From the journal Earth System Dynamics billed as “An Interactive Open Access Journal of the European Geosciences Union” comes this paper which suggests that the posited AGW forcing effects simply isn’t statistically significant in the observations, but other natural forcings are.
“…We show that although these anthropogenic forcings share a common stochastic trend, this trend is empirically independent of the stochastic trend in temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, greenhouse gas forcing, aerosols, solar irradiance and global temperature are not polynomially cointegrated. This implies that recent global warming is not statistically significantly related to anthropogenic forcing. On the other hand, we find that greenhouse gas forcing might have had a temporary effect on global temperature.”
This is a most interesting paper, and potentially a bombshell, because they have taken virtually all of the significant observational datasets (including GISS and BEST) along with solar irradiance from Lean and Rind, and CO2, CH4, N2O, aerosols, and even water vapor data and put them all to statistical tests (including Lucia’s favorite, the unit root test) against forcing equations. Amazingly, it seems that they have almost entirely ruled out anthropogenic forcing in the observational data, but allowing for the possibility they could be wrong, say:
“…our rejection of AGW is not absolute; it might be a false positive, and we cannot rule out the possibility that recent global warming has an anthropogenic footprint. However, this possibility is very small, and is not statistically significant at conventional levels.”
I expect folks like Tamino (aka Grant Foster) and other hotheaded statistics wonks will begin an attack on why their premise and tests are no good, but at the same time I look for other less biased stats folks to weigh in and see how well it holds up. My sense of this is that the authors of Beenstock et al have done a pretty good job of ruling out ways they may have fooled themselves. My thanks to Andre Bijkerk and Joanna Ballard for bringing this paper to my attention on Facebook.
The abstract and excerpts from the paper, along with link to the full PDF follows.
Polynomial cointegration tests of anthropogenic impact on global warming
M. Beenstock1, Y. Reingewertz1, and N. Paldor2
1Department of Economics, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Mount Scopus Campus, Jerusalem, Israel
2Fredy and Nadine Institute of Earth Sciences, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Edmond J. Safra campus, Givat Ram, Jerusalem, Israel
Abstract.
We use statistical methods for nonstationary time series to test the anthropogenic interpretation of global warming (AGW), according to which an increase in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations raised global temperature in the 20th century. Specifically, the methodology of polynomial cointegration is used to test AGW since during the observation period (1880–2007) global temperature and solar irradiance are stationary in 1st differences whereas greenhouse gases and aerosol forcings are stationary in 2nd differences. We show that although these anthropogenic forcings share a common stochastic trend, this trend is empirically independent of the stochastic trend in temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, greenhouse gas forcing, aerosols, solar irradiance and global temperature are not polynomially cointegrated. This implies that recent global warming is not statistically significantly related to anthropogenic forcing. On the other hand, we find that greenhouse gas forcing might have had a temporary effect on global temperature.
Introduction
Considering the complexity and variety of the processes that affect Earth’s climate, it is not surprising that a completely satisfactory and accepted account of all the changes that oc- curred in the last century (e.g. temperature changes in the vast area of the Tropics, the balance of CO2 input into the atmosphere, changes in aerosol concentration and size and changes in solar radiation) has yet to be reached (IPCC, AR4, 2007). Of particular interest to the present study are those processes involved in the greenhouse effect, whereby some of the longwave radiation emitted by Earth is re-absorbed by some of the molecules that make up the atmosphere, such as (in decreasing order of importance): water vapor, car- bon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (IPCC, 2007). Even though the most important greenhouse gas is water vapor, the dynamics of its flux in and out of the atmosphere by evaporation, condensation and subsequent precipitation are not understood well enough to be explicitly and exactly quantified. While much of the scientific research into the causes of global warming has been carried out using calibrated gen- eral circulation models (GCMs), since 1997 a new branch of scientific inquiry has developed in which observations of climate change are tested statistically by the method of cointegration (Kaufmann and Stern, 1997, 2002; Stern and Kauf- mann, 1999, 2000; Kaufmann et al., 2006a,b; Liu and Ro- driguez, 2005; Mills, 2009). The method of cointegration, developed in the closing decades of the 20th century, is intended to test for the spurious regression phenomena in non-stationary time series (Phillips, 1986; Engle and Granger, 1987). Non-stationarity arises when the sample moments of a time series (mean, variance, covariance) depend on time. Regression relationships are spurious1 when unrelated non- stationary time series appear to be significantly correlated be- cause they happen to have time trends.
