Dear readers – your help needed in fun crowdsourcing project

NOTE: This is a “sticky” top post, new posts will appear below this one.

No, I’m not asking for money, only your ability to research and encapsulate an idea.

I have another big project in the works, and I’m inviting you all to be a part of it because this is an idea that lends itself to crowd-sourcing very well. I’ll have a press release forthcoming as to what it is all about, but in the meantime I decided to give you an opportunity to pitch in and help.

The concept is simple and revolves around the question “Did you know?” and climate science.

Here’s how it works.  

Every one of us has some little tidbit of information they learned about climate science that isn’t being told by the MSM and doesn’t fit the narrative. I’m looking for a series of “Did you know?” tidbits to use in an upcoming presentation.  For example:

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Did you know?

The infrared response of Carbon Dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere is curved (logarithmic) rather than straight (linear) as is often portrayed in science stories?

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This means that a runaway greenhouse effect is not possible on Earth.

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As shown above, the concept and supporting graphic fits on a single slide. That’s what I’m shooting for.

Using the example above, I’d be indebted to you if you could provide similar examples in comments. Please provide a URL for a supporting graphic if you have one, along with a URL that provides a source/citation for the information.

Concepts that are just words without graphics are acceptable too, provided they are short and succinct. They have to fit on a single slide.

Other readers are also welcome to fact check the submissions in comments, which will help make my job easier.

This post will remain a top post sticky for a few days. Thank you for your consideration.

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October 20, 2012 11:35 am

Sorry if this appeared before. Didn’t take the first time:
1. Did you know that the East Antarctica Ice Sheet, by far the largest on the planet, has not receded for 3000 years?
2. Did you know that it has been just as warm as now often in the past 10,000 years of the present interglacial phase? This was especially true during much of the Holocene Climatic Optimum five to eight thousand years ago, but also during subsequent climate cycles such as the Minoan, Roman and Medieval Warm Periods.
3. Did you know that the earth has been in a cooling trend for about 3300 years, since the Minoan Warm Period? Although cold & warm periods alternate, the longer term trend has been down.
4. Did you know that it is was much warmer than now during the previous interglacial phase, 130 to 114 thousand years ago, when Scandinavia was an island, the raised beaches of Alaska formed & hippos swam in the Thames at the site of London? This was without benefit of a Neanderthal Industrial Age in Europe.
5. Did you know that there was an ice age in the Ordovician Period, when CO2 levels were many times higher than now? The sun was perhaps 4% less hot then, but that alone cannot explain the glaciation, given perhaps 7000 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, vs present 390, very low by the standards of most of our planet’s history.
6. Did you know that carbon dioxide is plant food, and that crops and forests flourish when its concentration is higher?
7. Did you know that climate “scientists” systematically “adjust” raw temperature data higher for recent time frames and lower for earlier decades?
8. Did you know that, contrary to the hypothesis of CAGW via greenhouse gases, the air is warming less and more slowly than the land? This falsified (in both the scientific and ordinary senses of the term) hypothesis requires just the opposite to occur.

Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2012 11:36 am

Did you know… there is no global temperature?
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/globaltemp/GlobTemp.JNET.pdf
Abstract:

Physical, mathematical and observational grounds are employed to show that there
is no physically meaningful global temperature for the Earth in the context of the issue
of global warming. While it is always possible to construct statistics for any given set of
local temperature data, an infinite range of such statistics is mathematically permissible
if physical principles provide no explicit basis for choosing among them. Distinct and
equally valid statistical rules can and do show opposite trends when applied to the
results of computations from physical models and real data in the atmosphere. A given
temperature field can be interpreted as both “warming” and “cooling” simultaneously,
making the concept of warming in the context of the issue of global warming physically
ill-posed.

