UPDATES ARE CONTINUOUSLY BEING ADDED at the end of this story. Check below.
WUWT readers may recall this post last week:
The Secret 28 Who Made BBC ‘Green’ Will Not Be Named
The BBC pits six lawyers against one questioning blogger, Tony Newbery of Harmless Sky, who was making an FOI request for the 28 names. In the process, the judge demonstrates he has partisan views on climate change.
Now, thanks to the Wayback machine and Maurizio Morabito (omnologos) we can now read the list that the BBC fought to keep secret. [Damn those mischevious bloggers 😉 ]
This list has been obtained legally. (link to Wayback document.) My heartiest congratulations to Maurizo for his excellent sleuthing!
Maurizo writes: This is for Tony, Andrew, Benny, Barry and for all of us Harmless Davids.
The list from: January 26th 2006, BBC Television Centre, London
Specialists:
Robert May, Oxford University and Imperial College London
Mike Hulme, Director, Tyndall Centre, UEA
Blake Lee-Harwood, Head of Campaigns, Greenpeace
Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen
Michael Bravo, Scott Polar Research Institute, University of Cambridge
Andrew Dlugolecki, Insurance industry consultant
Trevor Evans, US Embassy
Colin Challen MP, Chair, All Party Group on Climate Change
Anuradha Vittachi, Director, Oneworld.net
Andrew Simms, Policy Director, New Economics Foundation
Claire Foster, Church of England
Saleemul Huq, IIED
Poshendra Satyal Pravat, Open University
Li Moxuan, Climate campaigner, Greenpeace China
Tadesse Dadi, Tearfund Ethiopia
Iain Wright, CO2 Project Manager, BP International
Ashok Sinha, Stop Climate Chaos
Andy Atkins, Advocacy Director, Tearfund
Matthew Farrow, CBI
Rafael Hidalgo, TV/multimedia producer
Cheryl Campbell, Executive Director, Television for the Environment
Kevin McCullough, Director, Npower Renewables
Richard D North, Institute of Economic Affairs
Steve Widdicombe, Plymouth Marine Labs
Joe Smith, The Open University
Mark Galloway, Director, IBT
Anita Neville, E3G
Eleni Andreadis, Harvard University
Jos Wheatley, Global Environment Assets Team, DFID
Tessa Tennant, Chair, AsRia
BBC attendees:
Jana Bennett, Director of Television
Sacha Baveystock, Executive Producer, Science
Helen Boaden, Director of News
Andrew Lane, Manager, Weather, TV News
Anne Gilchrist, Executive Editor Indies & Events, CBBC
Dominic Vallely, Executive Editor, Entertainment
Eleanor Moran, Development Executive, Drama Commissioning
Elizabeth McKay, Project Executive, Education
Emma Swain, Commissioning Editor, Specialist Factual
Fergal Keane, (Chair), Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Fran Unsworth, Head of Newsgathering
George Entwistle, Head of TV Current Affairs
Glenwyn Benson, Controller, Factual TV
John Lynch, Creative Director, Specialist Factual
Jon Plowman, Head of Comedy
Jon Williams, TV Editor Newsgathering
Karen O’Connor, Editor, This World, Current Affairs
Catriona McKenzie, Tightrope Pictures catriona@tightropepictures.com
BBC Television Centre, London (cont)
Liz Molyneux, Editorial Executive, Factual Commissioning
Matt Morris, Head of News, Radio Five Live
Neil Nightingale, Head of Natural History Unit
Paul Brannan, Deputy Head of News Interactive
Peter Horrocks, Head of Television News
Peter Rippon, Duty Editor, World at One/PM/The World this Weekend
Phil Harding, Director, English Networks & Nations
Steve Mitchell, Head Of Radio News
Sue Inglish, Head Of Political Programmes
Frances Weil, Editor of News Special Events
For those who don’t know what this is about, read the back story here.