The method of cointegration has been successful in detecting spurious relationships in economic time series data.
Indeed, cointegration has become the standard econometric tool for testing hypotheses with nonstationary data (Maddala, 2001; Greene, 2012). As noted, climatologists too have used cointegration to analyse nonstationary climate data (Kauf- mann and Stern, 1997). Cointegration theory is based on the simple notion that time series might be highly correlated even though there is no causal relation between them. For the relation to be genuine, the residuals from a regression between these time series must be stationary, in which case the time series are “cointegrated”. Since stationary residuals mean- revert to zero, there must be a genuine long-term relationship between the series, which move together over time because they share a common trend. If on the other hand, the resid- uals are nonstationary, the residuals do not mean-revert to zero, the time series do not share a common trend, and the relationship between them is spurious because the time series are not cointegrated. Indeed, the R2 from a regression between nonstationary time series may be as high as 0.99, yet the relation may nonetheless be spurious.
The method of cointegration originally developed by En- gle and Granger (1987) assumes that the nonstationary data are stationary in changes, or first-differences. For example, temperature might be increasing over time, and is there- fore nonstationary, but the change in temperature is station- ary. In the 1990s cointegration theory was extended to the case in which some of the variables have to be differenced twice (i.e. the time series of the change in the change) be- fore they become stationary. This extension is commonly known as polynomial cointegration. Previous analyses of the non-stationarity of climatic time series (e.g. Kaufmann and Stern, 2002; Kaufmann et al., 2006a; Stern and Kaufmann, 1999) have demonstrated that global temperature and solar irradiance are stationary in first differences, whereas green- house gases (GHG, hereafter) are stationary in second differ- ences. In the present study we apply the method of polyno- mial cointegration to test the hypothesis that global warming since 1850 was caused by various anthropogenic phenom- ena. Our results show that GHG forcings and other anthropogenic phenomena do not polynomially cointegrate with global temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, despite the high correlation between anthropogenic forcings, solar irradiance and global temperature, AGW is not statistically significant. The perceived statistical relation between tem- perature and anthropogenic forcings is therefore a spurious regression phenomenon.
Data and methods
We use annual data (1850–2007) on greenhouse gas (CO2, CH4 and N2O) concentrations and forcings, as well as on forcings for aerosols (black carbon, reflective tropospheric aerosols). We also use annual data (1880–2007) on solar irradiance, water vapor (1880–2003) and global mean tem- perature (sea and land combined 1880–2007). These widely used secondary data are obtained from NASA-GISS (Hansen et al., 1999, 2001). Details of these data may be found in the Data Appendix.
We carry out robustness checks using new reconstructions for solar irradiance from Lean and Rind (2009), for globally averaged temperature from Mann et al. (2008) and for global land surface temperature (1850–2007) from the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Study.
Key time series are shown in Fig. 1 where panels a and b show the radiative forcings for three major GHGs, while panel c shows solar irradiance and global temperature. All these variables display positive time trends. However, the time trends in panels a and b appear more nonlinear than their counterparts in panel c. Indeed, statistical tests reported be- low reveal that the trends in panel c are linear, whereas the trends in panels a and b are quadratic. The trend in solar irradiance weakened since 1970, while the trend in temperature weakened temporarily in the 1950s and 1960s.
The statistical analysis of nonstationary time series, such as those in Fig. 1, has two natural stages. The first consists of unit root tests in which the data are classified by their order and type of nonstationarity. If the data are nonstationary, sample moments such as means, variances and co- variances depend upon when the data are sampled, in which event least squares and maximum likelihood estimates of parameters may be spurious. In the second stage, these nonstationary data are used to test hypotheses using the method of cointegration, which is designed to distinguish between genuine and spurious relationships between time series. Since these methods may be unfamiliar to readers of Earth System Dynamics, we provide an overview of key concepts and tests.
Fig. 1. Time series of the changes that occurred in several variables that affect or represent climate changes during the 20th century. a) Radiative forcings (rf, in units of W m−2) during 1880 to 2007 of CH4 (methane) and CO2 (carbon dioxide); (b) same period as in panel a but for Nitrous-Oxide (N2O); (c) solar irradiance (left ordinate, units of W m−2) and annual global temperature (right ordinate, units of ◦C) during 1880–2003.
