Here’s the QOTW, a comment left on a YouTube video:
Very well done. Except, unfortunately, history will show that climate denialists are worse than nazis.
What prompted that? This:
I suppose it was only a matter of time before the Hitler video was used on me. It can be used to parody just about anything. The best part is that it provides a window into the mindset of the creator, Jenkin Brown, plus the people that are doing the piling on in comments like the one above.
Gosh. All this denigration because I have an opinion and dare to write about it with citations. Yes, surely that’s just as bad (or worse as the commenter says) as putting millions of innocent people in gas chambers or shooting them in mass trenches. The comparison made by the commenter is so absurd that it overshadows the satire. It’s laughable.
I suppose we can thank Ellen Goodman for popularizing this connection:
I would like to say we’re at a point where global warming is impossible to deny. Let’s just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers, though one denies the past and the other denies the present and future. – Ellen Goodman, Boston Globe, February 9, 2007 “No change in political climate”
Obviously, since I posted it here, I don’t mind the satirical video, because it still isn’t as bad as the time I was labeled as having sex with farm animals (scroll down to bottom) for asking for a factual correction to an article.
I’ve been insulted by professionals, this is just an amateur effort. 😉
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Stephen Wilde,
Every time I visit a climate page either pro or anti warming, I am prepared to reconsider. I don’t regard my skeptical point of view as absolutely true and correct. I could easily be wrong.
What converted me from a believer to a skeptic is all the lies and dishonesty on the CAGW side, and I’m not just talking about the Manns and CRU’s. Like you, Stephen, I have a legal background and my BS detector is pretty well-developed. There seems to be a culture of intellectual fraud and professional misconduct among warmists.
I’ve spent many hours learning atmospherics and I’ve done the math. I understand the greenhouse effect but I don’t understand the feedbacks. That’s because nobody understands the feedbacks. (Not even the late Richard Feynman.)
If the feedbacks in the climate models had been correct, by now we might have been in a lot of trouble. Fortunately the predictions have not come to pass — so far.
Like Dr. Patrick Flood I believe that a warm planet is a happy planet. In addition I have two biases that make me want to disbelieve in CAGW. The first is the damage which warmist legislation has done to the developed economies. In turn the developing economies have suffered too.
Second, while warming is a long-term issue, right at this very moment the world is faced with urgent problems of poverty and water scarcity. The distortion of priorities in favor of carbon, has resulted in a gross imbalance in the allocation of resources.
I’m not worried about being associated with Hitler. I’ve been an atheist my entire adult life and have had plenty of time to get used to it. Even those with the best of intentions can behave
maliciously at times.
The temperature of the air could be a lot below zero and ice wouldn’t form. It depends on the temperature of the water. There is a phenomon called ‘polynya’ where there is an unfrozen area within the ice pack. The air can be fifty degrees below zero and the water will be open all winter.
Anyway, the ice area will shrink for a little while yet, in spite of the fact that the air is below freezing.
re greg laden link…should have said “posted by greg laden”. btw i didn’t watch it and only realised it was the same video when i saw it on WUWT today.
“history will show that climate denialists are worse than nazis”
Riiiiiiiight. Because not agreeing with these clowns’ opinion on something is exactly like sending Jews to the ovens – but worse somehow.
These losers are dilusional. I’d say they’ve jumped the shark, but why insult sharks?
They are truly getting desperate. They look at your blog so they can tear it apart, but the science is too sound and they have nothing to get a handle on. So – typically – they make stuff up. The good thing is, the more they scream about you, the more people will come in for a look, the majority of whom will recognize science and common sense and wham, they’ve lost a few more to rational thought.
The more they rant, the more illogical they look and the more people question them and their motives.
I think the comming elections will see a turn around of all things green. It might not be sudden, but it will the beginning of their grasp on power slipping forever.
Meanwhile, I find it strange and disturbing that these bods can read your blog and not learn anything. They no longer recognize science when they see it. They no longer question. They think it’s bad for others to question. Worst of all, they crave destruction merely to be proven “right”. Sad sad sick bunch that they are.
Keep up the good work, Anthony, you are a much needed oasis in the desert.
Bennett said (September 2, 2012 at 11:37 am)
“…Wow, they really sink to new lows with every passing week. On the bright and cheery side, they’re obviously reading WUWT on a daily basis. :-)…”
I’ve noticed that, too. I’ve seen that a few blogs base their current story on something that appeared here first. They won’t comment here, because they don’t control the moderation.
