Friday Funny / Quote of the week – the healing rift

I’m sure many WUWT readers on both sides of the AGW debate watched Mitt Romney’s acceptance speech last night. The most memorable line that got a standing ovation was a poke back at Obama’s famous line – “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children … this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” given at his acceptance speech in 2008.

Marc Morano of Climate Depot has the story about how some folks are upset about that. Mike Mann, since he doesn’t have anything else to do since being put on “sabbatical” is of course given the opportunity to refute. He’s the ‘go to guy’ now that Gore has imploded.

Below are selected excerpts of the Politico article. To read full article go to here. (subscription required)

Politico: Romney’s climate change remark makes waves

By Alex Guillen

8/30/12 11:29 PM EDT

Mitt Romney took a shot at President Barack Obama’s climate change position during his acceptance speech Thursday.

“President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet,” Romney said after accepting the GOP’s presidential nomination in Tampa, drawing laughter from the crowd. “My promise is to help you and your family.”

The line received a standing ovation.

Romney was referring to now-famous remarks Obama made in 2008 after securing the Democratic nomination. “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children … this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

A needless slam on science? That’s how it appeared to Penn State climate researcher Michael Mann.

“How sad it is to witness such fallacious logic from a major party candidate for president,” Mann, one of the nation’s best-known climate researchers, told POLITICO. “If we do not take the necessary actions to combat climate change now, we will of course be leaving our children and grandchildren the legacy of a degraded planet.”

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Marc Morano, publisher of the climate skeptic blog Climate Depot, predicted that Romney’s line from Thursday’s speech will be memorable.

“Kudos to Romney for an accurate framing of the global warming debate,” he said. “Romney’s quip will serve to remind voters just how lofty Obama’s rhetoric once was. Romney’s reminder of Obama’s promise to command the oceans will be one of the most memorable lines of the speech.”

Romney’s speech also included a reiteration of his promise to achieve North American energy independence by 2020 “by taking full advantage of our oil and coal and gas and nuclear and renewables.”

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I agree with Dr. Michael Mann, candidate Obama’s statement about healing the planet was indeed “fallacious logic”, especially in lieu of his track record on climate now. – Anthony

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MarkW
August 31, 2012 11:21 am

Barbee says:
August 31, 2012 at 7:49 am
Wouldn’t burning people at the stake increase their carbon footprints?

MikeN
August 31, 2012 11:22 am

Hasn’t sea level dropped since then?

William Astley
August 31, 2012 11:26 am

Obama cannot and did not change the sea level rise. The sea level rise based on tidal gauge has not changed. The unadjusted satellite data shows the sea level rise is over. There is no sea level problem to solve.
There is no extreme AGW problem to solve. (The earth’s response to a change in forcing is to increase planetary clouds in the tropics – negative feedback – rather than the IPCCs’ assumed positive feedback. The warming due to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 is less than 1C if the feedback response is negative rather than positive.)
Obama can double the price of electricity by EPA legislation. The agenda behind the legislation to double the price of electricity and to double the price of gasoline is carbon dioxide and AGW fearmongering. “Green energy” is a very, very, expensive scam that does not significantly change carbon dioxide emissions which are not a problem anyway. Basic economics and engineering calculations of CO2 reduced based Vs CO2 required to construct and maintain the green facilities do no support the expenditure. Carbon dioxide emissions continue to increase in the world. China now emits 30% more carbon dioxide than the US. As China uses cheap coal to generate electricity.
Doubling the price of electricity, massive unfunded increases in public spending, legislated benefits, makes the US unable to compete with Asia. The good jobs are moving to Asia. The US is being turned into a version of the EU. Actions have consequences. The US is failing.
Romney’s point is Obama’s policy destroys jobs and has no affect on the sea level and no significant affect on planetary temperature.

lurker, passing through laughing.
August 31, 2012 11:27 am

Mann is such a thin skinned maroon.
Romney’s point is that Obama has wasted his Presidency on trying to control the oceans, instead of helping Americans.
Romney is setting a goal to do things that actually help Americans.
Tilting at the oceans should be left for King Canute, Caligula and Obama.
Worrying about the oceans is great for rent seeking folk like Mann.

ldd
August 31, 2012 11:32 am

@Sun spot, well “duh”; that’s rather obvious from your link…and so what? So are the many TIDE members they have on CDN LSM lately…soros money with their UN agenda to try and harm our economy, next.

papiertigre
August 31, 2012 11:33 am

Pat’s link; about BBC: Richard Black’s Farewell
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19422041
Romney’s speech already claimed it’s first scalp. He ain’t even in the White House yet.