[…]
3 Results
3.1 Time series properties of the data
Informal inspection of Fig. 1 suggests that the time series properties of greenhouse gas forcings (panels a and b) are visibly different to those for temperature and solar irradiance (panel c). In panels a and b there is evidence of acceleration, whereas in panel c the two time series appear more stable. In Fig. 2 we plot rfCO2 in first differences, which confirms by eye that rfCO2 is not I (1), particularly since 1940. Similar figures are available for other greenhouse gas forcings. In this section we establish the important result that whereas the first differences of temperature and solar irradiance are trend free, the first differences of the greenhouse gas forcings are not. This is consistent with our central claim that anthropogenic forcings are I (2), whereas temperature and solar irradiance are I (1).
Fig. 2. Time series of the first differences of rfCO2.
What we see informally is born out by the formal statistical tests for the variables in Table 1.
Although the KPSS and DF-type statistics (ADF, PP and DF-GLS) test different null hypotheses, we successively increase d until they concur. If they concur when d = 1, we classify the variable as I (1), or difference stationary. For the anthropogenic variables concurrence occurs when d = 2. Since the DF-type tests and the KPSS tests reject that these variables are I (1) but do not reject that they are I (2), there is no dilemma here. Matters might have been different if according to the DF-type tests these anthropogenic variables are I (1) but according to KPSS they are I (2).
The required number of augmentations for ADF is moot. The frequently used Schwert criterion uses a standard formula based solely on the number of observations, which is inefficient because it may waste degrees of freedom. As mentioned, we prefer instead to augment the ADF test until its residuals become serially independent according to a la- grange multiplier (LM) test. In most cases 4 augmentations are needed, however, in the cases of rfCO2, rfN2O and stratospheric H2O 8 augmentations are needed. In any case, the classification is robust with respect to augmentations in the range of 2–10. Therefore, we do not think that the number of augmentations affects our classifications. The KPSS and Phillips–Perron statistics use the standard nonparametric Newey-West criteria for calculating robust standard errors. In practice we find that these statistics use about 4 autocorrelations, which is similar to our LM procedure for determining the number of augmentations for ADF.
[…]
Discussion
We have shown that anthropogenic forcings do not polynomially cointegrate with global temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, data for 1880–2007 do not support the anthropogenic interpretation of global warming during this period. This key result is shown graphically in Fig. 3 where the vertical axis measures the component of global temperature that is unexplained by solar irradiance according to our estimates. In panel a the horizontal axis measures the anomaly in the anthropogenic trend when the latter is derived from forcings of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. In panel b the horizontal axis measures this anthropogenic anomaly when apart from these greenhouse gas forcings, it includes tropospheric aerosols and black carbon. Panels a and b both show that there is no relationship between temperature and the anthropogenic anomaly, once the warming effect of solar irradiance is taken into consideration.
However, we find that greenhouse gas forcings might have a temporary effect on global temperature. This result is illustrated in panel c of Fig. 3 in which the horizontal axis measures the change in the estimated anthropogenic trend. Panel c clearly shows that there is a positive relationship between temperature and the change in the anthropogenic anomaly once the warming effect of solar irradiance is taken into consideration.
Fig. 3. Statistical association between (scatter plot of) anthropogenic anomaly (abscissa), and net temperature effect (i.e. temperature minus the estimated solar irradiance effect; ordinates). Panels (a)–(c) display the results of the models presented in models 1 and 2 in Table 3 and Eq. (13), respectively. The anthropogenic trend anomaly sums the weighted radiative forcings of the greenhouse gases (CO2, CH4 and N2O). The calculation of the net temperature effect (as defined above) change is calculated by subtracting from the observed temperature in a specific year the product of the solar irradiance in that year times the coefficient obtained from the regression of the particular model equation: 1.763 in the case of model 1 (a); 1.806 in the case of model 2 (b); and 1.508 in the case of Eq. (13) (c).
