I had to laugh when I saw this post from climate blog regular caerbannog666 re-tweeted by Dr. Michael Mann:
That iron lung comment piqued my interest, and I wondered who is this guy? A well known climate blog regular, he’s been bloviating all over the climate blogs for years. After finding him though about a minute’s worth of Googling public information, I wish I could unsee what I found. Meet Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog)
Caesar Augustus Rossi Carvalho (Caerbannog) on Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/17286555
http://www.myspace.com/caerbannog666/photos/4486705#{%22ImageId%22%3A4486705}
UPDATE: In retrospect, it should be noted that people are free to dress up any way they want, whether it be in the dark style above, or as a superhero like Professor Scott Mandia (aka SuperMandia), leader of Michael Mann’s legal defense fund to keep those public emails from falling into the hands on an inquiring public.
I just find it humorous that Dr. Mann’s supporters are so, er, emotive.
UPDATE: 7/16/2012 Caebannog writes at his UT San Diego Forum:
Note: I will neither confirm nor deny that I am this individual.
Every cause, both right and wrong, attracts some ridiculous people. Drawing attention to those people does not constitute an argument against their views. However, it does have some entertainment value. I don’t think anyone here believes Anthony is presenting the ridiculousness of Mr. Carvhalo’s writings or of his penchant for transgressive cosplay as constituting an argument against Prof. Mann’s views on climate or on transparency in publicly-funded research.
Rattus,
Caesar put out those images of himself and actively promotes his creepy gothe on-line persona, nobody is twisting his arm. I am well with norms to say, look…this is how this guy wants to be perceived…this is his self image.
He clearly suffers a reasoning deficit to think that his choice of clown make-up serves his stated political interests.
Weird that you zoomed in on and was critical about what you think was ad hominem, Sort of Ironic. What Caesar thinks about his politics is painted on his face for all to see. That decision by him to do that is consistent and germane to what comes out of his mouth.
Need to put this up so I’m not confused with the other Jeff. Retweeting someone’s comment, IS in effect keeping company with them, as you’re implicitly validating/endorsing their comment/ideas, and, by extension, them. As another commenter put, the 666 label
should have been an indication of what might be at hand. Perhaps this is one case
where the devil is in the details….
Having said that, it appears that Mann is really having to reach to get supporters
for his increasingly questionable methods, viewpoints, and criticisms of others.
Those who ‘adjust’ the past will have no hope for the future (i.e. it’s Mann who
is in denial (of MWP, etc.) not skeptics)…
Also from Mann’s Twitter feed:
“@PaulREhrlich Thanks Paul–means a lot coming from a hero & guiding light for all of us engaged in efforts to communicate environmental risk”
Paul “WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!” Ehrlich. Yes, a fine role model for the aspiring scientist striving for objectivity.
Also, it looks as though his account is now locked.
Group pic of Mike Mann and the “Team“.
Do you think Jonas Salk would refuse to release his data?
Apropos of nothing at all (this thread is headed “Friday Funny”, after all) I happen to know that an friend of mine – an FRCO-grade organist – included the number of his favourite hymn as a discriminator in his email address.
In case that happened to be the rationale for Mr Carvalho’s “666” tag here, I notice that hymn 666 of “Complete Anglican Hymns Old and New” (the big, heavy, orange one – most hymn books don’t get much past 500) is “The Spirit lives to set us free”. Hmm: not very apt, I think. Better 665: “The spacious firmament on high”, as rather more appropriate – or dare one suggest 667: “The strife is o’er, the battle done”!
Just having fun …
OK. I’m convinced. Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is real and we have to <shut the world down right NOW and give in to One World Governance NOW or WE'RE ALL GONNA' DIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Thanks, Caesar.
(is /sarc really necessary?)
PS to the Spelling Police: Did I get DIIIIEEEEEEEE spelled correctly or is there one more E?
Imagine Richard Feynman, showing up at the space shuttle congressional hearings dressed up in an alien costume. His sober words and famous O-Ring in Ice water demo would never have been noticed.
