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This is funny and sad at the same time. The funny part is the fact that none of Paul Erhlich’s doom and gloom predictions about the human condition from the 70’s on have even come remotely close to true, the sad part is that the Royal Society, whose motto is Nullius in verba, Latin for “Take nobody’s word for it”, is taking the word of this doomer that can’t predict his way out of a paper bag. The focus now? You guessed it: global warming causing “escalating climate disruption”, which is unsupportable when you look at the data. Even the IPCC in their SREX report doesn’t agree with claims of “escalating climate disruption” as Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. pointed out. Plus, Nature recently went on record with an editorial saying Better models are needed before exceptional events can be reliably linked to global warming.
These facts seem to make no dent in the doomers thinking, which seems to believe we are as ill equipped as the Mayans to manage ourselves, our resources, and our environment. One wonders about their sanity.
(h/t to Dr. Leif Svalgaard).
Can a collapse of global civilization be avoided?
10 January 2013
Title:Perspective: Can a collapse of global civilization be avoided?
Authors:Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich
Journal:Proceedings of the Royal Society B
Throughout our history environmental problems have contributed to collapses of civilizations. A new paper published yesterday in Proceedings of the Royal Society B addresses the likelihood that we are facing a global collapse now. The paper concludes that global society can avoid this and recommends that social and natural scientists collaborate on research to develop ways to stimulate a significant increase in popular support for decisive and immediate action on our predicament.
Paul and Anne Ehrlich’s paper provides a comprehensive description of the damaging effects of escalating climate disruption, overpopulation, overconsumption, pole-to-pole distribution of dangerous toxic chemicals, poor technology choices, depletion of resources including water, soils, and biodiversity essential to food production, and other problems currently threatening global environment and society. The problems are not separate, but are complex, interact, and feed on each other.
The authors say serious environmental problems can only be solved and a collapse avoided with unprecedented levels of international cooperation through multiple civil and political organizations. They conclude that if that does not happen, nature will restructure civilization for us.
In a statement on his website, HRH The Prince of Wales has reacted to the paper, agreeing, “We do, in fact, have all the tools, assets and knowledge to avoid the collapse of which this report warns, but only if we act decisively now. If, though, in our evermore interconnected and complex world, we are to succeed, real leadership and vision is required. It is just possible that we can rise to this challenge, but to do so we will need to adjust our world view in a profound and comprehensive way. We have to see ourselves as utterly embedded in Nature and not somehow separate from those precious systems that sustain all life. I have said it before, and I will say it again – our grandchildren’s future depends entirely on whether we seize the initiative and prevaricate no further.”
“bring out the clowns” Paul Erlich is an proven idiot period. I’m happy to see this jackwagon is still at it since refuting him is like shooting fish in a glass barrel. As for HRH his every utterance makes the case for a skip in generations. De-funding the organizations they write of is a high priority.
Unfortunately, there has only been a collapse in the careful science that the Royal Society is famed for.
Theyt are pushing so hard for a one world government, and a mark bywhich nobody may buy or sell without the mark. Dangerous times are comming.
” Disaster Movie ”
sounds more like a Royal sit-com
Nullius in verba eh …I’ll go along with that. The esteemed Charles really ought to get back to what he is good at, eg raising contented herds of cattle and growing rhubarb.
Prevaricate:
Speak or act in an evasive way: “he prevaricated when journalists asked questions”.
So he advises Hisself to seize the initiative provided by The Erlichs Chorus and stop being evasive.about intentions
Can a collapse of global civilization be avoided? Don’t be such a dunderhead, Paul Erhlich. China will not collapse. India will not collapse. It is WESTERN civilization that is likely to fall apart.
As for Prince Charles….he and his mother have overseen the collapse of a great world power. In our lifetimes we may see England basically vanish from the map, leaving only the legacy of its language (and its thought), and the mystery of how such a great nation could have fallen so far so swiftly.
And Charles wants to advise others????? Ha!!!!!
Sales 101: create a sense of urgency.
How is it that an entomologist losing his mind to a Malthusian nightmare becomes, remains, or can possibly be an esteemed scientist with an attic full of awards? Had he been born just a little earlier his life would have ended swimming in the surf on a Brazilian beach under an assumed name. But here he is. Decked out like a adle-minded Russian Count buckling under the wieght of international fame and money. These are indeed interesting times.
Martin Clark says on January 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm:
“The esteemed Charles really ought to get back to what he is good at, eg raising contented herds of cattle and growing rhubarb.”
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He can talk to the trees too you know – and they are good listeners as they keep stum when he speaks. – Shame he now wants to restrict their CO2 intake —-.
One world government movements out of Britain:
Cecil Rhodes (Last will, search for “secret society”:)
http://archive.org/stream/lastwilltestamen00rhodiala#page/196/mode/2up/search/secret+society
Later: The Fabians
Shaw , revealed that their goal was to be achieved by “stealth, intrigue, subversion, and the deception of never calling Socialism by its right name.
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=FinalWarning&C=5.1
including H G Welles as their propaganda chief, later quit and wrote “The Open Conspiracy”
Both Rhodes’ and The Fabians megalomaniac fantasies trace back to Ruskin, a pedophile professor of Fine Arts.
“The aims of the Fabian Society were developed by Webb from what Englishman John Ruskin (1819-1900) taught at Oxford University. Ruskin, a teacher at the Working Men’s College (founded in 1854 by Christian-Socialist philosopher J. F. D. Maurice), a professor of Fine Arts at Oxford, an artist and writer, based his views on those of Socialist Robert Owen. He advocated a utopian society, and espoused theories developed from the teachings of Plato (428-347 BC), who had studied under Socrates, and became the greatest philosopher in history.
