European Carbon Trading Hits Another Record Low

EU_Carbon_priceSluggish German economy forces EU carbon to record low

17 Jan 2013 17:26 Last updated: 17 Jan 2013 21:32

LONDON, Jan 17 (Reuters Point Carbon) – EU carbon prices hit a fresh record low on Thursday as poor economic data from Germany and relatively healthy supply of coal continued to force European power and coal prices lower.

http://www.pointcarbon.com/news/1.2142679

In related news, California says they aren’t going to get involved in Australia’s carbon Market via any price linkages: 

California downplays possibility of Australia CO2 market link

17 Jan 2013 00:33 Last updated: 17 Jan 2013 00:33

DAVIS, CALIFORNIA, Jan 16 (Reuters Point Carbon) – California officials said they have no plans to sign any agreement with Australia linking their carbon markets down the road, despite interest on the part of Australian officials to expand its coming emissions trading system.

http://www.pointcarbon.com/news/1.2141217

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It looks like the EU Carbon price is following the trend of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) before it flatlined and folded.

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Since the EU carbon price has been in free fall for awhile now, it is just a matter of time.

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arthur4563
January 18, 2013 7:26 pm

“A MW is not a unit of energy. Your comment is meaningless drivel. Study physics enough to have a basic understanding of power and energy. Then you will be able to form a thought on the subject.”
ANy fool can see that MWhr was intended. Why not think before spouting off drivel?

wws
January 18, 2013 8:36 pm

For P. Walker, on the cost of nat gas: I believe you are right about Boone Pickens, in that he drilled so many dry gas wells. Still, he has to keep them producing in order to earn what he can from them. Remember that the ongoing cost of production is quite low once a well is drilled; the great majority of the expense of a project is front loaded, and once that money is spent, it’s spent.
There is another factor going on with the shale drillers right now that is driving gas prices lower, and that is that they are now drilling in areas that either have a lot of oil or a lot of “wet” gas, which is nat gas containing a high proportion of long chain hydrocarbons which condense into a very rich petroleum liquid which is more valuable than straight crude. (it’s already partially refined)
If you can produce 100 bbls of condensate a day, which is decent but not phenomenal for a shale well, at today’s prices you will be bringing in nearly $10,000 per day in condensate sales alone. Keep it up for just one year and that’s income of $3.65 million, and it doesn’t matter what price you sell the gas you produce at, since any money you get from the gas is just gravy. Given that the average shale gas well costs $4 – $5 million to drill today, one that produces a lot of condensate and/or oil with the gas can still hit payout in a couple of years, no matter what price you sell your gas at.
Drillers following this model are those who continue to drive the price of nat gas down, and I don’t see anything that will change this situation until demand for nat gas starts to pick up dramatically. That will probably only happen if the US authorizes nat gas exports, which isn’t decided yet.

philincalifornia
January 19, 2013 6:45 am

P Walker says:
January 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm
wws says:
January 18, 2013 at 8:36 pm
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Great comments guys. I love this site. Reality in action.
I’ll also add that there are some new natural gas to liquid fuels and chemicals technologies coming down the pike that could become game-changers. These include:
– Direct catalytic conversion to ethylene (major companies already have plants to convert ethylene to 1-octene and beyond).
– Bioconversion of natural gas to diesel and other high(er) value products.
Innovation = business as usual for people living in the real world (to pick up on comments from other threads).
T. Boone would do well to get into this, as liquid natural gas is almost certainly a non-starter with U.S. automobile manufacturers.

January 19, 2013 2:48 pm

I used to be in the LNG business as a cryogenic cargo (LNG) engineer on a 125,000 cubic meter LNG tanker. There is much more LNG around than most people realize. It’s used mostly for peak shaving in gas distribution systems. However, there is lots of experience/technology in handling the stuff.
Natural gas is a pretty good fuel for internal combustion engines. It has a really high auto-ignition temperature, so you can use it in very high compression engines, both Otto and Diesel cycle. It’s clean, except for the NOx created in a high compression (more efficient) engine. Of course, the specific gravity is only about 0.48, and the fuel is mostly hydrogen, so the miles-per-gallon would be much lower than diesel or gasoline. And, you have to keep it at -162 C at STP to keep it liquid.
As I recall, it takes some 30% of the energy in the gas to complete the process (liquification/transport/regasification). Still, if the gas field is “stranded” there is no other use for it.
My guess is that for automotive fuel, it will have limited use. Perhaps for urban automotive/truck fleets where CNG is not attractive for some reason. Or remote gas processing plants.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack
(Jon Jewett’s evil twin)

John
January 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Carbon trading is an exercise in fraud, misinformation and manipulation. Venture there at your own risk.