Here is the backup link to the original document just in case the original disappears:
Real World Brainstorm Sep 2007 background (PDF)
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UPDATE: Now this Climategate 2.0 email makes more sense, as they’ve just been carrying water for CRU and the eco-NGO’s all along. The meeting with the 28 was just a pep rally. From: this WUWT post:
BBC’s Kirby admission to Phil Jones on “impartiality”
Alex Kirby in email #4894 writing about the BBC’s “neutrality”
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date: Wed Dec 8 08:25:30 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.xx.xx>
subject: RE: something on new online.
to: “Alex Kirby” <alex.kirby@bbc.xxx.xx>
At 17:27 07/12/2004, you wrote:
Yes, glad you stopped this — I was sent it too, and decided to
spike it without more ado as pure stream-of-consciousness rubbish. I can well understand your unhappiness at our running the other piece. But we are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any coverage at all, especially as you say with the COP in the offing, and being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them
say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it clear that we think they are talking through their hats.
—–Original Message—–
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit
BBC and “impartiality”…”ho, ho” indeed.
UPDATE: ‘TwentyEightGate’ was coined by RoyFOMR in comments. I liked it enough to put in the title.
UPDATE3 – Barry Woods writes in an email to me:
Don’t forget Mike Hulme Climategate email. why he funded CMEP, to keep sceptics OFF BBC airwaves… (below)
Mike Hulme:
“Did anyone hear Stott vs. Houghton on Today, radio 4 this morning? Woeful stuff really.
This is one reason why Tyndall is sponsoring the Cambridge Media/Environment Programme to starve this type of reporting at source.” (email 2496)
let us also not forget, that Roger Harrabin BBC & CMEP – (and Greenpeace Bill Hare) were also on the Tyndall board from 2002 to at least Nov 2005.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/27/climategate-2-impartiality-at-the-bbc/
When did Roger Harrabin step down from Tyndall advisory board?
(and he no made no mention, when reporting Climategate, of connections)
Tyndall were funding CMEP seminars for years to persuade the BBC, so not just that seminar, but years worth of lobbying
UPDATE4: Bishop Hill makes this excerpt from correspondence the “quote of the day”:
We now know that the BBC decided to abandon balance in its coverage of climate on the advice of a small coterie of green activists, including the campaign director of Greenpeace. This shows that the “shoddy journalism” of Newsnight’s recent smear was no “lapse” of standards at all. BBC news programs have for years been poorly checked recitations of the work of activists.
UPDATE5: Maurizo has added some analysis.
Summary for those without much time to read it all: Why the List of Participants to the BBC CMEP Jan 2006 Seminar is important
http://omnologos.com/why-the-list-of-participants-to-the-bbc-cmep-jan-2006-seminar-is-important/
UPDATE 6: Maurizo asked to add this –
I have not “given” the 28Gate list any importance. In fact, not one of the bloggers and journalists and commenters has “given” the 28Gate list any importance. It has been the BBC that GAVE IMPORTANCE TO 28GATE by spending so much money on lawyers. Therefore, 28Gate is important.
RE one of of the “science experts” Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen
It seems she has been making the rounds with Al Gore doing presentations. Anyone who refuses to condem Gore for gross scientific ignorance clearly is not an expert in anything but propoganda.
here’s a link to one of their presentations, scroll down for article. Claims of ice free arctic by 214 headline the presentation.
http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.ca/2009/12/arctic-ocean-may-be-ice-free-by-2014.html
Zeke says: “The ‘public good’ is determined by sustainability scientists and policy makers, who must pass legislation …” “The politicians apply the Precautionary Principle to protect the environment and the public.”
Zieke Heil!
http://www.iigcc.org/index.aspx
“The Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC) is a forum for collaboration on climate change for European investors. The group’s objective is to catalyse greater investment in a low carbon economy by bringing investors together to use their collective influence with companies, policymakers and investors. The group currently has over 50 members, including some of the largest pension funds and asset managers in Europe, and represents assets of around €4trillion. A full list of members is available on the membership page”.
Did you catch that: Four trillion Euros!
