We love you too Mikey. At least we know he reads WUWT. Get a load of this response to the above:
Tom Nelson has a collection of points about Dr. Mann’s work worth repeating here on the DKE context.
Dunning–Kruger effect – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
- Priceless ClimateGate email 682: Tom Wigley tells Michael Mann that his son did a tree ring science fair project (using trees behind NCAR) that invalidated the centerpiece of Mann’s work
- ClimateGate scientists on Michael Mann and his work: “probable flaws” and “clearly deficient”, and “crap” and “way too defensive”, oh my!
- 2002 Briffa email mentions Mann’s “diminishing support” and the “questionable nature of much of Mann’s verbiage”; says “Mike could be a lot more open about the real uncertainty of his early temperature estimates”
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A few points of my own:
1. Dr. Mann initially agreed to, then stormed out of a TV interview at the OC Water Summit when he found out the local TV station was interviewing Mr. Sowell because of the question he asked.
2. Dr. Mann blocks me on Twitter (and many other people who might ask him inconvenient questions), so I can’t respond.
3. Unlike Dr. Mann, WUWT does allow guest posts from people with alternate viewpoints.
4. I’ll be happy to publicly debate Dr. Mann anytime. If I’m as stupid as he suggests, it should be cakewalk for him.
“At least we know he reads WUWT’
Depending on his level of reading comprehension.
It appears he’s unable to ‘read’ tree rings. 🙂
Ha ha. I find it very ironic that Mann doesn’t seem to realize what it really means. Boy, talk about really ignorant of being ignorant of being ignorant.
Do not worry Anthony, he first needs to Mann up and then he MIGHT be able to mannhandle you. But i doubt it, because he is not Mann enough!
This is little more then extreme spin generally called “the big lie”. All it does is illustrate this is about politics and power and has nothing to do with objective reality.
People, it should be time we define the: Mann Syndrome
Maybe it can make it to Wikipedia?
Any suggestions?
Arguing with a fool only requires that you lower yourself to their level…………seriously, don’t bite, it’s a pointless waste of your valuable time!
Dr Mann is scientific proof that BRAIN death is not Fatal .Climate Change is Natural and CO2 is Life
Obama’s more likely to debate you than Mann.
“If Michael Mann did not exist, the skeptics would have to invent him.”
-Roger Pielke Jr.
Mann will never debate the deniers or appear with them (a la Sowell), because the old wisdom of you don’t punch down, and don’t argue with an idiot.
And why should he? His side has all the money, his gang controls the Federal research grants, controls the peer-review process, and controls the publications. Politicians and the Academy give him money, and they don’t give it to you. You and your gang, and McIntire and his gang, are ankle-biting nobodies.
You’re only at stage two. First they lgnore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I think many of you are wrong about MM. I think he knows very well what he is doing. And I think it is not honest.
I can’t seem to get the follow button to work. I wonder if it’s something I said ; @PROTONICE
None of this will affect Mann in the slighest. The only thing that may is the current legal action. and of course the continuing flatlining temperatures despite a resurgent la Nina (see 600mb AMSU satellite temps
Watts up with that…..just keep up the good fight and keep telling the truth.
I believe almost everyone reading this post (including Dr Mann) knows exactly which paper Roger was asking about. Dr. Mann took the opportunity to ridicule a questioner of his science and avoided answering.
Don’t believe I’ve ever been called “ilk”before.
Cris says:
June 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Is “ilk” an upgrade from “bunch”?
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Yeah, I think I like being an ilk rather than a denier. ( but bunch is ok too.)
I’m certain Michael Mann will have a lasting legacy. Thirty years from now, scientist will look down their noses in derision at students who turn in unsatisfactory and incomplete work and tell them not to show up with “mannish excretions like that ever again” if they wish to obtain a degree.
JC says:
June 27, 2012 at 4:00 pm
If your surname isn’t “Watts” you likely aren’t the ilkan he was talking about. I wouldn’t sweat it, Michael Mann uses English the same way he uses science: poorly.
Whadda ya know – we are ‘ilk’. Really professional, Mikey.
Twitter-Mann exposed his own illusion of superiority by not answering in “fair debate” any questions about “Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance” by McIntyre and McKitrick, published in Geophysical Research Letters and “The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere Climate index: Update and Implications” by the same authors published in Energy and Environment.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005/2004GL021750.shtml
http://www.multi-science.co.uk/mcintyre-mckitrick.pdf.
The Peter Principle…………….
On January 17 2012 Mann was keynote speaker at Enviroday 2012 for the Environmental Sciences Student Research Symposium at the University of Virginia.
https://sites.google.com/site/enviroday2012/
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPWff2L25E0&feature=plcp
Per, Sun Tzu:
“It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.”
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That being said, I don’t “get” twitter.
I’m happy to be called ilk
Definition is “Family, class or kind.”
DaveE.
The tweets do appear juvenile. He seems to have rockstar-itis, or at least sees himself as a public figure worthy of marquee attention. My advice to him would be to end the tit for tat tweets and just stick to the tomes of his hypothesis in the rarefied world of scientific journals, doing replicable research and staying above the fray. If his research is valid and reliable, it will stand up to the rigors of scientific research that attempts to refute it. He should welcome such endeavors. That he apparently does not welcome such attempts, speaks loudly.
I would want to question the accreditation of the institution that gave mikey his piled higher and deeper. He missed his calling. He should have gone directly into fiction writing.
I just saw the added twit feed.
I kinda like being an “ilk”.