So Tamino can thank us now – he’s just found the theme for his next few stories. And, as usual, his regular crowd will pile on, and his moderators will turn a blind eye to any “off topic” comments.
“Denialist” Commonly meaning an individual that denies that the Nazi Holocaust ever occurred. Yes, it happened and the most common number that I read is some 12.5 million civilians under the control of the Nazis were murdered; about 6 million were Jews.
But… in the 1930’s, before Hitler came to power, the New York Times covered up a genocide on the order of Hitler’s. It is was a massive engineered starvation called the Holodomore in the Ukraine. And the New York Times? Their simile was “you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs”. Some ten million murdered and they say it’s like making an omelet. Madeline Albright has been quoted as saying “yes, Stalin DID murder 40 million people but he industrialized the Soviet Union so he was good for the country. But wait, there’s more. The New York Times praises Communist China. In the 1950s, Chairman Mao and the communists systematically murdered 40 million people during the “Great Leap Forward” (Total murdered by Mao and the Communists, somewhere around 60 million). Now the Communists harvest organs out of still-living prisoners. And the NYT says we should be more like them.
Denialist? In the last 100 years the Communists have murdered some 120 to 170 million and the NYT and the Liberals think it’s “just dandy”.
If someone denies the Nazi Holocaust, we all agree that they are beneath contempt. So…..if someone denies the Communist Holocaust, are they ten times worse? The Communists DID murder ten times as many as the Nazis. Personally, I believe that you have to be either ignorant or evil to read the NYT. Most of their readers are ignorant self-important fools pretending to be “intellectuals”.
Contemptible.
They also believe in CAGW.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)
It seems like he’s not open to comments, at least not on my browser, so here’s the comment I would have posted if he wasn’t such a weenie:
Dear Jenkin,
Why don’t you grow a set and post it directly on WUWT ??
Commenters there have already ripped you a new one close to where the set that you don’t have would be located.
Weeenie.
Regards, Phil
henrythethird said (September 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm )
Thanks for the quote, Sir Henry. You observations are dead on, as are those of the gentleman who cited Alexis stats. This here blog is where the truth gets spoken, in both the articles (99.99%) and the comments (for the most part).
Thank you Anthony, and all of the knowledgeable commentors (especially Smokey), I’ve learned so much here on WUWT.
Omno, VERY funny on the Daleks! LOL!
Re: Godwin’s law, that’s an area I bumped into many times over the years in my own fights. As a result, several months ago I developed my own law: McFadden’s Law. I’ve used it with some success several times this summer on the news boards! You can see it at http://encyclopedia.smokersclub.com/265.html
I think that in the area of climate change, you’re likely to see these sorts of attacks increase as your opponents realize that it is difficult or impossible to really win a debate when the argument stays purely in the realm of science and when you have an equal shot at the public microphone. The problem you face, similar to the problem that Free Choice activists have faced over the years, is convincing larger numbers of people to actually read, hear, and think about the facts and the science that you’re presenting them with. It’s too easy for most people to simply choose to stay with the “safe” opinion: i.e. the opinion that the “established authorities” say is the correct one. If they agree with the climate skeptics they’re afraid they’ll be called “stupid” or “deceived” or “shills for the big corporations” or whatever and if it turns out, down the road, that they were wrong, they’ll be laughed at for their idiocy. If they agree with the establishment though, even if they’re eventually proved wrong, they can simply say, “Hey, I simply agreed with what the established scientists, experts, and organizations (i.e. supposedly the ‘smart people’) told us. You can’t blame ME!”
What I think the skeptical community really needs in order to break through that wall are some good examples of statements by the warmers that are so obviously crazy that even the average person would be embarrassed to consider them as being legitimate. And the Free Choice arena for example we will try to point to things like thirdhand smoke, or claims that half of all smoking is caused by seeing actors in movies who smoke, or huge campaigns to paint all cigarette packs puke green as an effective way to stop people from smoking. Of course there are a fair number of people out there who believe even these things nowadays! But the general point is that the main weakness of your enemy lies mainly in their lies and if you can find the most obvious lies that they tell and continue pointing them out, then, hopefully, your listeners will begin realizing that maybe a lot of the other things that they are hearing from the warmers’ camp are also lies.
Meanwhile, something like this video can actually be turned to your advantage! People who watch it and who didn’t know previously that there was any real debate going on might actually start taking a look to see what all the fuss is about and come visit WUWT!