Currently, most of the evidence supporting AGW theory is obtained by calibration methods and the simulation of GCMs. Calibration shows, e.g. Crowley (2000), that to explain the increase in temperature in the 20th century, and especially since 1970, it is necessary to specify a sufficiently strong anthropogenic effect. However, calibrators do not re- port tests for the statistical significance of this effect, nor do they check whether the effect is spurious. The implication of our results is that the permanent effect is not statistically significant. Nevertheless, there seems to be a temporary anthropogenic effect. If the effect is temporary rather than permanent, a doubling, say, of carbon emissions would have no long-run effect on Earth’s temperature, but it would in- crease it temporarily for some decades. Indeed, the increase in temperature during 1975–1995 and its subsequent stability are in our view related in this way to the acceleration in carbon emissions during the second half of the 20th century (Fig. 2). The policy implications of this result are major since an effect which is temporary is less serious than one that is permanent.
The fact that since the mid 19th century Earth’s temperature is unrelated to anthropogenic forcings does not contravene the laws of thermodynamics, greenhouse theory, or any other physical theory. Given the complexity of Earth’s climate, and our incomplete understanding of it, it is difficult to attribute to carbon emissions and other anthropogenic phenomena the main cause for global warming in the 20th century. This is not an argument about physics, but an argument about data interpretation. Do climate developments during the relatively recent past justify the interpretation that global warming was induced by anthropogenics during this period? Had Earth’s temperature not increased in the 20th century despite the increase in anthropogenic forcings (as was the case during the second half of the 19th century), this would not have constituted evidence against greenhouse theory. However, our results challenge the data interpretation that since 1880 global warming was caused by anthropogenic phenomena.
Nor does the fact that during this period anthropogenic forcings are I (2), i.e. stationary in second differences, whereas Earth’s temperature and solar irradiance are I (1), i.e. stationary in first differences, contravene any physical theory. For physical reasons it might be expected that over the millennia these variables should share the same order of integration; they should all be I (1) or all I (2), otherwise there would be persistent energy imbalance. However, during the last 150 yr there is no physical reason why these variables should share the same order of integration. However, the fact that they do not share the same order of integration over this period means that scientists who make strong interpretations about the anthropogenic causes of recent global warming should be cautious. Our polynomial cointegration tests challenge their interpretation of the data.
Finally, all statistical tests are probabilistic and depend on the specification of the model. Type 1 error refers to the probability of rejecting a hypothesis when it is true (false positive) and type 2 error refers to the probability of not rejecting a hypothesis when it is false (false negative). In our case the type 1 error is very small because anthropogenic forcing is I (1) with very low probability, and temperature is polynomially cointegrated with very low probability. Also we have experimented with a variety of model specifications and estimation methodologies. This means, however, that as with all hypotheses, our rejection of AGW is not absolute; it might be a false positive, and we cannot rule out the possibility that recent global warming has an anthropogenic footprint. However, this possibility is very small, and is not statistically significant at conventional levels.
Full paper: http://www.earth-syst-dynam.net/3/173/2012/esd-3-173-2012.pdf
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Philip Shehan: I would also like to point out that nowhere in this analysis do I assert that there is a cause and effect relationship between time and temperature, still less a cause and effect relationship between greenhouse gas concentration and temperature.
I didn’t say you did. I said that you asserted there was an increase in the rate of change based on an inadequate analysis. In no way did you justify the claim that the exponential fit was the best.
Here is what you said: Informal inspection of the temperature data of panel c does show acceleration, matching that of the greenhouse gas forcing plots in a and b. The temperature rise appears less dramatic due to different scaling factors used in the 3 plots, but the acceleration of the temperature in the last 40 years compared to the previous 80 is clear to the naked eye. This is confirmed by a formal fit of temperature data to a nonlinear equation.
OK, you found a fit that confirmed your impression. Other people find different fits that confirm their impressions. In no way can you claim to have found a better fit, only that you found a fit that confirmed your impression. Besides, you cherry-picked your cut-off (80 vs 40 years); you can show by model fitting (others have done this plenty of times) that the late 20th century warming has almost the same rate of change as the early 20th century warming; in fact, piecewise linear fitting with knots chosen post-hoc [that is, chosen by the “naked eye”] provides the best fit.
Having a great deal of experience in analysing data in this way, I found the assertion by the authors in the caption to the figure untenable.
So far, so good. Then you made another untenable assertion that you claimed was superior. All you really did was show that a different conclusion follows from a different dubious model fit, based on a different cherry-picked segmentation of the time series. Anyone with experience in analyzing time series data can tell that there is no good evidence for an accelerated rate of warming.