Zeke
August 31, 2012 11:35 am

Romney visited Solyndra in a surprise stop on the campaign trail. His charge is that the Obama administration did not deliver on it’s promise to create green jobs. By “picking winners,” Obama did not “attract investors” into the solar industry.
My family cannot afford any help from mandate politicians such as Romney. I cannot afford Romneycare, which is running billions over projected costs in Ma, and I cannot afford energy mandates, not even 20/20, ie 20% co2 reductions by 2020. Using the government to “level the playing field” and “attract investors” into worthless wind and solar is not going to help my family. Look at Europe, Oz and Canada. No conservative party opposes AGW and renewables any more.

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 11:50 am

polistra says:
August 31, 2012 at 7:40 am
Romney is a Gaian. He’s doing a good job of reciting random Republican soundbites now, but he’ll return to his true church if he’s elected. They always do.
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Yes I agree.
All you have to do is read his actual statements to see he supports the belief in CAGW. He represents the Hegalian “Synthesis.” The Political Compromise between the Thesis – CAGW and the AntiThesis – any change in the climate is natural.
He is EXACTLY what Shell, BP, and ENRON were working towards in the first place!
Do not forget Shell, BP, other energy providers and even Exxon have funded CAGW some from the very start.
This is a first person report of ENRON getting into the act.

… My recollection is that it was my first day on the job when I walked into my boss’s office in Enron’s suite across from the White House, smack into a meeting between her and who I now know to be two of the Natural Resources Defense Council’s senior DC officials. OK. But the next day I was tasked with sitting in for “Kenny Boy” [ENRON CEO Ken Lay] at a meeting in fancy New York law firm offices (in DC), around a table of Baptists and Bootleggers, rent-seekers and green puritans, discussing how to ensure a global warming treaty came about, of our collective design, and how to rope the U.S. in.
So, seeing very measured groups like Union of Concerned Scientists on my immediate left, I turned to one of the rent-seekers’ officers on my right, among whom I recall being the American Gas Association, Niagara-Mohawk Power, and BP, among others. In response to my query, “what are we doing sitting around a table with a bunch of people who want to put us out of business?”, I was told with a laugh, “they want to put coal out of business first.”
Lovely people, these folks kind enough to introduce me to the world’s second-oldest profession of trying to make one’s fortune off of policy favors from buddies in government instead of by innovation or competition. Frederic Bastiat, phone your office….
Gore’s Inconvenient Enron

So where is Mitt Romney on Killing Coal and promoting natural gas… with US tax dollars of course.

…“First, I will pursue dramatic regulatory reform to accelerate the exploration and development of oil and gas, to facilitate construction of vital infrastructure and to preserve and expand crucial electricity capacity. I will streamline permitting processes and create fixed timelines….
“We’re using too much oil,” Romney said. “We have an answer. We can use alternative sources of energy — biodiesel, ethanol, nuclear power — and we can drill for more oil here. We can be more energy independent and we can be far more efficient in the use of that energy.” ”
http://aboutmittromney.com/energy.htm

And what is his point of view on Coal?

…“With regards to our developing more energy, I want to see us use more of our renewable resources: bio-diesel, bio-fuel, ethanol, cellulosic ethanol. I want to see us developing liquefied coal if we can sequester the CO2 properly. I want to see nuclear power. I want to see us develop our own oil off-shore, and in Anwar. Let’s develop all the sources we can to provide for our own energy needs and free ourselves of independence on Ahmadinejad, and Chavez and Putin and others that have that oil today….
http://aboutmittromney.com/environment.htm

And what about the use of American Tax dollars to do all this promotion?

“On the other side of the equation, in addition to developing our energy, we have to be more efficient in our use of it. And that means more fuel efficient vehicles. It means more energy efficient homes. The combination of more efficiency and the generation of more domestic-sourced energy will allow us to become energy independent. And we do need an Apollo type project. A Manhattan style project where we put in place the funding necessary to seriously get on track to becoming truly energy independent. And that has as the benefit, of reducing our emissions of CO2.” http://aboutmittromney.com/environment.htm

So as usual we get the choice that is not really a choice and continue to move in the direction the sheep herding wolves are directing us.
For where that destination is check out this VIDEO on UN Agenda 21 implementation in the USA by a California bureaucrat. I see nothing in Romney’s rhetoric to make me think he is actually “off message” all that has been done is a bit of repackaging. Obama was the extreme to scare us into a compromise that is further along the chosen path then we would have agreed to go of our own free will.
From GRIST of all places.

Everyone knows that “Obamacare” was modeled on Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts health-care law. But did you know that a key Obama “smart growth” initiative — the Partnership for Sustainable Communities — was also created in the mold of a Romney program?

