem to be controls which stop the system overshooting at either end.

Retired Engineer John
February 9, 2013 6:00 am

Willis, go back and look at your posts on the Argo float temperatures. You showed that the ocean limits it’s temperature to approximately 30 degrees C. This is only one of many mechanisms that serve as a thermostat. The Oceans are one big chemical factory storing energy in chemical compounds.

Gail Combs
February 9, 2013 6:07 am

*NB* I know you don’t mind the short wait Gail but for the benefit of others….
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I just keep a copy and wait a half hour.
The links are a lot easier to put in in the first place than having to defend the position later with the links and make the narrative that much harder to follow.
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lgl says: February 9, 2013 at 5:09 am
Change that to ‘volcano cycle’ http://virakkraft.com/sealevel-VEI-4.jpg
The correlation with solar totally breaks around 1920.
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Yes I know, (I was trying to keep it short and focused, not one of my traits)

Sun/dust correlations and volcanic interference 2002
J. Donarummo Jr.1, M. Ram, 2, M. R. Stolz.
ABSTRACT
We examine the relationship between the GISP2 dust profile, a proxy for the Northern Hemisphere atmospheric dust load, and the Wolf sunspot number, a proxy for solar activity. The two records are positively correlated, but the phase of the relationship is disturbed by the effects of explosive volcanism. Similar correlation failures have already been noted for many other climatic indicators. Our work suggests that a large fraction of the correlation failures may be attributed to explosive volcanic activity

News release about above paper:

Study of Dust in Ice Cores Shows Volcanic Eruptions Interfere with the Effect of Sunspots on Global Climate
The research, published in a paper in the May 15 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, provides striking evidence that sunspots — blemishes on the sun’s surface indicating strong solar activity — do influence global climate change, but that explosive volcanic eruptions on Earth can completely reverse those influences.
It is the first time that volcanic eruptions have been identified as the atmospheric event responsible for the sudden and baffling reversals that scientists have seen in correlations between sunspots and climate….
According to the UB researchers, their work reveals two different mechanisms by which climate is affected by cosmic rays, charged particles that stream toward Earth and which are strongly influenced by solar activity….
“Whenever scientists thought they had discovered something, say, they were seeing a positive correlation between temperature and sunspots, it would continue like that for several years and, all of a sudden, there would be a reversal and, instead, they would start to see a negative correlation,” said Ram.
“There seemed to be no consistent relationship between what the sun was doing and what the climate was doing,” he said….
“By carefully studying the timing of other volcanic eruptions, we found that they coincided with all of the correlation reversals between sunspots and climate,” said Ram.

There is a heck of a lot of variables all interlinking. Volcanoes can emit sulfur. I can’t find a specific paper but this shows sulfur is important to the phytoplankton that emit dimethylsulfide (DMS) and change clouds and albedo.

ABSTRACT
The IronEx studies showed that in situ addition of iron in “high-nitrate-low-chlorophyll” regions of the Pacific Ocean increased the amount of dimethylsulfide (DMS) available for emission to the atmosphere. Here we show results from two similar experiments in the Southern Ocean (SOIREE, 61°S and EisenEx, 48°S). DMS concentrations increased up to 8-fold and we find marked similarity in the changes in dimethylsulfonioproprionate (the algal precursor of DMS) during the Pacific and Southern Ocean experiments, despite large differences in algal community, temperature, light and mixed layer depth. These results may lend support to a link between paleo-climatic variations in iron availability, emissions of DMS and, hence, atmospheric albedo and global temperature. Further, if large-scale iron fertilization is to be considered as a strategy for mitigating the increase in man-made CO2 in the atmosphere then the climatic affects of DMS and a number of other trace gases must be assessed.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2004GL020296/abstract

