Friday Funny: Dr. Michael Mann keeps interesting company

I had to laugh when I saw this post from climate blog regular caerbannog666 re-tweeted by Dr. Michael Mann:

That iron lung comment piqued my interest, and I wondered who is this guy? A well known climate blog regular, he’s been bloviating all over the climate blogs for years. After finding him though about a minute’s worth of Googling public information, I wish I could unsee what I found. Meet Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog)

Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog) on Myspace

http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos

http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/17286555

http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/4486705#{%22ImageId%22%3A4486705}

UPDATE: In retrospect, it should be noted that people are free to dress up any way they want, whether it be in the dark style above, or as a superhero like Professor Scott Mandia (aka SuperMandia), leader of Michael Mann’s legal defense fund to keep those public emails from falling into the hands on an inquiring public.

I just find it humorous that Dr. Mann’s supporters are so, er, emotive.

 

UPDATE: 7/16/2012 Caebannog writes at his UT San Diego Forum:

Note: I will neither confirm nor deny that I am this individual.

 

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kim
July 13, 2012 2:13 pm

I’m amused that the great Michael Mann directs to Skeptical Science. Bring on the clowns.
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H.R.
July 13, 2012 2:14 pm

anonymous says:
July 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm
“Jonas Salk’s vaccine was infected with the SV40 monkey virus which causes cancer, he may have been responsible for killing millions, so maybe our gothic friend’s analogy makes more sense than you realise. Its a death thang!”
Credible references please. I’m skeptical.

KR
July 13, 2012 2:19 pm

papiertigre – If you want to engage Caerbannog, do so on the merits of his discussion with respect to the science, such as his independent reconstruction of surface temperatures from both raw and homogenized data as discussed at http://forums.utsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=111201
Rather than the stream of insults you seem to think substitute for a factual discussion.
REPLY: Yet you ignore all the “denier” insults in his article, as if they are OK. Double standard there anonymous KR. – Anthony

dave38
July 13, 2012 2:19 pm

Caerbannog goes further back than Monty Python. In welsh legend Caerbannog was the castle of the lord of the underworld, and where the souls of heroes went after death to be part of the Wild Hunt

clipe
July 13, 2012 2:35 pm

Paul Westhaver says:
July 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm
in other words…
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Chapter 13, verse 11
Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
Chapter 14, verse 20

Stuff I did as a child includes snowboarding, rock climbing, triathalon, mountain biking and being an all purpose get-about.
Today? They give medals and awards to adults for discovering and living the chidhood they never had.

Frank Kotler
July 13, 2012 2:38 pm

The man’s thoughts are a lot more important than the way he looks. If there appears to be a connection… so be it.

Glenn
July 13, 2012 2:52 pm

Prolonged heat exhaustion and dehydration (also a consequence of globbel warming) causes irreversable harm to almost all species. 30 years ago no member of the species looked like that. Now there are similar disfunctional behaviors and appearances everywhere, occuring more often and more extreme, that endanger the survival of the species. The climate is changing far too rapidly for species to adapt or migrate. Face it, the guy is the very picture of AGWs.

July 13, 2012 2:59 pm

Hey Joe B where yer going with those pork chops in yer hand

clipe
July 13, 2012 3:03 pm

Glenn says:
July 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Prolonged heat exhaustion and dehydration (also a consequence of globbel warming) causes irreversable harm to almost all species. 30 years ago no member of the species looked like that. Now there are similar disfunctional behaviors and appearances everywhere, occuring more often and more extreme, that endanger the survival of the species. The climate is changing far too rapidly for species to adapt or migrate. Face it, the guy is the very picture of AGWs.

I recognize satire when I see it. Others may not.

Kevin Schurig
July 13, 2012 3:04 pm

Since no one else has offer any, I will. A round of eye bleach, my treat.
http://eyebleach.com/ – for the men
http://guybleach.com/ – for the women
http://www.funnypuppysite.com/ – and for the family

Gary Hladik
July 13, 2012 3:06 pm

Jimmy Haigh. says (July 13, 2012 at 7:58 am): “Can you imagine if this wierdo and “Superman” Scott Mandia got together?”
I don’t know what their offspring would look like, but I’m betting they’d name it “Damien”. (“Al Gore” is taken.)

clipe
July 13, 2012 3:22 pm
July 13, 2012 3:26 pm

An appropriate post for Friday the 13th, I would say.
For those who complain that things like that have no relevance to science:
Modern crisis in all scientific disciplines has, first and foremost, moral and cultural roots.
When you wonder, why compulsive liars, Gore and Mann, safely prosper in our society, think Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga.

chrisd3
July 13, 2012 3:33 pm


I’m amused that the great Michael Mann directs to Skeptical Science. Bring on the clowns.
If you had simply checked Twitter, you would have known that someone asked him for a list of Climategate investigations, and he linked to a page on SkepticalScience that contains such a list.
Is there a problem with that?