See…. The ice water demo was theatrics…and Feynman did it right. All eyes were on that O-Ring in the glass.
Caesar, has his theatrics all wrong. He looks incredible and unbalanced.
For a guy who believes transparency in science ( & science policy that would effect us all) is a bad thing, he certainly likes to reveal a lot of himself.
But, like Jeff says above, let’s try to keep this about the science. They’re wrapped in the vicious cycle of agenda driving emotion driving absurdity. We know it, I think they know it. No real need to waste space with it here
Anthony,
OK, I get it, Having a little fun. And you put up a lot of quality posts, which is what makes this such a strong blog. They can’t all be winners.
All that said, I wish you hadn’t posted this. As I’ve said before, seemingly to your annoyance, I hold you leading skeptics to a higher standard. There’s just so much in the way of legit criticism. Better to stick with that in my opinion.
his analogy about polio is pure illogic.
it’s a nonsense framing.
the correct analogy would be “it’s like a patient for whom a doctor has prescribed radical surgery asking to see the information upon which that decision was made and the doctor (mann) refusing to provide the info so you can get a second opinion.”
if a doctor said “my magic box (whose inputs and operational parameters i refuse to share) says you have cancer” would anyone take him seriously?
our friend can dress up as little bo peep for all i care, but that sort of illogic is a sign that he is either stupid or deliberately disingenuous.
Well, yes up to a point, where what you like, but anyone who wants to stand around for hours on end in what look like thigh length rubber boots has to be a tad kinky! It’s a bit like fishermen who have a problem, because any who enjoys standing around for hours on end wearing rubber in cold running water must have a problem! 😉 HAGWE everyone!
“And are you saying it is OK for Mike Mann to point out when people put silly photos of themselves on the web for anyone to see, but not OK when I do it?”
I don’t trust Michael Mann or respect him: I try to avoid behaving like him.
Jeff says:
childish, irrelevant. retweeting someone on twitter isn’t keeping “company” with them. stick to your strengths, challenging them on the science, not playing middle school popularity games
I’m with Jeff.
If you have a problem with caerbanogg666, then address him directly. Don’t unfairly impugn him because of his association with Michael Mann.
🙂
Yeh, sure: It’s an irrelevant ad hom.
But it is also funny.
I have a hunch every village has their idiot. Be careful commenters that you do not get the paint you brush across “I wanna be Alice”, on yourself. There are many who question AGW with as much weird nonsense as this man adorns himself with.
In the interests of fairness and transparency, let me say that you can find a goofy picture of me at my LinkedIn home page.
You know Anthony, the next time I have to read some prof or administrator maintaining that in this new approach, “it’s not what you know, but what you feel” that’s important, that will be the image that goes with the mindset.
It’s not the facts. It’s not the means. It’s not the actual consequences.
That will be the face that goes along with. It’s the models and theories that matter. It’s the intentions. It’s the goals.
We are on the wrong script. Reality.
Perhaps an 1957 equivalent would be Bobby Kennedy starting his search for evidence against Jimmy Hoffa might be in people’s mind?
And we are the supposed crackpots?
Not sure this post was worth it Tony. He’s a Goth, so what? I was once.
REPLY: Yes and as a kid I had a Superman cape. I outgrew that both physically and mentally. I just think its funny. – Anthony
Well it is a photo from his own photo album so to speak. Looks like he could do with a decent feed though…. Vegan Vampires must have it tough, eh?
As for his tweet…. Now that is just plain silly. What the hell would iron lung manufacturers want with Salk’s letters? Was he hiding data in them or something?
what is truly ridiculous is that Michael Mann shamelessly re-tweets an item comparing him and his work to Jonas Salk and the polio vaccine!
For that he deserves unending ridicule….. Michael Mann is a shameless dishonest agenda-driven fanatic unfit to shine the late Jonas Salk’s shoes.
Our politically correct society is so afraid of “judging” people based on their appearance.
Bill Cosby wasn’t.
BTW, who recalls the movie Airplane when the terrorists walked right through security while the little old lady had everything done but strip searched?
“Don’t judge him by his appearance”. OH puhleeze.