Mitt Romney: Smart Growth Champion?
“Smart Growth” and “Sustainable Development” are the code words for UN Agenda 21. You will not find anything saying Mitt supports Agenda 21 but you will find references that he supports “Smart Growth” and “Sustainable Development.”
Unfortunately voting for a third candidate is only a vote FOR Obama so with the greatest of reluctance I will hold my nose ad cast a vote for Romney. At least with a first four year term he will try not to be too outrageous. Meanwhile the real fight is getting those Official State Ban on UN Agenda 21.

Mac the Knife
August 31, 2012 11:50 am

President Obama, 2009:
“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children … this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
Whilst his current campaign slogan is ‘Forward’, Our Dear Leader made many thing go
‘Barack-ward’,!
– The strength of the US economy.
– Employment, for all segments of the US population.
– Average Incomes for US citizens.
– Ethnic, gender, age, and class concomity.
– Respect for US leadership on the world stage.
– Military preparedness and capability.
– Respect for the President…..
We can only hope that more citizens will embrace the ethos of Dr. King and judge this man based on the content of his deeply flawed character, his destructively divisive politics, his pathetically poor performance record…. and not the color of his skin. If they can, we will have new leadership elected in November.
If not, the US will have 4 more years of going tragically and perhaps terminally
‘Barack-ward’,…..

danj
August 31, 2012 11:51 am

Obama should read Shelley’s poem Ozymandias…

August 31, 2012 11:52 am

Zeke,
To be practical, you only have a choice between Romney “The Fixer”, and Obama, who is owned lock, stock and barrel by the enviro-lobby.
Romney’s priority is getting the hobbled economy growing again. With Obama, you would get four more years of ever more radical actions. And you can be certain that Obama isn’t showing his cards. Fool us once, etc.
You have already seen how Obama ignores Congress, issuing Executive Orders when he can’t get his legislation passed [the Dream Act is a good example. When it didn’t pass, Obama issued an EO requiring the same open borders].
You have a rare chance to help fix things. Don’t blow it just because someone isn’t 100% perfect in your eyes.

Dave_G
August 31, 2012 11:57 am

The pro-AGW BBC cut the precursor “President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet,” from the “My promise is to help you and your family.” quote….
Sickening really.

more soylent green!
August 31, 2012 12:03 pm

Zeke says:
August 31, 2012 at 11:35 am
Romney visited Solyndra in a surprise stop on the campaign trail. His charge is that the Obama administration did not deliver on it’s promise to create green jobs. By “picking winners,” Obama did not “attract investors” into the solar industry.
My family cannot afford any help from mandate politicians such as Romney. I cannot afford Romneycare, which is running billions over projected costs in Ma, and I cannot afford energy mandates, not even 20/20, ie 20% co2 reductions by 2020. Using the government to “level the playing field” and “attract investors” into worthless wind and solar is not going to help my family. Look at Europe, Oz and Canada. No conservative party opposes AGW and renewables any more.

Romney wants to repeal ObamaCare, he believes the federal government cannot lawfully mandate that some one purchases a product. He supports a market-oriented replacement to ObamaCare. So what are you talking about?
If you’re talking about mandates, Obama is your man.
And who is that opposes renewables?

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 12:05 pm

JEM says:
August 31, 2012 at 7:41 am
Oops – MSNBC!
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What is hysterical is MSNBC is owned by General Electric. But then General Electric’s CEO, Jeffrey Immelt, Is head of Obama’s highly touted “Jobs Council”,

….[ Jeffrey Immelt] is moving even more GE infrastructure to China. GE makes more medical-imaging machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it <b."is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing". Apparently, this is all part of a “plan to invest about $2 billion across China” over the next few years. But moving core pieces of its business overseas is nothing new for GE. Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States. Perhaps GE should change its slogan to “Imagination At Work (In China)”. If the very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to turn around any time soon? GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, The Head Of Obama’s Jobs Council, Is Moving Jobs And Economic Infrastructure To China At A Blistering Pace

I hope Mitt has plans for picking someone who is not so visibly a mismatch for that job.

more soylent green!
August 31, 2012 12:05 pm

Romney was making two points
1) Obama is arrogant and full of hubris.
2) The President of the USA is supposed to represent all of America’s interest, not the international eco-lobby’s interest.