Plato established an academy which operated for 800 years, producing many great men, including Aristotle. In his work, The Republic, he outlined his ideal society, which was an aristocratic society ruled by the elite. It included the elimination of marriage and the family, and introduced selective breeding by the government which would destroy all inferior offspring. In Plato’s utopia, sexual equality dictated that women would fight alongside the men in times of war.”
It is IMHO likely that Prince Charles was and is influenced by this highly mad “intellectual” UK movement, as it is active to this day (the Fabians still run the Labour party).
Caleb says:
January 11, 2013 at 4:35 pm
“In our lifetimes we may see England basically vanish from the map, leaving only the legacy of its language (and its thought), and the mystery of how such a great nation could have fallen so far so swiftly.”
Not a mistery. A planned transformation; planned by the Fabians. It’s documented.
WE have the knowledge, Charlie-boy, but you clearly don’t. WE are the assets, and WE no longer regard ouselves as your tool-kit. YOU are the tool. A complete and utter tool. A tool amongst tools. A tool for all seasons.
And, by-the-way, you don’t even have any grandchildren yet, unless there’s some Fitz-Tool you haven’t yet owned up to.
What bothers me is if we are going into a cooling period, the Ehrlichs will just go back to where they left off with their global cooling into an imminent ice age in the 1970s and death of most of the world by starvation. I wish some knowledgeable sceptics would take the initiative and predict the changes we can expect from global cooling (essentially an increase in extreme weather- looking back 60 years or so for guidance). If not, it will be welcomed by the doomsters tying it all to CO2 as they have recently begun to do and this time they will get the predictions right for the wrong reasons – there’s a nightmare for sceptics.
Well, now they come out and tell us what they wish to do to us, I predict their civilization will end, why not they have done everything they can think of to destroy our communities and society.
Parasites do tend to wither and starve, when their hosts cast them off. These regulator and administrator classes are parasites, have shown how dangerous and unnecessary they are to civilization as I know it.
Oh were it so easy but alas not so. Our most pressing societal problems have nothing to do with climate and everything to do with greed, avers, True Belief and our willingness to listen to all these demigods.
Seems full of contradictory rhetoric:
“If, … we are to succeed, real leadership and vision is required.” = One world dictator, i.e. top-down control.
“We have to see ourselves as utterly embedded in Nature and not somehow separate from those precious systems that sustain all life.” = Let man in this world be subject to bottom-up contraints.
Now which is it?
There are only two possible conclusions that can be drawn about people like the leaders of the Royal Society:
– either they are frauds, posing as scientists, lacking any knowledge or training in the scientific method, otherwise they would relent on their belief and accede that their position is unsustainable
– or this is not about science for them, and they are cynically using their position to argue from authority, in order to sell their world view and politics
In both cases – they abandon the title of scientist and take on new titles: activist and ignoramus.
Thanks, Anthony. I was going to write up the latest adventures of the famous failed serial doomcasters, Anne and Paul Ehrlich … but my stomach wouldn’t take it, even the Dramamine didn’t help. So I’m glad you did it.
As for Prince Charles, he’s about as good a climate scientist as he is an artist. He had a showing of his paintings here in San Francisco. A local art critic wrote it up under the title “The Artist Currently Known As Prince” … the critic tried to be kind.
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Unfortunately the most learned Royal Society has form in the field of concentrated pompous arrogance at its most senior levels having had the honour to have as one of its Presidents, one of the greatest of scientists, Lord Kelvin, President of the Society in 1895 who is reported to have declared “Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.” Why ? – presumably for no other reason than because he said so!.
Where did his ignorance lie – firstly he was totally ignorant of ‘aerodynamics of the wing’; but even worse, he was blind to the possibility of there being a field of physical science of which he was not aware!
The honourable Lord followed up that gem with this one to an assemblage of physicists at the British Association for the Advancement of Science in 1900 in which he stated, “There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.
Oh, and as to the Royal Society’s Motto –
“Nullius in verba” – (“Take no one’s word for it”.)
Which claims the Society – “ is an expression of the determination of Fellows to withstand the domination of authority and to verify all statements by an appeal to facts determined by experiment”.
Yes, quite so. Time for a new motto?- perhaps ‘Incumbo inflatus superbia’
As to his Royal Highness – I do hope we do not skip a generation; it’s just the succession Australia needs to go Republic!
“…our grandchildren’s future depends entirely on whether we seize the initiative and prevaricate no further.”
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Why do I doubt that Prince Charles cares much for our grandchildren? Maybe it’s because the nut doesn’t fall far from the tree, and his father is reported to have said, “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”
The best way to slow population growth is to reduce the use of fossil fuels and turn food into energy. No wonder Prince Charles and the Ehrlichs want to double-down on such foolishness. They are the biggest threat to our grandchildren, not global warming.
troe says:
January 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm
“bring out the clowns” Paul Erlich is an proven idiot period. I’m happy to see this jackwagon is still at it since refuting him is like shooting fish in a glass barrel. As for HRH his every utterance makes the case for a skip in generations. De-funding the organizations they write of is a high priority.
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The UN and the IPCC have been corrupt forever… they both need to go.. pronto
they most certainly need to be defunded and disbanded.
The sun has set on the English Empire!
Martin Clark, Charlie Boy, heir to the throne, is not good at anything. He is an idiot and a dimwit. I hope his mother outlives him.
NOAA programmer, I like your nom de plume.