D Böehm says:
January 6, 2013 at 5:57 am
Shehan’s comments are just stupid – fitting an arbitrary polynomial to data with inhomogeneous error distribution. There is no physical basis for it, and the error bars on the data increase the farther you go back in time to the point that they are useless for anything but spurious polemics, particularly in the era before 1900 or so. His purpose isn’t to enlighten, only to annoy. The only thing he is succeeding at is illustrating the weakness of the warmists’ feeble arguments. Don’t rise to the bait. Nobody is paying any attention anyway.
D. Boehm accuses me of descending into ad hominem attacks after calling me a liar in his
first comment to me (D Böehm says: January 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm). Others who have had a somewhat sneering tone in their remarks to me have received polite responses.
My first response to D Boehm’s accusation that I am a liar was to put this question to him and later repeated when in none of his subsequent responses has he been willing to provide an answer. So, for the third time:
If a 15 or 10 year period can be extracted from the data and held to be representative of the period 1880 to 2007 presented in figure 1 c, (which is what all his objections to my analysis boil down to) why does he not use the data for 1940 from 1955 to declare that temperatures between 1880 to the present have been falling?
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp-dts/from:1940/to:1955/plot/gistemp-dts/from:1940/to:1955/trend
So how about it Mr Boehm?
Matthew R Marler.
I did not claim that an exponential fit is best, I merely said that the non linear fit to the temperature data here
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/AMTI.png
was superior to a linear fit for that period thoughtfully provided by Mr Boehm.
http://tinyurl.com/af5xwmv
With regards to D.Boehms assertion that the non linear fit is a “dishonest cartoon” that is somehow incompatible with temperature data from the data from Hadcrut 4 and UAH, the temperature data in that fit is an averaging of 10 temperature data sets:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SummaryTable.png
which includes and is essentially the same as the two data sets Boehm uses in his plot. The nonlinear computer fit is as valid as the linear computer fit Boehm applies, making Boehms plot no more or no less a cartoon that the nonlinear graph.
Unfortunately no correlation coefficient is provided in the latter plot.
If it helps people to make an objective comparison of the two plots just forget that we are talking about the charged topic of global temperatures here, but imagine the data is for stock prices or the Norwegian lemming population.
Now look at the linear fit of Boehm’s data. If you can’t see the curve in your mind’s eye look at how the earlier and data is mostly above the blue line which is in line with the central section. Boehm has thoughtfully provided parallel lines above and below the fit which aid here by showing that the data curve below the purple line going through the early and late data, and curving away from the lower blue line at the earlier and later sections.
OK so I have over three decades experience in analyzing this kind of data, but I can’t believe that an objective untrained eye cannot tell that the non linear fir is superior.
Mathew Marler says to Shehan:
“Anyone with experience in analyzing time series data can tell that there is no good evidence for an accelerated rate of warming.”
Bart says about Shehan:
“Shehan’s comments are just stupid – fitting an arbitrary polynomial to data with inhomogeneous error distribution. There is no physical basis for it…”
What bothers me is this deceptive chart that Shehan repeatedly posts in an effort to show [non-existent] acceleration in global warming. That fabricated chart is a typical SkS invention. It does not reflect the real world. As regular WUWT readers know, people can lie with charts just like they can lie with statistics. Dishonest data manipulation is SkS’s stock in trade.
For a chart that shows what is really happening, this Phil Jones chart covers the same time frame. We can see that there is no acceleration of natural global warming, only that there are almost identical step rises in global temperature. Those rises are not geometric, and they show the same rate of warming whether CO2 was low or high. Thus, CO2 has had no measurable effect on natural global warming.
Given the choice of believing John Cook’s cartoon chart, or Phil Jones’ data-based chart, it is no contest. I have Climategate questions about Phil Jones, but comparing Jones’ data and methodology with Cook’s deception is night and day.
D Boehm once again refuses to deal with the 1880 to the 2007 data set as a whole, the analysis of which by the authors of the paper is what i have been discussing, preferring to present carefully selected stretches of data which he claims represent the whole, but yet again has refused to answer my question as to why the data set from 1940 to 1955 should not be used to conclude that there has been a linear drop in temperature since 1880.
His continuing silence on this point is deafening.