– MJM
This is a huge honor, Anthony. No one is ever going to bother to make a Downfall parody about the rest of us. I’m sure Steve McIntyre will be too much a gentleman to hold a grudge on you getting the nod over him.
I’m of two minds about this clip. On the one hand, I’ve never seen a Downfall parody that didn’t make me laugh, and this one made me laugh loudly enough for people to come from the next room to watch it. On the other hand, it is something of a faux pas to attribute specific names to the characters – not just you, but marc morano. If it weren’t so funny, I would worry that Marc might want to sue.
Well done,Anthony. Like the old saying,you know you are over the target when you are taking flak. The biggie will be when they reference Hitler/Nazis AND call you a racist to! 🙂 As an aside,I wonder if I can get a grant to study what side of the political spectrum warmistas are on?
I originally found out this blog because youtube suggestions based on my looking at evolutionary documentaries, recommended weirdly a potholer54 (or whatever his name was) video where he responded to Lord Monckton, and the URL was in the description.
You have arrived, Sir Anthony. Congratulations,
As The Enlightened One, would you please mind telling me what the heck I’m denying? So far, I’m on record here at WUWT as denying that Greenland has warmed up to the same point as when the Vikings settled there. Beyond that, there’s not much to discuss re CAGW until we reach that point again, and I hope we do. Those were definitely the good ol’ days.
Rock on, Vikings! I’m rooting for you all to come back.
Wow – worse than Nazis! I’m amazed. I’d love to see the peer-reviewed evidence and citations of that statement. Oh, wait…
Haha… That video was hilarious!!! Thanks for posting….
Coming from a different culture I do not find it funny at all.
It is pure propaganda and libelous.
No one but someone who was a regular reader at WUWT would have the SLIGHTEST clue…of what in the world that was all about.
I, for one, welcome our new Downfall overlords.
Honestly, I laugh at almost every one of these parodies. The best is still the one about the real estate crash, but this one is pretty good, IMO.
To me, the best way to fight this is with a Downfall parody of our own. Make Mann, or Gore, or Hansen the new Hitler. That would help cause it to show up as an option when folks google for Downfall Climate Change..
But for God’s sake, let’s not be whiners.
But for Good sakes.
Nooooooo, not the mention of the Dalek! It is 2012 though,,,,(ª¿ª)
Ya just never know watt you can run into on this site.
I often wondered if the below manufacturer actually produced a Mann size version of this thing………..
Der Untergang is a 10/10 movie. Bruno Ganz’s portrayal of Hitler is one of the greatest pieces of acting one can ever see. Everyone should watch it to gain a deeper understanding of the phenomenon of meglomania. You will then better understand the mentality of CAGW proponents.
My son found this comment on a youtube video:
“everything we do is natural ??? , damaging the ozone layer, air
pollution , cfc,s , global warming , melting of the polar ice caps ,
deforestation , climate change , animals being driven to extinction
,nuclear war …. all considered natural ???? .we are not a natural
part of this planet we are only it’s guests, building cities is never
beautiful not without a cost to our delicate eco system .”
I am sure it seems thankless and exhausting sometimes – but doing the right thing eventually yields positive results in the end. WUWT has provided rational and well-documented discussion for those, such as this young man, who have been so terribly miseducated. This really is bordering on child abuse.
I think my video is funnier than theirs, just like Hitler says in my video.
I never use vulgarity I don’t think its funny it’s the lowest form of humor.
I never say Hitler is “he who should not be mentioned” I just infer it.
I thought the elf thing was funny but how how can you beat “People will not be afraid of just a stick chart”?
Plus, he never mentions Antarctica or how the North Pole was totally ice free in 1959.
To all the warmers and alarmists out there. You lot give up your computers, cars, and everything else derived from fossil fuels. If you truly believe that we are killing the planet put your money where your mouths are and you lot go back to the dark ages and leave us normal people in peace to get on with how we want to live our lives. Anb, by the way, if you lot do give up using fossil fuels that will leave all the more for the rest of us.
I an a very small cog in the huge worldwide industry that brings everyone fossil fuels and the huge benefits they bring to mankind and it pisss mee of royally to be slagged off and abused by the green brigade who use and benefit from fossil fuels as much as the rest of us.
Time will not change the tune of the f***ds. If it cools, the will blame AGW. if it warms, they will blame AGW. Being a climate f***d means never having to say you’re sorry.