sergeiMK
July 13, 2012 4:11 pm

oh dear. You’ve fingered the wrong man!
http://climateandstuff.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/tony-at-wuwt-tredding-fine-line-again.html
Your picture is of a brazilian hevy metal band person in his 20’s. The Caerbannog you require is American and in his 50’s
Perhaps a bit more googling is required!
REPLY: Maybe, but the title of his album is “Mine Old Pics” so they may well be many years old. Since the guy is just another anonymous phantom with a silly handle (albeit a very unique one)it is hard to tell about these snipers. Reading his comment feed though he certainly doesn’t act in his 50’s, and the IP address is in the USA as satted in his YouTube Profile where “climate and stuff” got that info. If caerbannog666 wants to reveal himself so we can verify who he his, I’ll gladly make a correction if warranted. – Anthony

papiertigre
July 13, 2012 4:35 pm

KR says:
July 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm
papiertigre – If you want to engage Caerbannog, do so on the merits of his discussion with respect to the science, such as his independent reconstruction of surface temperatures from both raw and homogenized data as discussed at http://forums.utsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=111201
He has 8 pages of people telling him where to get off, already. You don’t need me over there.
Tell you what KR. You pick out the Caerbannog argument that you like the best, then you tell me why it’s good stuff over here.
Until then I’ll stick with the insults. Did you know that Tom Karl for years passed himself off as a Doctor?

charles nelson
July 13, 2012 4:43 pm

KR…I’ve just wasted 5 or more precious minutes checking out Caerbannog666’s ‘reconstruction of temperatures etc’. Was very amused when someone asked him to ‘show his work’ ie the spreadsheet, data sets, algorythms etc which he used to produce his Hockey Stick. Needless to say he wasn’t forthcoming. He really does have a lot in common with m.e.mann!

David Ross
July 13, 2012 4:58 pm

Actually global warming proponents displayed much the same traits in the 1950’s as they do now.
Regarding Jonas Salk and Roger Revelle, Revelle’s Wikipedia page states:
“Revelle’s struggle to acquire land for the new campus put him in competition with Jonas Salk, and Revelle lost some of what he called the “best piece of land we had” on UCSD’s eventual Torrey Pines site to the fledgling Salk Institute. In later years Revelle continued to show some animosity toward Salk, once saying, “He is a folk hero, even though he is… not very bright.”[5] ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle#cite_ref-4
However, the source cited is not online.

rogerknights
July 13, 2012 5:27 pm

Jimmy Haigh. says:
July 13, 2012 at 7:58 am
Can you imagine if this wierdo and “Superman” Scott Mandia got together?

Mandia should call himself, jokingly of course, Supermandia.
This Weirdo looks like one of Dick Tracy’s villains.

July 13, 2012 5:48 pm


I’m amused that the great Michael Mann directs to Skeptical Science. Bring on the clowns.
chrisd3 says July 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm
If you had simply checked Twitter, you would have known that someone asked him for a list of Climategate investigations, and he linked to a page on SkepticalScience that contains such a list.
Is there a problem with that?

A hypothetical, chrisd3, if I may:
How adverse do you reckon Michael Mann would be to providing such a link to websites like Bishop Hill or Climate Audit on a scale of 1 (Hell shall freeze over first!) to 10 (Yes, any time and anywhere, openly and by my own free will under no duress or stress in conscience whatsoever) where the results of those investigations are discussed openly and freely without the heavy-handed moderation and adulteration of poster comments seen as sites like SkS?
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Editor
July 13, 2012 5:55 pm

LittleBadBear and the Norway Rat don’t seem to understand what the ad hominem fallacy is. It means to counter someone’s ARGUMENT by attacking the person. This post is not rebutting any argument. It is about Caerbannog’s ridiculous SNARK, and Mann’s yuk-yukking approval of it. It’s all about the hominems, who invited the attention on Twitter no less. Wait until these idiots make an argument to say that it is out of place to make fun of their prancing public foolishness.

leftinbrooklyn
July 13, 2012 5:55 pm

wobble says:
July 13, 2012 at 10:37 am
‘This is Anthony’s website. If he wants to maintain a Friday Funny post, then that’s his prerogative. Certainly, you can’t claim that the Friday Funny is somehow causing a shortage of hard science posts. Personally, I think the Friday Funny provides a good dynamic mixed in with the dozens of posts that are provided every week.’
All true. I, in fact, actually missed that this was a ‘Friday Funny.’ In saying that however, it still seems that the ‘fun’ and well deserved ridicule is usually aimed, justifiably, at their ridiculous ‘science’. This gives the appearance at least, of be aimed somewhere else. Yes, the guy looks ridiculous in my opinion. Have I ever looked silly? Absolutely. Let’s just make sure our targets are, more often than not, the proper ones.

Justthinkin
July 13, 2012 6:15 pm

Lighten up folks.Like a few others said,it’s Friday Funny!
As to the ad homenim stuff,in this case(IMHO) I think the only people getting upset are those who are deniers that they believe Mikey MouseMann and can’t admit it. This stuff is public domain.Public.Get it?
And as for those stating we denying skeptics should be above the Warmnistas,remember….NOT showing up to riot is a failed Conservative(skeptic)policy. They deserve scorn,ridicule,laughter and every other taunt we can throw at them.And it will all be based in fact,not emotions,like the eco-nuts.

uninformedLuddite
July 13, 2012 6:24 pm

He’s a drummer too.

chrisd3
July 13, 2012 7:36 pm


What does any of that have to do with anything? ‘caps741’ asked for a list of the investigations, and such a list was conveniently available on the SkepticalScience page. End of story. Mountains, molehills, etc.