He has failed to explain in the light of earlier post he is still maintainng that the non linear fit using essentially the same data as his own plots is “deceptive” and continues in this vein:
“Given the choice of believing John Cook’s cartoon chart, or Phil Jones’ data-based chart, it is no contest.”
This is in spite of my posting of the temperature data sets on whch the “cartoon chart” is based and every bit as valid (if not moreso being an average of 10 data sets, including Jones’).
Then there is his complaint where he compares apples with oranges, complaining that an “arbitrary” baseline for temperature record calculated from the mean temperature which thus shows the temperature anomalies above and below the line and by definition is flat is “deceptive” while a line representing something else entirely, the slope of the data is not.
Now D. Boehm is a sensitive soul. In spite of starting out by calling me a liar and continuing in that vein including opining that my living off the public teat doing research into methods of the early detection and treatment of cancer somehow invalidates my professional expertise, he objects to ad hominem attacks (on himself). It therefore pains me to state that his above post, in line with his previous efforts, reveals him to a scientifically illiterate idiot.
I politely responded to Mr Marler’s critique above.
I let Bart’s slide but if could he explain to me why an arbitrary selection of a linear function as opposed to a non linear function ovecomes his objection about “inhomogeneous error distribution. There is no physical basis for it…”
This is the only substantive claim made in a post of nothing else but name calling. He is one of a number of posters here who have not engaged the debate but have warned others to ignore or not be seduced by my slick but fraudulent arguments, and who know by some powers of esp that no-one is reading them anyway.
Philip Shehan:
Your illogical assertions have been refuted – repeatedly and by several people – in this thread, but you continue with your blather.
Your most recent bloviation is at January 6, 2013 at 7:38 pm and begins saying
Nobody has been silent on that, but you persist in being deaf to the refutation of your nonsense.
If the trend is – as you claim – “accelerating” then successive sub-sets of the data set should show increasing trends. THEY DON’T. Indeed, the most recent ~16 years show no statistically significant (at 2-sigma) rise at all; none, zilch, nada.
You present the entire data series with an arbitrary curve that has no physical reality and say;
“See, the curve is increasing”.
Others reply to you saying, “So what? That curve has no physical reality”.
Your response has been to say, over and over again, “But the curve is increasing”.
The recent stasis is a physical reality.
It shows the trend has DECELERATED to zero over the most recent ~16years.
That is not consistent with your assertion of the trend accelerating.
The only deafness is yours, and it seems to be deliberate.
Richard
Philip Shehan is involved in cancer research at the University of Melbourne.
I am now resolved to eat more fruit and vegetables.
It is amusing watching Shehan impotently demanding that he should be allowed to frame this discussion. Me, I don’t care about his personal issues. What I care about is Shehan’s mendacious claim that global temperatures are accelerating upward. As I have shown in numerous charts, based on many different data bases, global temperatures are not only not accelerating, they have been flat to declining for quite a few years now despite the rise in harmless, beneficial CO2.
I suspected it would come to this eventually: faced with solid empirical evidence and verifiable observations showing conclusively that global temperatures have been flat to declining, a few of the less ethical alarmists would decide to simply lie about it, and claim that global temperatures are accelerating upward. Cook and Shehan continue to repeat that untruth. But as long as they do, I will be here to set the record straight.
As for the rest of Shehan’s nonsense, including his cherry-picked data set that ends in 2007… Pf-f-f-ft.
To the critics:
I am not framing the discussion. The authors of the paper are. I did not cherry pick the a data set that ends in 2007 (…Pft-f-f-ft). The authors of the paper did, and proceeded to make a statement about their “cherry picked” data set from 1880 to 2007 and its graphical presentation in Figure 1 C They then frame the interpretation of their “cherry picked” data set:
“Informal inspection of Fig. 1 suggests that the time series properties of greenhouse gas forcings (panels a and b) are visibly different to those for temperature and solar irradiance (panel c). In panels a and b there is evidence of acceleration, whereas in panel c the two time series appear more stable.”
They have thus framed the discussion in terms of a comparison of curve 1c with the accelerating curves in panels a and b.
The fitting of an accelerating curve to the data in 1 c is therefore in no way arbitrary. It is how the authors have framed the discussion.
My point is entirely a comment on the authors assertion – that the data from from 1880 to 2007 in panel 1 c is not well fit by an accelerating curve. It is, and none of the attempts by people like D. Boehm and others who wish to reframe the authors claims to their liking can alter this single fact:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/AMTI.png
Philip Shehan:
Please accept some sincere advice.