Conclusion:

There is no global temperature. The reasons lie in the properties of the equation of state
governing local thermodynamic equilibrium, and the implications cannot be avoided by substituting statistics for physics. Since temperature is an intensive variable, the total temperature is meaningless in terms of the system being measured, and hence any one simple average has no necessary meaning. Neither does temperature have a constant proportional relationship with energy or other extensive thermodynamic properties.
Averages of the Earth’s temperature field are thus devoid of a physical context which
would indicate how they are to be interpreted, or what meaning can be attached to changes
in their levels, up or down. Statistics cannot stand in as a replacement for the missing physics because data alone are context-free. Assuming a context only leads to paradoxes such as
simultaneous warming and cooling in the same system based on arbitrary choice in some
free parameter. Considering even a restrictive class of admissible coordinate transformations yields families of averaging rules that likewise generate opposite trends in the same data,
and by implication indicating contradictory rankings of years in terms of warmth.
The physics provides no guidance as to which interpretation of the data is warranted.
Since arbitrary indexes are being used to measure a physically non-existent quantity, it is
not surprising that different formulae yield different results with no apparent way to select
among them.
The purpose of this paper was to explain the fundamental meaninglessness of so-called
global temperature data. The problem can be (and has been) happily ignored in the name of
the empirical study of climate. But nature is not obliged to respect our statistical conventions and conceptual shortcuts. Debates over the levels and trends in so-called global temperatures will continue interminably, as will disputes over the significance of these things for the human experience of climate, until some physical basis is established for the meaningful measurement of climate variables, if indeed that is even possible.
It may happen that one particular average will one day prove to stand out with some
special physical significance. However, that is not so today. The burden rests with those
who calculate these statistics to prove their logic and value in terms of the governing dynamical equations, let alone the wider, less technical, contexts in which they are commonly
encountered.

Tenuk
October 20, 2012 11:38 am

Arctic/Antarctic see-saw. Refutes consensus conjecture that CO2 is a major player regarding climate.

davidmhoffer
October 20, 2012 11:41 am

Did you know that senior officials of the IPCC admit that they are advocating for for wealth redistribution and that it has nothing to do with environmental issues?
“One must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore.”
~ Ottmar Edenhofer, Co-Chair, UN/IPCC WG-3

David L. Hagen
October 20, 2012 11:43 am

Did you know that 25% to 33% of Finland’s population died during the Great Famine of 1694 to 1697 caused by severe cold?
^ Neumann, J.; Lindgrén, S. (1979). “Great Historical Events That Were Significantly Affected by the Weather: 4, The Great Famines in Finland and Estonia”. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society 60 (7): pp775–787.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_Finland_%281695%E2%80%931697%29doi:10.1175/1520-0477(1979)0602.0.CO;2. ISSN 1520-0477.

Tenuk
October 20, 2012 11:43 am

1100+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarm
Link:-
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

davidmhoffer
October 20, 2012 11:43 am

Did you know that leading climate scientists reject actual data in favour of artificial models?
“The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

Tim F
October 20, 2012 11:44 am

Did you know that the number of strong-severe tornadoes in the United States has been decreasing since the 1970s?
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/severeweather/tornadoes.html

Brian S
October 20, 2012 11:47 am

Did you know that vegetation grows by a process called photosythesis in which CO2 is absorbed from the atmosphere, the Carbon is stored and the Oxygen released?
Did you know that coal is fossilised vegetation, so all of the carbon in coal was once in CO2 in the atmosphere, at which time growing conditions were evidently ideal since there are still gigatonnes of coal reserves?
Did you know that the ONLY scientifically proven effect of higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is increased plant growth and higher crop yields, which is why market gardeners increase the level of CO2 in their greenhouses? (Smokey had a link for this)

Jeff Ulrich
October 20, 2012 11:48 am

Did you know the sea level has been rising for the last 20,000 or so years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
I have often searched for a website that simply gives the best reasons why we are not that concerned with global warming.

