David Karoly – leader of the 'climate underground'?

The Weather Underground’s operatives were responsible for robbing an armoured van and killing and wounding the guards….. Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers where also Weather Underground members, they also happen to be linked to Barack Obama in Chicago….. Socialism. Keeps trying to modernize the same bad idea… They call themselves “Progressives” now.
Progressive Socialism…. There’s an oxymoron if there ever was one. But you gotta hand it to them…. They end up spending all our money on themselves while dictating the terms of societies direction…. They own science now. We may be right. But they own it… and they’re laughin’.
Makes you sick… and that makes them laugh even harder.

These guys think we’re too dumb to track what they’ve said or written previously. Also, you’re not supposed to know what Karoly wrote for a book review in Australia.
They have no accountability or sense of integrity. They’ll say one thing to one audience and something completely different to another audience and you’re not supposed to think about it, just accept what they say at face value when they say it.

“REPLY: So is the claim, but unsupported by anything but “we did it first” from “the team”. Most likely a face saving ploy. – Anthony”
I meant it was a commentor called Jean S on his blog that first pointed it out not McIntyre.

Thanks I hoped you’d pick up this one. Though Steve McIntyre did qualify “lots of stuff about pigs and imperialists” lower down, to give Karoly the benefit of the doubt re current beliefs.
Anthony, I’d love to see an article on the Amazon page for Mann’s “Climate Wars” book. I think it needs WUWT support. Currently the reviews stand:
***** 106 reviews
**** 10
*** 1
** 4
* 33
The lopsidedness shows up strongest in the support of reviews. The three reviews visible are all five-star, having scored 74 “helpfuls” out of 79 total, 451 out of 545, and 27 out of 29.
Only 29! Yet the one-star reviews come up as 91 out of 229, 68 out of 188 (Brandon Shollenberger), 41 out of 119, 186 out of 577, etc. If about 400 of us give the one-star reviews enough support, we can overcome the front-line bias.
You don’t need to have bought this particular book at Amazon to qualify for voting – any Amazon book purchase will do.

Karoly a scientist?? Yeah sure, there have been/are/ other ‘scientists’ of kind and same, i.e. Lysenko, Mengele, Pol Pot, Marx/Engels, O. Palme [kind of], Ahrrhenius, Myrdal, Brundtland [kind of], E. Kjällén, Rummukainen, J. Rockström, P. Holmgren, S. Axelsson, L. Gustavsson, M. Mann, G. Schmidt, J. Hansen, M. Karlsson, Azar, doing/acting/pursuing their ‘agendas’ at all might & wills – sance; they’re all out of funding(s) – all of’em & thus they’ll just die/dimiss/no radar-echo ….
Common sense is not that common any more… Isn’t that just so 100% beautiful?
Brgds from Sweden
/TJ

Here’s the context of the “Serengeti strategy”, it’s paragraph three in Mann’s Prologue which starts:

On the morning of November 17, 2009, I awoke to learn that my private e-mail correspondence with fellow scientists had been hacked from a climate research center at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom and selectively posted on the Internet for all to see. Words and phrases had been cherry-picked from the thousands of e-mail messages, removed from their original context, and strung together in ways designed to malign me, my colleagues, and climate research itself. Sound bites intended to imply impropriety on our part were quickly disseminated over the Internet. Through a coordinated public relations campaign, groups affiliated with the fossil fuel industry and other climate change critics helped catapult these sound bites onto the pages of leading newspapers and onto television screens around the world. A cartoon video ridiculing me and falsely accusing me of “hiding the decline” in global temperagure was released on YouTube and advertised through a sponsored link that appeared with any Google search of my name. The video eventually even made its way onto the CBS Nightly News. Pundits dubbed the wider issue of the hacked e-mails “climategate”, and numerous investigations were launched. Though our work was subsequently vindicated time and again, the whole episode was a humiliating one – unlike anything I’d ever imagined happening. I had known that climate change critics were willing to do just about anything to try and discredit climate scientists like myself. But I was horrified by what they now had stooped to.
My thoughts turned to an event from a decade earlier. In August 1999, I attended a meeting in Arusha, Tanzania, as a lead author for an upcoming report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). From my hotel room, I could see one of the world’s great wonders, Mount Kilimanjaro, with its magnificent ice cap lying just degrees from the equator. The ice cap, by the end of the twentieth century, had already shrunk to just a third of the area it covered in 1936 when Ernest Hemingway wrote “The Snows of Kilimanjaro”, but it was majestic all the same.
After the meeting, I joined a daylong expedition to see one of the world’s greatest displays of nature: Serengeti National Park. Here, zebras, giraffes, elephants, water buffalo, hippos, wildebeests, baboons, warthogs, gazelles, and ostriches wander among some of the world’s most dangerous predators: lions, leopards, and cheetahs. Among the most striking and curious scenes I saw that day were groups of zebras standing back to back, forming a continuous wall of vertical stripes. “Why do they do this?” an IPCC colleague asked the tour guide. “To confuse the lions” he explained. Predators, in what I call the “Serengeti strategy”, look for the most vulnerable animals at the edge of a herd. But they have difficulty picking out an individual zebra to attack when it is seamlessly incorporated into the larger group, lost in this case in a continuous wall of stripes. Only later would I understand the profound lesson this scene from nature had to offer me and my fellow climate scientists in the years to come.

Offensive material highlighted in para 1. But I think Mann’s “Serengeti strategy” analogy works more or less, Mann was the Team’s vulnerable child who would lead them all to greener $$$$$$$$ pastures, so they circled him.

The message has gone out and Karoly has fallen back into line , and the ‘science ‘ is once again settled .

I hate this software! — ‘find someone more useful’!!

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Bill Tuttle says:
July 11, 2012 at 8:32 am
cba says:
July 11, 2012 at 4:59 am
wasn’t that the group that the unrepentant domestic terrorist david ayers was involved in? weren’t they the ones who blew up the madison wi university research building that killed some poor physics grad student back in the late 60s or early 70s?
The same.
Ayers produced the agitprop and left the bomb-making to people who *thought* they knew how to make bombs — which is the reason he’s one of only a very few Weathermen still alive…
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Didn’t ayers lose his girlfriend to an incompetent bomb making effort?
My knowledge of this stuff has faded somewhat. I was half a continent away but it just so happens that the newest physics professor was a new phd from WI who happened to be a good friend of the grad student that was murdered by these terrorist thugs.
“J.Hansford says:
July 11, 2012 at 10:30 am
The Weather Underground’s operatives were responsible for robbing an armoured van and killing and wounding the guards….. Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers where also Weather Underground members, they also happen to be linked to Barack Obama in Chicago….. Socialism. Keeps trying to modernize the same bad idea… They call themselves “Progressives” now.
Progressive Socialism…. There’s an oxymoron if there ever was one. But you gotta hand it to them…. They end up spending all our money on themselves while dictating the terms of societies direction…. They own science now. We may be right. But they own it… and they’re laughin’.
Makes you sick… and that makes them laugh even harder.
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It’s amazing how ayn rand understood these guys and described their modus operandi in her novel the fountainhead. About the only way to describe them is as statists. they’re simply part of the problem that consists of a larger whole who have called themselves progressives throughout the 20th century. These include the socialists – both internalists (communists) and nationalists (nazis), the eugenics crowd from the early 1900s, the usual rot of malthusians and perhaps a bit more.
As for them calling themselves progressives, it sounds much better than admitting they are regressives seeking a feudalistic good old days that never existed and evidently are so full of themselves and their religious faith (godless) that they seem to border on mental retardation in some ways.