You are wrong. Everybody can see you are wrong. If you cannot see you are wrong then you are deluding yourself so you need to step back and review the situation.
Your latest post January 7, 2013 at 12:35 pm is nothing short of silly. Please read it and see if you can recognise the blatant logical flaw which it contains. If you cannot see why it is flawed then ask somebody you trust to point it out to you.
Continuing as you are can only make you look even more foolish.
Richard
richardscourtney, Thank you for your sincere advice. I have an equally sincere request. I cannot see the blatant logical flaw in my my 12.35 post. Please point it out to me.
D Böehm says:
January 5, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Phil says:
“CO2 levels rise because of combustion emissions into the atmosphere with a small modulation due to temperature, your own graphs show this!”
Wrong again, and you are alone here in making that claim. The Wood For Trees chart I posted shows very clearly that ∆CO2 follows ∆T. Here is another chart that shows the same thing: ∆T causes ∆CO2.
Meaningless nonsense as usual, try being scientific and adding the actual scale for the CO2. As Ferdinand and I have pointed out multiple times the temperature change is insufficient to cause such a large change in CO2, only about 10% of it!
Richard Courtney,
I suspect that your good advice will fall on deaf ears. Once again, Shehan posts his thoroughly mendacious SkS chart, the cartoon chart fabricated by John Cook that dishonestly shows rapidly accelerating global temperatures. That is simply not happening. Compare that dishonest chart with what is actually occurring:
click1 [hadcrut3 and hadcrut4]
click2 [CET long term trend]
click3 [six separate data bases, from 2000]
click4 [hadcrut3, land temps]
click5 [ocean temps]
click6 [global satellite temps, various altitudes]
click7 [three U.S. data sets]
click8 [global mean T anomaly]
click9 [global surface vs models]
click10 [CO2: no T acceleration]
click11 [actual trend line vs IPCC’s predicted acceleration]
click12 [US temps, zero predicted acceleration]
click13 [global temps vs CO2]
click14 [CO2 vs global temps]
click15 [Temp vs CO2, past 17 years]
Shehan is peddling dishonest propaganda. There is no current acceleration of global warming, as numerous difference observations show. Also, note that John Cook’s SkS blog has it’s own special category: “Unreliable”.
That is because Cook alters the comments of skeptics to mean something entirely different than what they posted, and he does it without any comment. He just completely changes the meaning of the comments, and leaves the comment under the name of the person who made it. Dishonest, no? So why would anyone expect Cook to produce an honest chart?
Shehan is either dishonest or deluded. But by now I trust that other WUWT readers will see that there is no acceleration of the long term global warming trend, which has been rising at the same rate since the end of the LIA. And thus, CO2 has no measurable effect on global warming. It is merely a false alarm intended to generate grant money, which has been flowing into ‘climate studies’ at the rate of $7 – $* Billion annually. Big money is buying the global warming scare.
@Philip Shehan
Here is HadSST2 and a fitted 3rd order polynomial. Here are the (obviously non stationary) residuals. This model fails to explain anything about last 15 years (or anything prior).
Phil.,
Don’t be silly. This chart shows clearly that T controls CO2, and not just “10%” of it.
Philip Shehan:
I thought my advice would be an encouragement for you to obtain the help of your friends. But you say (in your post at January 7, 2013 at 1:56 pm) that you lack friends to help you.
Clearly, if I had known of your lack I would not have made such a cruel suggestion, and I hope you will accept my apology for having made such a hurtful mistake.
Perhaps if you were to be more open to accepting advice on WUWT then you may obtain some friends from it. Importantly, the practice at such openness on WUWT may gain you the ability to interact with those around you because it seems likely that your behaviour (as exhibited on this thread) is probably a major contributing factor in your ability to obtain and/or keep friends.
And in the hope of offering friendship, I respond to your request in your post at January 7, 2013 at 1:56 pm which says
I answer that in your post at January 7, 2013 at 12:35 pm you wrote
You then addressed the issue by providing a different and dubious data set without any explanation of how and why the “framing” of the authors was incorrect.
Simply you said the the authors of the paper framed the discussion by using specific data then you reframed the discussion by using different data.