Brian S
October 20, 2012 11:49 am

Sorry. Add an ‘n’ to photosynthesis

Roger Knights
October 20, 2012 11:52 am

7 The “gold standard” US temperature monitoring network that was recently set up (and not publicized) gives a reading that is one degree F less than the reading given by the stations on which the warming trend is based. This warming bias probably exists in the networks used in other countries.
8 If the scary numbers you may have heard about the rate of melting in Greenland and Antarctica were true, the rate of sea level rise would be accelerating. Instead, it’s flattening.
9 The U. of Colorado recently redefined “sea level” as something other than sea level (ocean basin volume), which has had the effect of hiding the decline in the rate of sea level rise.
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Anthony, you should keep this thread a “sticky” for WEEKS! MONTHS!!
And you should post, in a parallel thread, the first drafts of your slide-show, for us to critique. Far better for us to wring out the debatable points, etc. than for THEM to do so.

Craig from Belvidere
October 20, 2012 11:52 am

Did you know that the fact that a model reproduces the data it was created with does not prove the model can predict the future.

markx
October 20, 2012 11:54 am

……………………………………………………Evidence…………..Consensus ………..Scientific Understanding
Stratospheric water vapour frm CH4………Strong…………..Insufficient…………………….Low
Direct aerosol……………………………………..Strong………….Moderate to Insufficient…..Medium to Low
Cloud albedo effect (all aerosols)…………..Medium………..Insufficient……………………..Low
Surface albedo (land use)…………………….Strong……….Moderate to Insufficient…….Medium to Low
Surface albedo (BC aerosol on snow)…….Medium………..Insufficient………………………Low
Solar irradiance……………………………………Medium………..Insufficient………………………Low
Volcanic aerosol…………………………………..Strong………….Insufficient………………………Low
Stratos water vapour not CH4 oxidation…..Insufficient…….Insufficient……………………Very Low
Tropospheric water vapour frm irrigation….Insufficient……Insufficient…………………….Very Low
Cosmic rays………………………………………….Insufficient……Insufficient……………………Very Low
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch2s2-9-1.html
also emailed word doc

milodonharlani
October 20, 2012 11:55 am

1. Did you know that the East Antarctica Ice Sheet, by far the largest on the planet, has not receded for 3000 years?
2. Did you know that it has been just as warm as now often in the past 10,000 years of the present interglacial phase? This was especially true during much of the Holocene Climatic Optimum five to eight thousand years ago, but also during subsequent climate cycles such as the Minoan, Roman and Medieval Warm Periods.
3. Did you know that the earth has been in a cooling trend for about 3300 years, since the Minoan Warm Period? Although cold & warm periods alternate, the longer term trend has been down.
4. Did you know that it is was much warmer than now during the previous interglacial phase, 130 to 114 thousand years ago, when Scandinavia was an island, the raised beaches of Alaska formed & hippos swam in the Thames at the site of London? This was without benefit of a Neanderthal Industrial Age in Europe.
5. Did you know that there was an ice age in the Ordovician Period, when CO2 levels were many times higher than now? The sun was perhaps 4% less hot then, but that alone cannot explain the glaciation, given perhaps 7000 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, vs present 390, very low by the standards of most of our planet’s history.
6. Did you know that carbon dioxide is plant food, and that crops and forests flourish when its concentration is higher?
7. Did you know that climate “scientists” systematically “adjust” raw temperature data higher for recent time frames and lower for earlier decades?
8. Did you know that, contrary to the hypothesis of CAGW via greenhouse gases, the air is warming less and more slowly than the land? This falsified (in both the scientific and ordinary senses of the term) hypothesis requires just the opposite to occur.
Apologies if you already received this. Am having trouble logging on from South America.

Curt
October 20, 2012 11:58 am

Did you know that despite millions of man-hours spent in attempts to prove rising CO2 levels are a result of petroleum-based combustion by humans, it still hasn’t been established to a consensus level?

