Tom Nelson reports on some disturbed thinking – From an epic rant by warmist David Appell:
“Are Anthony Watts and Marc Morano and Tom Nelson and Steve Goddard smart enough to be guilty of climate crimes? I think so”
Quark Soup by David Appell: The CharlesH Problem
But CharlesH, this idiot, this — I’m sorry — this fucking idiot who sits home and probably watches America’s [sic] Idol in the evening, who has probably never read a science paper in his life, really, truly, somehow honestly thinks he knows better than all the professional, study-deep-into-the-night, sweat-the-data, devote-their-lives scientists about all this.
What can you possibly say about such a person? This person — CharlesH — now threatens civilization.
Think about that — ignorance from Tea Party types in rural Utah threatens the well-being of the entire human race.
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I don’t know. Donald Brown, the philosopher at Penn State who has been writing about the ethics of climate change for well over a decade — I interviewed him in the early 2000s — thinks they are perhaps guilty of crimes against humanity.
Are they? Are Anthony Watts and Marc Morano and Tom Nelson and Steve Goddard smart enough to be guilty of climate crimes?
I think so. You can simply claim that CO2 isn’t a greenhouse gas.
I think they’re crimes will be obvious in about a decade.
When I profiled Michael Mann for Scientific American, he said he thought it would eventually be illegal to deny climate change. I had doubts about that, but maybe.
…It’s obvious (barely) they’re not smart enough to be so evil…
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None of them has much of a science background, if any. I mean, please.
And CharlesH, who clearly knows no science either.
But on the shoulders of these idiots, fools, and incoherent minds our future seems to turn, if only just a bit, if only in the blogosphere. And they are probably proud of this, somehow.
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But them, still, I think: CO2 is a greenhouse gas. 5 molecules per 10,000 trap more heat than 4 per 10,000, or even three.
On that small divide, our future lies. One molecule out of 10,000.
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I’ll be flying home tomorrow…
I just hope I can get my WiFi to work again. It always seems like a crapshoot, and frankly, I don’t even know if I remember the password.
Apparently Mr. Appell doesn’t note that I’ve stated that CO2 is a greenhouse gas on national television and said it has an effect.
There’s also a transcript here
I think the real crime Mr. Appell thinks I’m guilty of is existing, having an opinion, and daring to write about it.
If anyone is a neighbor of David Appell, this might be fun:
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Fascinating stuff.
I am pretty sure people like David Appell will in future be the subjects of studies on a whole new definition of insanity.
This is as bad as any religious zealot ever got. Perhaps it is the vision of being saviors of civilization?
At least he didn’t invoke the, “Think of the future generations of starving children boiling in the ocean beaches of Boise”, meme. He’s starting to come around, slowly.
/sarc
I bet Appell burned witches or heretics in a former life. At least then he could say he was doing it for God but who is he praying to now.
Charles H,
Thank you.
Another null rant, empty, zero, nothing, nil, this Appell individual is worthy only of the ignore button.
Shouldn’t it be a crime in America to deny other citizens of their free speech rights?
It is a short step from, you think differently to me so you can not speak, to, you think differently from me so you can not live.
That is a step taken in history by many dictators…
Experimented with too many Strange Quarks?
So wrong on so many (every) count.
“When I profiled Michael Mann for Scientific American, he said he thought it would eventually be illegal to deny climate change.”
As someone that has studied history and political science, this statement is abhorrent to me. Not only un-American, the educated mind that truly believes that is a dangerous one and an enemy of all free thinking people of the world. Above, temp called him a “classic eugenics nutter”, and while I agree with that statement, it understates (even trivializes – no offense temp, not meant as a knock on you) the evil thoughts of those who believe it. Thoughts become words, words become belief and belief become actions.
Don’t make the knee-jerk reaction that people like this are just sad – they can be deadly dangerous too if they collect in large enough groups, and it seems that a type of polarization of people is gaining speed in America. It is also an outstanding example of why the Bill of Rights is essential to people remaining free to speak their minds and avoid persecution at the hands of the “mob”.
As my disclaimer, I would like to say that while I do not believe that Mann will lead the anarcho-progressives against us in the streets, I do believe that most things don’t start big – they start very small and snowball until out of control.