Remember the phrase “to use their collective influence with companies, policymakers and investors”
http://www.iigcc.org/membership.aspx
Members of the IIGCC include (I trimmed the list a bit):
BBC Pension Trust
Bedfordshire Pension Fund
BT Pension Scheme
Corporation of London Pension Fund
Environment Agency Pension Fund
Greater Manchester Pension Fund
Kent County Council
London Borough of Hounslow Pension Fund
London Borough of Islington Pension Fund
London Borough of Newham Pension Fund
London Pensions Fund Authority
South Yorkshire Pensions Authority
The Church Commissioners for England
The Church in Wales
Universities Superannuation Scheme
West Midlands Metropolitan Authorities Pension Fund
West Yorkshire Pension Fund
To be a bit more specific as to the BBC AGW Bias:
http://www.professionalpensions.com/professional-pensions/news/1440290/iigcc-calls-urgent-changes-encourage-institutional-investment
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Professional Pensions | 19 May 2009 | 01:00
Categories: Investment
Carbon markets need urgent changes in order to encourage institutional investment and the development of a low-carbon economy, the Institutional Investor Group on Climate Change says.
The group is calling for strong price signals and caps on carbon emissions that will encourage scarcity and demand.
IIGCC chairman and BBC head of pensions investment Peter Dunscombe said: “The credibility of emissions trading schemes would be greatly improved with a robust price signal as well as clear and frequent communication from the regulator on trading data and improved transparency over direct government participation in schemes.”
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Catch that: “IIGCC chairman and BBC head of pensions investment Peter Dunscombe…”
The BBC is the Chair of this Carbon Trading driven investment scheme!
Recall: “to use their collective influence with companies, policymakers and investors”
I would say that the BBC has a major non-Scientific reason for their Human Induced Global Warming Bias.
If this Human Induced Global Warming thing does not pan out then perhaps a lot of BBC pensioners will be ‘left out in the cold’.
It is despicable how these charlatans of science are playing with the lives and futures of so many trusting people. These trusting people should pick up the phone, call their MP and get to the bottom of this before their pensions go the way of the dot-com or housing bubble.
It looks like a clear conflict of interest between the BBC and the public that they are supposed to serve.
Perhaps the real troll is the one who is trying to spin this event as a single offense against the Charter – and gain control of the range of the thread – rather than allowing a full discussion of the systemic problems involving science, political advocacy, environmentalism, renewables peddlers (BP) and state run media.
The BBC doesn’t need to be scraped just make it private and allow them to advertise. I see the Straw trolls are out defending the indefensible as usual.
sergeiMK;
Reading the comments here is just unbelievable!
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What’s unbelievable is that temps have not risen for 15 years and the BBC is not reporting it, seal level acceleration doesn’t exist and the BBC isn’t reporting that, accumulated cyclone energy had been in decline for a few decades and the BBC doesn’t report that, the antarctic is setting new records for ice, nada from the BBC, Keith Briffa just published an update to his tree ring studies that destroys his own hockey stick graph and restores the MWP but not a whisper from the BBC.
I could go on sergieMK, for a very long time. These are documented facts that fly in the face of the CAGW meme. If compelling new documented facts and science appear regarding MMR, then I would expect them to be reported, just as I expect the overwhelming new data and science that contradicts the predictions and science of the CAGW meme to be reported.
I seem to count 30 names as “specialists.” Weren’t there supposed to be 28? What am I missing?
What would be really nice now is for someone to do an FOIA on the BBC pension fund to find out how much they have lost in their green/renewables investments.
My guess is that knowledge might bring a little balance into the BBC demanded by their members. No more screwing around with our pensions on trendy no hoper investments.
The crisis that is engulfing the BBC at present is due to Newsnight, the premier news show, broadcasting an expose claiming that a senior member of the Thatcher Government was a paedophile. It was totally untrue, and the most basic journalistic checks were not carried out.
One of the most prominent Twittees who “outed” Lord McAlpine was George Monbiot. Might his judgement of the former Treasurer (and very effective fundraiser) of the Conservative Party during the Thatcher years have something to do with it?
In both the BBC’s and Monbiot’s case, this is the flip-side of the Peter Glieck affair. They both appear to be very quick to accept evidence that confirms their prejudices, and attack any evidence that poses the slightest challenge. I posted on this yesterday.
Sergi: I think you are taking a rather narrow view of the problem. The refusal to air dissenting views is one thing, and in certain cases, you may have a point, but I would argue that is not the case here.
However, look at the bigger picture. Look at the intent of the meeting, if you need it spelled out, go take a look at the link provided by Tallbloke. Then look at who attended that meeting from the BBC.