Roger Knights
October 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Title for your slideshow:
Everything you know is wrong (about climate change)

csanborn
October 20, 2012 12:02 pm

Did you know that (dates vary a little according to the source) the Laurentide Ice Sheet covered essentially all of what is now Canada, and much of what is now the United States Of America, from around 120,000-90,000 years ago up to around 12,000-20,000 years ago, and that the sheet was up to 2 miles thick around what is now Quebec, and was up to 1 mile thick in what is now the Chicago area? One graphic version of the sheet here: http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/17222laurentideicesheet.jpg
One explanation of the ice sheet here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurentide_ice_sheet
Optional questions…
Question1: Was it a bad thing that the ice sheet (AKA a glacier) melted?
Question2: Did mankind have anything to do with its melting?

George E. Smith
October 20, 2012 12:03 pm

“””””…..NetDr says:
October 20, 2012 at 9:41 am
Gary
You must be poorly informed as the logarithmic relationship of CO2 is known by all but small children. Please read before you post …..”””””
And I must be a small children. A logarthmic relation for CO2 means going from 280 ppm to 560 ppm gives the same Temperature change as going from one CO2 molecule in the atmosphere to two molecules of CO2 in the atmosphere. The logarithm is a very well defined function for positive real numbers.
There’ is NO experimentally measured data, that better fits a logarithmic cuve than the linear one (Between 315 and 400 ppm for which we have data) and there’s also no theoretical basis for believing it is logarithmic. The Beer-Lambert law does not apply, since the absorbed energy does not stay absorbed; it is re-emitted at some other frequency range.

David L. Hagen
October 20, 2012 12:03 pm

Did you know that solar cycles strongly affected the price of wheat in Europe over the last 700 years, and in the USA during the 20th century?
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=price+wheat+solar+cycle&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C15&as_sdtp=
INFLUENCE OF SOLAR ACTIVITY ON STATE OF WHEAT MARKET IN MEDIEVAL ENGLAND
Lev A. Pustilnik, Gregory Yom Din
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0312/0312244.pdf
SPACE CLIMATE MANIFESTATION IN EARTH PRICES – FROM MEDIEVAL ENGLAND UP TO MODERN USA L.A. PUSTILNIK, G. YOM DIN
Israel Cosmic Ray and Space Weather Center, Tel Aviv University
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0411/0411165.pdf

MikeB
October 20, 2012 12:04 pm

Did you know we are all carbon based life forms?
Did you know that every cell in your body contains carbon that has once been part of a CO2 molecule in the atmosphere?
Did you know that the difference between animals and plants is that plants can make their own food (out of CO2 by a process called photosynthesis). Animals cannot make their own food and have to eat plants (or other animals which in turn eat plants). Without CO2 the plants would die – and soon after, so would all the animals. CO2 is the single gas essential to all life on Earth. Did you also know that the EPA classify it as a pollutant?
Did you know we are technically still in an ice age? In geological terms an ice age is whenever there are permanent ice sheets on the planet. We have been in the current ice age for about 3 million years. This ice age is punctuated by interglacial periods in which the world warms up temporarily. These interglacial periods occur in a regular pattern about every 100, 000 years. We are in one now. This is a pattern that has been repeated about 30 times as far as we know over the last 3 million years. This current interglacial is called the Holocene.
Did you that our interglacial is cooler than previous interglacials, although CO2 levels are a lot higher now?
Did you know that temperatures have increased by only a fraction of a degree Celsius since 1880? Did you know that about 11,000 years ago, at the end of the Younger Dryas period,, temperatures rose abruptly by up to ten degrees Celsius within a decade or two?

George V
October 20, 2012 12:06 pm

Did you know….. that polar “ice” (actually frozen CO2) on Mars was shrinking at the same time as Earth’s polar ice?
example: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
George V.

stew
October 20, 2012 12:08 pm

biological and geological processes naturally strip atmospheres of CO2 and lay it down in mineral deposits. planets full off life will eventually die of cold.
luckily we humans are getting some of the carbon back out and putting it in the atmosphere. we are #saving# life on the planet and should be thanked for it.

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