phlogiston
February 9, 2013 6:18 am

This article did not include a single mathematical equation. But it did have a nice picture of a group of small fish making the shape of a big fish.
The overall point Willis is making is of course correct, that nonlinear/nonequilibrium pattern dynamics play a role in weather and climate. It is useful to explain this in qualitative terms. And any scientist denying nonlinear phanomena in climate is akin to flat earether. I dont think any serious ones do
However there is a well established field of physical / mathematical study of nonlinear/nonequlilbrium pattern systems, including oscillatory systems. This is in a way frustrating – it is easy in a few seconds with a few clicks of the mouse to turn up many advanced studies of oscillatory pattern systems whose methods and conclusions probably have some important light to shed on the big climate questions. But no-one is doing this. The nonlinear expertise is staying cooped up in fields like chemical, electrical and process engineering and a few others, but not being applied to climate science. For instance, the use of a Melnikov function to tease out the emergent tidal oscillation from multiple interacting tidal forcings in a coastal inlet by Doelman et al 2002 Probably provides the method needed to correctly analyse alternation between glacial and interglacial periods under Milankovich forcings. Climate scientist meanwhile continue operate in a sterile linear paradigm.
Generally what role do nonlinear pattern phenomena play in the climate debate? The role it does not play is to try to argue that chaos / nonlinearity abrogates thermodynamics. In this sense Steve Mosher is right and Willis wrong. If you boil a kettle, plenty of nonlinear pattern phenomena happen in the kettle. Hexagonal cells spontaneously appear as instability develops between the heated lower layer and cooler upper layers. However does the outbreak of chaos allow the kettle to eject all the incoming electrical heat into the surrounding kitchen and stubbornly refuse to boil? No – the kettle boils. Its just that the water does not heat in a spatiotemperally uniform way.
Instead, what nonlinear pattern phenomena should provide is destruction of one of the most stupid arguments in climate science, which is “Oh look – global temperatures are rising. We think CO2 is responsible. Can you think of anything else that might be causing this rise? No? Nor can I! I cant think of anything else either! Well then its all settled – CO2 is warming the planet! [donate here]”
This is of course the real reason why climate science is holding out against acceptance of nonlinear pattern phenomena and chaos-related dynamics. Once one does, the question of the idiotic “null hypothesis” of stasis disappears like dark-ages animistic superstition. It is obvious from the open, dissipative and non-equilibrium nature of the atmosphere-ocean system, combined with periodic forcings from moon, sun and orbital cycles, that oscillation is going to be the norm, not the exception. Richard Lindzen put it best, “a climate in stasis or equilibrium would be like something dead…. “to believe that the end-19th century represented climate perfection is not a sign of intelligence”.

February 9, 2013 6:20 am

The mean global temperature of the atmosphere is not an “emergent” phenomenon, but simply a designed one. No one has yet demonstrated to my professional scientific satisfaction that there has even been any real global (as opposed to regional) warming over the period of modern temperature records; it is entirely unclear that climate scientists are even properly measuring the true global mean surface temperature, that they may not after all have been merely identifying multidecadal ocean temperature oscillations as “global mean surface temperature”.
“Emergent phenomena” is just a false euphemism for a very real design of the world (as is every other design-denying term that has been invented by defenders of the undirected evolution paradigm, to avoid admitting the rather obvious designs scientists and laymen alike can observe just about any day, if their eyes and minds are open to recognizing them–look, for example, at the flowers, and their characteristic so-called “co-evolution” with animals and plants, a fundamental characteristic entirely counter to the expectations of, and thus disproving, undirected evolution). The next paradigm, as only my research has uncovered, is a rebirth of appreciation for the world design, as most recently redone by the “gods” of ancient worldwide myths, in a wholesale re-formation of the Earth’s surface (designed to communicate their deeds to any future mankind capable of seeing and interpreting it), only 10,000 to 20,000 years ago.

Paul Coppin
February 9, 2013 6:23 am

What you’re calling “slow drift” may very likely be nothing (and everything!) more than a long period oscillation. We haven’t yet acquired the capacity to integrate the impact of planetary scale oscillatory events in chaotic systems, except by models, all of which are currently naive. A question in my mind, when discussing the atmosphere, is not the role trace gases play (and I rank O2 as a trace gas in this context), but to what extent does the huge volume of atmospheric nitrogen represent as a thermostabilizer? Yes, it is biochemically active and plays well in some redox reactions, but it is, on a large scale, somewhat inert. We may be chasing mosquitos with our emphasis on components whose effects are largely localized, and missing some of the bigger determiners.