Zeke
August 31, 2012 12:06 pm

You are certainly welcome to your opinion that your only choice is to become Europe, Astralia and Canada, with no differences between the parties in energy and health mandates Smokey. But this is not something I am willing to do voluntarily. We have Congress and governors to fight, to go down fighting AGW and wind turbines.
The presidency is now too big and deformed to be of use to real Americans.
Romney is a mandate politician. I am simply opposing health and energy mandates as I always have. Awareness of these facts about Romney can only be a help to you. Forwarned is forarmed.
(And then there was this.)
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-rush-freaks-20120112,0,16119.story
“This week, in an interview on CBS, Romney defended himself against critics of his work at Bain Capital by equating what he did as a corporate restructuring specialist with Obama’s temporary takeover of General Motors and Chrysler in 2009. “In the general election,” Romney said, “I’ll be pointing out that the president took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler – closed factories, closed dealerships, laid off thousands and thousands of workers – he did it to try to save the business.”

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 12:18 pm

pat says:
August 31, 2012 at 8:19 am
Friday funny II:
31 Aug: BBC: Richard Black
Farewell and thanks for reading
This is my last entry for this page – I’m leaving the BBC to work, initially, on ocean conservation issues….
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So the Black Bell Wether is leading the way to the next catastrophic crisis.
For those who do not know what a wether is here are how to instructions. (Caution place drinks on table before reading)

Zeke
August 31, 2012 12:29 pm

“Repeal and replace.” That refers to keeping the backbone of Romney/Obamacare in place: exchanges. Go fish.

wsbriggs
August 31, 2012 12:32 pm

One more time, we’ll see people vote “because we can’t let HIM win,” and one more time people will find out that the political class wants to be elected, they want power, and they’d do anything, say anything to get it. It’s not about the ideas, it’s about the power.
The best convention analysis occurred on Fox Business News after the close with the John Stossel show. It was past most people’s bedtime.
Yes, the treatment of Ron Paul’s delegates was a travesty. Unlike Trenberth’s inability to find the heat.

Zeke
August 31, 2012 12:35 pm

I said nothing inaccurate, unreferenced, or unkind to you Smokey. This is for the record, regarding my lost reply.

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 12:37 pm

j molloy says:
August 31, 2012 at 9:31 am
barbee they can’t burn you the stake , it would release too much Co2 😉
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No they have prison camps in mind where slave labor replaces mechanical energy. Sort of the reverse of the industrial revolution that freed us from slavery in the first place.
Why no one ever links the industrial revolution and oil with the abolition of slavery and advertises it in big screaming letter I do not know.
It would have made a better Heartland billboard than the one they used.

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 12:49 pm

lurker, passing through laughing. says:
August 31, 2012 at 11:27 am
….Tilting at the oceans should be left for King Canute, Caligula and Obama.
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I thought he was closer to Don Quixote with Nancy Pelosi as Sancho. I will leave to the imagination who the other two in the picture represent.

Mark in Sandy Eggo
August 31, 2012 12:50 pm

On vein that went through Romney’s speech (and even most of the speeches before his) was the common American family. Whatever you think of President Obama, he had a pretty bizarre childhood compared to most Americans. He only saw his father once (whom he idealized) and his mother was gone much of his childhood in a desire to live in third world conditions as he was raised by his grandparents. He lived in Indonesia a time, until his mother decided to leave his stepfather because he became too capitalist.
I’m sorry, but I know absolutely no one who would have made the choices that Stanley Dunham made as young Barack was growing up. Do we believe that upbringing and abandonment by parents have no bearing on the people we become? If so, there is a huge area of study called psychology that is a crock.

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 1:14 pm

Mac the Knife says:
August 31, 2012 at 11:50 am
President Obama, 2009:
“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children … this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
Whilst his current campaign slogan is ‘Forward’, Our Dear Leader made many thing go
‘Barack-ward’,!…
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I just came across this article reporting on a PEW report showing:
* middle class has shrunk drastically over the last 10 years
* Americans’ net worth has plunged (dropped from $129,582 to $93,150 )
* wages declined
* standards of living slipped
* household wealth declined by 35 percent to $66,740 between 2005 and 2010
* median family net worth dropped from $126,400 to $77,300 (2007 – 2010)
* median household income has fallen from $72,956 to $69,487 (2001 – 2010)

Pew’s survey found more of the middle class support Obama’s policies than Romney’s.
More than half (52 percent) of those polled said Obama’s policies would help the middle class in a second term, while 39 percent say they would not. Forty-two percent said Romney would benefit middle income Americans if elected, while 40 percent say his policies would not help, the survey showed….
Researchers said they found that “neither candidate has sealed the deal with them”….
….62 percent of respondents said Congress deserved “a lot” of the blame for the nation’s economic troubles over the past decade, while 29 percent blamed lawmakers “a little.” Banks and financial institutions as well as large corporations were also largely at fault…
the recent Great Recession that officially ran from December 2007 to June 2009, ending just six months into Obama’s first term….

The brain washing seems to still be holding strong unfortunately.

Gail Combs
August 31, 2012 1:15 pm