Here’s a fun little puzzle for you, two older station siting photographs from former California State Climatologist, Jim Goodridge, circa the 1980’s. I had Jim find these because I was recently interviewed for a national network newscast, and when I told the story of them, the reporter wanted these photos. Jim found them attached on an old paper presented at a climate conference, which I hope to share here soon after I get it scanned in.
One is a place of Science, one is place of Transportation, both in California.
Answers tomorrow
UPDATE: Answers here – http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/16/never-before-published-paper-on-uhi-and-siting-goodridge-1987/
But as they are obviously both rural sites there cannot possibly be any UHI to worry about.
On a related topic, I was having trouble explaining TOBs adjustments to a friend as I couldn’t see what difference is made to the trend by what time you read a Max/Min thermometer. Is there an idiots guide in the archive you could point me to?
I just KNOW that Hansen will have implemented an alogorithm to re adjust any adverse effect of the non incinerator site.
So from stations like these BEST can draw a trend of .58 +_ 0.094 deg C per century.
It’s a good job this isn’t real :
He’d never get out of California….
Re previous post:
Youngest Wayback Machine capture from 4/28/2011 looks like the 1/26/2011 one and is similar to those in 2008. Webmaster note says after Kristen Byrnes was mentioned in an April 2008 NPR story, her site was overloaded and shut down. So her work was moved to the “Global Warming Hoax” site. A few clicks later, here’s the index. Unfortunately, the “Follies in Global Warming Measuring” series, which would have the pics, is 404, as well as her definitive groundbreaking “Ponder the Maunder” essay. Good news, her famous debunking of An Inconvenient Truth is there, as well as an expose of Jimmy Hansen.
However the Wayback Machine does have some of that lost content from Global Warming Hoax.
Index
Ponder the Maunder essay (painfully partial)
Follies in Measuring Global Warming (first page “intro” only, no pics)
Follies in Measuring Global Warming II: New England Colleges (one page, complete)
Follies in Measuring Global Warming III: Hansen’s Lights = 0 Temperature Stations In New England (complete)
Follies in Measuring Global Warming IV: Competence (Note: by the text there is one pic missing, which seems to be the one of the Eastport Maine station used at the end of Anthony’s Climate Audit post, so I’ll call it complete.)
Good reading, what’s there, grateful for it. I would however like to know where the missing stuff can be found.
The penultimate benefit of P-Books is that inconvenient truths cannot be easily disappeared. The attempts of previous tyrannies still echo down the corridors of history. See Fahrenheit 451. Use e-communications advisedly with caution and understanding.
kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
August 16, 2012 at 12:56 am
Kristen was a very enthusiastic and very sharp kid from Maine who garnered a fair amount of attention whith her skeptical view. She was very active when the SurfaceStations project started and I noticed in the acknowledgments in Anthony’s new paper that he included Kirsten, a nice touch.
OTOH, I had gone off and printed maps for all the USHCN stations in NH and was going to record them all. That little twirp went off and got to all of them before I did. Grr. 🙂 I did get photos of the station in Durham.
She evenually left the the skeptics community for other interests, and I have no idea what she’s up to now, but I’m sure it’s good stuff. I expect her to appear in some venue any month now.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/04/15/kristen-byrnes-interview-on-npr/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/01/12/happy-birthday-kristen-byrnes/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2007/07/21/how-not-to-measure-temperature-part-22/
Oh. My. God!
Well I’ll be… So Big Climate thought they’d better knock up an original Stevenson Screen to put us off the trail but they thought it was named after Robert Louis.
It figures, but unfortunately if we stick the thermometer back in in its rightful box they’ll simply adjust the temp record to their nearest hysterical one.
One slightly used Hockey Stick burner available, buyer to collect from CA_COOP_station1
It should be obvious to any of you who have had design experience that the ladder rungs had an icing issue.
Grant says:
August 16, 2012 at 6:57 am
> … the ladder rungs had an icing issue.
In the second photo? I expected to see dents from being bashed with a hammer. I note things aren’t quite square, but that could be a ladder meant to fold up by having the rungs pivot. Would be awful on a long ladder, but for the application at hand okay.
I think that’s a Taylor Max/Min thermometer in the enclosure, nice little thermometer with scales that can be repositioned, but not really “pro” quality.
I have one that’s at least 30 years old. They’re still available, I believe. I found what might be the exact replacement magnets at Radio Shack.
OT
Tesla’s Lab and 6.4 hectares of land at Wardenclyffe in Shoreham, NY is for sale again at price US $1.6million. New York is contributing 850,000 in order to be restored as Tesla’s museum.
An appeal by WUWT would raise a bit extra, and I would be willing to contribute and hopefully visit some day.
Currently it is just a building full of junk
but miracles do happen, there are few more deserving scientists than Nikola Tesla.
The first one is clearly a mountain top somewhere in South California. Possibly Palomar or one of the peaks in the area. The top one appears to be high mountain location. I think I’ve actually seen that shed but I can’t remember if it is on 80, or 70 after you pass Quincy and head back south east.
That second one… oh man, that looks like the screen is in danger of catching fire!!! I wonder if it has scorch marks on that side?
Now, why doesn’t someone just cut out the middleman and sell BBQ’s and incinerators with built-in weather stations!?!?!? It’s obviously where the trend is heading.
BTW, I’m thinking of volunteering my home as a site for a weather station. I think a Stevenson screen would look rather nice in my living room.
If the overnight low averages are declining, and the day temps have risen, now we no why. 🙂
Never been to any of those locations, but will say the first is south of the second, which is more easterly.
http://phys.org/news/2012-08-universities-require-students-e-textbooks.html
First picture- U. C. Berkeley campus up in the hills?
Classic.
So if somebody can find a picture of one next to the liquid nitrogen storage tanks some-place, will it all ‘average-out’?
Perhaps not in California, but you’d be surprised how much of “red” America still disposes of combustible trash by burning it “out back”.
Somewhat OT, but not sure where else to ask: How can you tell if you have a station nearby? I pass by something that may or may not be one on my daily commute. Is there one anywhere near the town of Clayton, NC?
Wow. I’ve spent the last couple of hours reading all the Kristen Byrnes stuff and I’m reeling from shock. At age 15 she could without bias be called a child and yet she displays maturity found in few adults. My guide to avoiding sexist language says that a 15 year old female still at school may safely be called a girl. Gasp, choke! My male ego has taken a bashing and may never recover.
Hoser said:
“It’s been a long time, but the top one might be Mt. Hamilton, Lick Observatory. That might be the astronomer’s dormatory behind the car. Yikes, 25 years since I’ve been there.”
I’ll join Hoser and cast a sentimental vote for Mt. Hamilton. And I haven’t been there for 38 years! (Rode my bicycle from Sunnyvale.) Current photos show some red tile roofed buildings.
These pictures are surely not real are they? Even the most bone headed, single brain cell, numbscull taking the readings would realise that his recordings would be a load of bollocks. I never cease to be amazed about how bad these stations are. I used to visit my local airport (Elmdon, Birmingham, UK) with my Dad in the 50’s to see one of the two or three Douglas Dakotas arrive – great excitement! Now Birmingham International has acres of concrete and many flights a day – I hope it’s temperature recordings are not used in the dataset!
@Grimwig says: “These pictures are surely not real are they?”
Here’s a quotation I used to include in my Intro Stats exams:
— Anonymous English Judge quoted by Sir Josiah Stamp in Some Economic
Matters in Modern Life (1929)
I didn’t know Yamal was in CA! Learn something new everyday.