What they did was not just deny an airing to dissenting views, but embedded their propaganda in every branch of BBC output. Every program you watch pushes the global warming meme, and every program you watch denigrates anyone who disagrees with that idea.
This is Goebbels type propaganda at its most extreme.
Dig further, and you see that it it not because they truly believe that we are all going to roast to death, but they see this as an excuse for global societal engineering, pushing host of liberal agenda items, most importantly redistribution of wealth and destruction of western (capitalist) civilization.
These are evil people, with an evil purpose.
How about the Dirty Thirty?
[snip]
The International Broadcasting Trust, who organised the seminar, have infiltrated the BBC and Channel 4 much more than just this one seminar would indicate.
They even boast “We have continued to work in partnership with Channel 4 and the BBC, holding regular meetings to discuss how they plan to implement the international aspects of their remits. We have also worked with other broadcasters including Sky News. “
Supposedly the BBC is an independent organisation.
The IBT’s funders include the usual suspects, like WWF, Oxfam, CAFOD and UNICEF.
More info below.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/the-bbc-the-international-broadcasting-trust/
Michael Roberts says:
November 13, 2012 at 7:10 am
James Delingpole’s & “What’s Up With That” 28-Gate: How To Blow Things Out Of Proportion | Milton Redfearn
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Redfearn is a political Analyst for the UK government: http://www.blogger.com/profile/11709687989944660647
Less than 24 hours and the whitewash is already starting.
I may have engaged in a little advocacy, but at least I can assure you that I received no gifts, grants, plane tickets, parties, academic standing, honorary degrees, or other sweets from the Devil for my advocacy.
~control f Zeke
The BBC has LIED in a formal public report about the meeting on Jan. 26, 2006.
This meeting was said to shape a dramatic shift in BBC policy, according to the BBC’s own News Director.
Hardly any actual scientists were present at this epochal policy meeting….. Never mind climate scientists, never mind high level or leading scientific minds of our time.
There needs to be a formal public inquiry with all testimonies under oath and made public.
I’m late to the party but FWIW:
“At the core of the BBC, in its very DNA, is a way of thinking that is firmly of the Left”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349506/Left-wing-bias-Its-written-BBCs-DNA-says-Peter-Sissons.html
Jo Nova has a whole anthology of BBC bloopers
http://joannenova.com.au/tag/bbc/
Brilliant brilliant stuff. Well done!
See? This goes to prove activism isn’t good for anything. We could have told ’em that!
Surely ‘expertgate’ would have been much better. Or, failing that, ‘seminargate’.
Well done Maurizio, but I think we all owe a big vote of thanks to Tony Newbury, a British pensioner with a modest little blog, who set the ball rolling by taking on the might of the BBC. As noted in a post above, he has now asked the BBC to confirm that the list is the one he was asking for. I suspect that the Beeb will be having further interaction with Mr Newbury before this is over.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the BBC is the biggest international broadcaster in the world. To the person above who complained about ‘foreigners’ getting involved in the discussion, my response is that the BBC got itself involved when it decided to broadcast its propaganda all over the world.
Slightly off-topic but related to that other Beeb incident, I read that one of the people who could be sued by Lord McAlpine is George Monbiot himself. He tweeted something about McAlpine being a paed, and has now apologised for it. Another potential defendent is the wife of the speaker of the house of commons.
DirkH says: @ur momisugly November 13, 2012 at 8:31 am
BTW, you sure it’s not the KGB Broadcasting corporation?
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Since you asked….
Johanna said:
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the BBC is the biggest international broadcaster in the world. To the person above who complained about ‘foreigners’ getting involved in the discussion, my response is that the BBC got itself involved when it decided to broadcast its propaganda all over the world.
Well, yes. But lets also take to task the people that facilitate the distribution of the propaganda in the USA.
Some abuse directed at The (so called) Discovery Channel would not be go amiss.
I like. Busted Biased Criminals.
Zeke says:
November 13, 2012 at 8:32 am
Of course, the list is diverse.
It is merely an interdisciplinary combination of researchers and social scientists and artists who are working together for the public good, in an effort to create a sustainable planet.
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And if anyone actually believes that I have this bridge, with slight hurricane damage I want to sell.