Al in Kansas
February 9, 2013 6:28 am

I would think that Gail Combs make a critically important point. Any attempts at describing climate without including effect of the energy storage in the ocean is not going to have any validity.

DirkH
February 9, 2013 6:29 am

“Slow Drift in Thermoregulated Emergent Systems”
Your thunderstorm governor is of a digital nature. So a long term drift of the AVERAGE corresponds to pulse width modulation.
Which makes claims of impending doom all the more laughable; yes the average will go up or down, yet the values between which the short term temperature switches are entirely unaffected.
This of course also goes for impending doom through cooling short of all out glaciation.

rogerknights
February 9, 2013 6:29 am

Regarding the potential effect of an oil film on the ocean, here’s another possibility along the same lines. I.e., a contaminant that hasn’t been considered. The poster below has posted other comments like this one over the years.

RAVEENDRAN NARAYANAN says:
September 28, 2010 at 9:58 am
HOW CLIMATE IS CHANGING?
Massive Arctic ice island drifting toward shipping lanes The biggest Arctic “ice island” to form in nearly 50 years — a 250-square-kilometer behemoth described as four times the size of Manhattan — has been discovered after a Canadian scientist scanning satellite images of northwest Greenland spotted a giant break in the famed Petermann Glacier.
Canada.com – Aug 07 10:16am
In another research, using Autosub, an autonomous underwater vehicle, researchers led by the British Antarctic Survey have captured ocean and sea-floor measurements, which revealed a 300 meter high ridge on the sea floor. Pine Island Glacier was once sitting atop this underwater ridge, which slowed its flow into the sea. The warm water, trapped under the ice, is causing the bottom of the ice shelf to thaw, resulting in continuousthinning and acceleration of glacial melt. Lead author Adrian Jenkins said, “The discovery of the ridge has raised new questions about whether the current loss of ice from Pine Island Glacier is caused by recent climate change or is a continution of a longer-term process that began when the glacier disconnect from the ridge”.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100620200810.htm
Not only warm water, but also concentrated Magnesium Chloride =7,100 p.p.m & Sodium
Chloride= 31,000 p.p.m. (de-icing agents) trapped under the ice, is causing the bottom of the
ice shelf to thaw, resulting in continuous thinning and acceleration of glacial melt
(under water glacier cutting).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGHlEBvKYw&sns=fb
Last Winter, Australian Glaciologist, Neal Young, declared that more than 300 icebergs are
floating in the East Antarctica.
DISINTEGRATED ICE SHELVES DISINTEGRATION DATES
Worde Ice shelf March 1986
Larsen A Ice shelf January 1995
Larsen B Ice shelf February 2002
Jones Ice Shelf 2008
Wilkins Ice shelf March 2008
If the Ice shelves are disintegrating during WINTER, it is not SUN or CO2.
U.N. Secretary General, BAN KI-MOON recently declared that ” Let me be clear, the thread of Climate Change is real “.
“The Climate is changing” said JAY LAWRIMORE, Chief of Climate Analysing at the National Climate Data Center in Asheville, N.C. “Extreme events are occuring with greater frequency and in many cases with greater intensity”.
The current Climate Change is due to the following:-
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2. Artificial Island developments in the Arabian Gulf since 1985: dredging, drilling, dynamiting & excavation of sea floor shifted Magnesium Chloride, Sulfur & Sodium Chloride.
The geographic position of the Arabian Gulf, Ocean circulations bringing it to Arctic & Antarctic Oceans during Monsoon seasons along with hot water of the Middle East. Those who are having the Oceans water Analysis since 1980 will WIN the Climate WAR. Concentrated 7,100 p.p.m. of Magnesium Chloride & 31,000 p.p.m. of Sodium Chloride are detected in the Arabian Gulf. These are De-icing agents which are helping to disintegrates the Arctic & Antarctic Ice shelves. Now International Desalination Association (IDA) formed a committee to investigate about it. If we enforce strict Environmental regulations, recover MgCl3 and NaCl3 at Straight of Hormosa and Straight of Gibraltar and recover those at closed eddies of Baffin Bay & Green Land Sea. Sea ice & Ice shelfs in Arctic & Antarctic are Natural Air Conditioners of the Planet EARTH. When more ice in both Poles, the third Pole, as Scientists described, Himalayas will have abundance of ice and Snow & Bolivia will have more Glaciers & water.
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Austin
February 9, 2013 7:13 am

Another area is plant respiration. I’ve been in the middle of a field when the sun came out. I could feel the air become super humid within minutes and the air also got warmer.