Your reframing could hypothetically be justified by explanation of how and why their “framing” was incorrect and yours was correct. But you did not do that: you changed the subject. Your change of subject is a
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I hope this answer – especially its first three paragraphs – helps.
Richard
Phil:
At January 7, 2013 at 2:25 pm you assert
Yes, and as I have repeatedly pointed out you cannot know that.
You are ‘blowing smoke’.
Anything which alters the equilibrium state of the carbon cycle will change the CO2 in the air, and it is not possible to know by how much or at what rate.
Richard
Layman Lurker,
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I will no longer have to put up with the nonsense comments from D. Boehm like the one above:
“Once again, Shehan posts his thoroughly mendacious SkS chart, the cartoon chart fabricated by John Cook that dishonestly shows rapidly accelerating global temperatures.”
From here on in I will use your plot of HadSST2 fitted to a 3rd order polynomial, and let him blow raspberries at that one.
I thus represent it here
http://tinyurl.com/acr6opb
for direct comparison with the data set for 1850 to the present personally selected by D. Boehm in his post of 2:46 pm January4, with a linear data fit:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bg6mgjp
Yours in eternal gratitude,
Phil Shehan
@D Böehm Stealey:
So “12 month change” means “year over year same month vs same month” delta?
That’s one very interesting chart…
rishardcourtney says:
“Philip Shehan:
Your illogical assertions have been refuted – repeatedly and by several people – in this thread…”
Shehan needs to understand what Layman Lurker is saying. Otherwise, Shehan will start posting LL’s 3rd order polynomial chart to make more of his specious claims… oh, wait. He’s already doing it!
Layman is correct when he says that we can’t really tell anything from the past 15 years from that model. As I have repeatedly pointed out, the only way to see if global temperatures are accelerating is by using a long term trend chart, based on verifiable data. When we view such a chart, it is clear that there is no acceleration of global warming. [The green line shows the long term global warming trend.]
Mike Smith,
I copied that chart from this site. Better toask them than to ask my interpretation. They are pretty responsive. [Note the first comment, which says: “…the large changes in both temperature and CO2 do not show any acceleration in warming as CO2 builds up and in fact the rate of warming declines as carbon dioxide increases…”].
Here is a similar one I made using the WFT data base.
@ur momisuglyJP Miller:
Other patterns? Lunar tidal induced vertical ocean mixing.
http://www.pnas.org/content/97/8/3814/F1.large.jpg
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/lunar-cycles-more-than-one/
@ur momisugly.Allen B. Eltor:
I see you found the caps lock key.
and
the
return
key.
But have you ever thought that more need for mirror bending might just indicate more convection and faster cooling of the planet?
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/does-convection-dominate/
@ur momisuglyrichardscourtney:
You are a great optimist to think that sound advice for self inspection will be done by one so gifted in self delusion…
@ur momisuglyAlarmed:
Taking added vitamins and avoiding bacon and BBQ as we speak! 😉
@ur momisuglyShehan:
You have an axe. You’ve ground it. We all have enjoyed watching you catch fire from the sparks. Maybe it’s time you quenched it and started with annealing again? (For those not a Smith, that’s the process of stress relieving an overworked article…)
richardscourtney says:
January 7, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Philip Shehan:
Please accept some sincere advice.
You are wrong. Everybody can see you are wrong. If you cannot see you are wrong then you are deluding yourself so you need to step back and review the situation….
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Agreed He seems to think the people here are uneducated ignorami.
And if Shehan doesn’t like D Böehm Stealey’s graphs how about these.
length of Arctic Melt Season
Temperature Graph
Or Hansen’s Graphs
D Böehm Stealey says:
January 7, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Mike Smith,
I copied that chart from this site. Better to ask them…
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Actually it seems to have come from A.J. Strata (NASA engineer) the link is CO2 Does NOT Cause Climate Temperature Changes
He also did an article on the error in the temperature record
He does very nice analysis as you would expect from a top notch engineer.
E.M.Smith says: @ur momisugly January 7, 2013 at 4:37 pm
@ur momisuglyShehan:
You have an axe. You’ve ground it. We all have enjoyed watching you catch fire from the sparks. Maybe it’s time you quenched it and started with annealing again? (For those not a Smith, that’s the process of stress relieving an overworked article…)
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Darn it ChiefIO, now I have to clean my screen again. With visits from the farrier every 6 weeks I have a very strong visual of that process…..