“I think they’re [sic] crimes will be obvious in about a decade.”
Only 3652 days away Anthony! I think you should put up a countdown calendar on the sidebar. I hope many of us will be around to have a good laugh.
Hehehe, that’s funny right there. 😉
Appell’s drivel sounded a lot like that stuff that came out of the mouth of the Iraqi propaganda twerp as the American troops entered Baghdad or the sort of vicious ravings of Ahmedinejad in Iran. The ravings of a nut.
Bless his little heart!
bikermailman says:
September 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I know the usual thing about Godwin’s Law, and I’m not going to say anything overt. But are there any groups in history that we might think of who talk like this?
How about the Hutus calling the Tutsis cockroaches on public radio? “A cockroach has no friend and is of no use to you – know who the cockroaches are in your village.” Less than a year later, 800,000 less Tutsis on this earth. While that may seem a big leap on this topic, I would paraphrase a quote that war may be started at a whim but never stopped at one.
He will keep eating that Quark Soup – he should know that hallucinogenics are bad for your mental status as well as your kidneys.
Helen of Troy comes to mind in support of at least this part of the quote.
Mark
“You can simply claim that CO2 isn’t a greenhouse gas.”
He means “You can’t…”
This is a common goalpost moving, and redefining of opposition. It is a self-defense mechanism on their part. They claim the “deniers” are merely “denying” CO2 is a greenhouse gas, or denying that the climate “changes.” That is what they are arguing. They know they lose on positive feedbacks. They also sound like those old groupies for Stalin show trials.
It’s not nice to make fun of raving lunatics.
David appears to be suffering the mental health effects of having been bitten by his black cat, which must have been infected with rabies from the burgeoning squirrel population of Salem, OR.
Come to think of it, he’d have fit right in in Salem, MA, c. 1692. He would no doubt approve of hanging climate witches rather than burning them, to cut down on CO2 emissions.
Appell says he’s ready to suffer:
“Perhaps we need a decade of true suffering — I mean REAL hardship — to break them of their idiocy. I’m just barely old enough to perhaps die in such a decade, but if that’s what it really takes….”
Developing world people ready anytime to take his team’s non-green electricity/internal combustion engines/food distribution network/consumer goods & suffer along in solidarity.
Yes, this is a religion and Mr. Appell has fallen under its spell. I believe the marketing effort for global warming was packaged with other popular causes e.g. gay marriage, clean water, clean air, environmental justice, social justice, etc. When someone criticizes global warming alarmism, the religious believers feel that all causes in the marketing basket are being attacked. As we continue to dissemble the web of lies surrounding climate it will be helpful for us to make positive statements about the other causes in the basket. Statements like “global warming alarmism is a big business and should be looked at with a skeptical lens but I believe in gay marriage.” Many of the people under the spell of the religion will do a double take and may begin to realize that catastrophic global warming “skeptics” are not all that bad, maybe they might have a point worth considering.
I just hope I can get my WiFi to work again.
He could always get a megaphone and sandwich board I suppose.
“But CharlesH, this idiot … What can you possibly say about such a person? This person — CharlesH — now threatens civilization. Think about that — ignorance from Tea Party types in rural Utah threatens the well-being of the entire human race …”
Hello – just read something very similar to that …
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8536385/swan-stands-by-tea-party-comments
“[Australian] Treasurer Wayne Swan is standing by his attack on the US Tea Party, saying “cranks and crazies” are putting the global economic recovery at risk.”
Not that I am implying any orchestration of course (/sarc)
” … 5 molecules per 10,000 … On that small divide, our future lies. One molecule out of 10,000 …”
The word ‘lies’ in this context can be taken more than one way.
Around here, 5 molecules per 10,000 happens every day.
Between sunset and sunrise.
It is our past, present and (hopefully) our future.
Is Appell dumb enough to be conned? Yes.
Sorry, but I only skimmed most of Mr. Appell’s “epic rant”, while searching for the identity of CharlesH.
Anyone care to clue me in ?
It kind of ruins the whole rant, when you don’t know what its about.
There are quite a few very sick puppies in the CAGW camp.