Greg Goodman
February 9, 2013 7:18 am

lgl says:
February 9, 2013 at 5:09 am
Gail,
It turns out that one can use the Earth’s oceans as one giant calorimeter to measure the amount of heat Earth absorbs and reemits every solar cycle
Change that to ‘volcano cycle’ http://virakkraft.com/sealevel-VEI-4.jpg
The correlation with solar totally breaks around 1920.
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Looks interesting. Do have a link to something more readable than that garbled photo-collage mess of a graph, preferably with data sources?
I was looking at just this issue last week when I found indications of a circa 9y cycle in temperatures of the various ocean basins. It appears that the these cycles are about the same size as the potentially solar related signal and the phase crisis that happens around 1920-1930 is when the two are out of phase.
Auto-correlation of N and S. Atlantic SST (ICOADS, not Hadley massaged data):
http://oi50.tinypic.com/29kv291.jpg
Ten cycles from present (2005) to 90 years ago , clear 9y cycle. Reduced magnitude at 40 , 80, 120y is likely interference with other periodic repetitions.
The temp record in 20’s has peaks about every 4 or 5y , this would be due to the two being out of phase rather than in sync. They were in sycn in 80s and 90s , hence the large decadal scale variations.
If you have a link to the source of the VE3+ data , I’d like to have a look.

Gail Combs
February 9, 2013 7:35 am

Stephen Skinner says:
February 9, 2013 at 4:40 am
“Remember that at the current temperature, the system variably rejects about a quarter of the available incoming solar energy through reflections off of clouds.”
…..
Is it only clouds?…..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NO, remember Ozone and O2 react with incoming UV and EUV the high energy wavelengths from the sun.

CHARACTERISTICS OF THE GENERAL CIRCULATION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE GLOBAL DISTRIBUTION OF TOTAL OZONE AS DETERMINED BY THE NIMBUS III SATELLITE INFRARED INTERFEROMETER SPECTROMETER
Ozone is an important atmospheric trace constituent. The depletion of solar radiation between approximately 2000 and 3000 A is the result of strong absorption by ozone in the ultraviolet wave-lengths. The energy absorbed in this process is the prime source of thermal energy in the stratosphere. Because of this, ozone plays an important role in the large-scale motions of the atmosphere….
….A strong correlation was found between the meridional gradient of total ozone and the wind velocity in jet stream systems…..
….A study of the total ozone distribution over two tropical storms indicated that each disturbance was associated with a distinct ozone minimum….
A comparison of time-longitude stratospheric radiance values at 60 S with values of the total ozone indicated that low (high) radiance values corresponded very closely with the low (high) ozone variations. The speed at which these ozone ‘waves’ progress eastward is greater
in the winter hemisphere. The speed of eastward progression decreases as one approaches the lower latitudes in the winter hemisphere. In the equatorial region and in the Northern Hemisphere summer there is not a strong eastward progression of the ozone ‘waves’ but a westward progression….

Changes in Ozone and Stratospheric Temperature graph

The graph above shows total ozone and stratospheric temperatures over the Arctic since 1979. Changes in ozone amounts are closely linked to temperature, with colder temperatures resulting in more polar stratospheric clouds and lower ozone levels. Atmospheric motions drive the year-to-year temperature changes. The Arctic stratosphere cooled slightly since 1979, but scientists are currently unsure of the cause….
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/features/200402_tango/

Ozone is formed when intensive ultra-violet radiation from the Sun breaks down O2 into two oxygen atoms. These highly reactive oxygen atoms can then react with more O2 to form O3 (‘intensive ultra-violet radiation’ = EUV )

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