Wow, just wow. “He said:
“We are going to get climate chaos. Are we going to have geological havoc added to it? Climate change is already driving more earthquakes and giant landslides in some parts of the world.”
Full story at :
What can you say when somebody goes off the rails like this?
h/t to Barry Woods
Some years ago I respected this man, but no longer.
Everything changed when I saw him in a youtube video a couple of years ago. In it he suggested that climate sceptics were the equivalent of holocaust deniers.
This man is beneath contempt.
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He states that earthquakes and landslides have increased due to climate change (what happened to ‘global warming’?)
Can anyone point to data for the incidence of earthquakes in general and for Alaska in particular?
Does the data show any trends that could be linked to climate change? Or is it just doom-mongering about terrible things that are always in the future?
Chris
Everything associated with CAGW was started and promoted in the UK, they even sent a sleeper to Australia.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/23/australian-pm-kevin-rudd-coup
I was in discussion with someone in NZ about 10 years ago who claimed an earth quake swarm in Wellington *was* a direct result of AGW driven climate change. Deranged is a word I would not use to describe this insanity.
What next, global warming causes more alien abductions?
Hay festival or hemp festival?
If the causality of Bill McGuire’s physical description is realistic then as we’ve come out of an ice age with all that grief then we’d better not go back into one else when we come out of that one all the little kittens and puppies will be killed in the earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic firestorms all over again.
So better to keep heaping out CO2 if he’s right to keep the temperature up else a thousand or more generations from now we will be cursing us and our stupid carbon emissions capping.
“What can you say when somebody goes off the rails like this?”
You can say:
In the case of the Telegraph, this would only work for UK readers, of course, but if enough people did it then perhaps these “churnalists” and “repeaters” would eventually get the message.
jorgekafkazar says:
June 5, 2012 at 10:24 pm
“AGW alarmism is so potentially destructive, I often think our civilization will fall like Ancient Rome, where the water system was made of lead, resulting in insane emperors and infertile citizens. ”
That would have been the least of their worries, as they also used lead as sweetener; and many after them as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead(II)_acetate
Richard Nelson says:
“When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do. ”
Puhleeeeze!! – Take an intro to Geology class you moron.
kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
June 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm
From Richard Nelson on June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm:
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do.
My ice cracks when I pour Jack Daniels on it. I pour Jack on a glass with no ice and the glass does not crack. I pour Jack down my throat and I crack a smile. So I think your wrong.
He should be cared for in the community.
http://geophysics.geoscienceworld.org/content/63/5/1585.short
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v339/n6225/abs/339532a0.html
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1998Natur.391..141S
Rubbish! In science it is up to those who make claims to provide the evidence. Where is his peer reviewed evidence? Is there an increase in the frequency of Earthquakes and did AGW cause it? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE????
To the tune of:
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down, slidin’ down.
I feel solids start to cracklin’
When CO2 abounds.
Volcanoes will increase in pace!
Tsunamis will cause dismay!
By, taxin’, I can stop it
When you send more control my way.
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down, slidin’ down.
I feel solids start to cracklin’
When CO2 abounds.
It’s alarmin’, when you hear me
And on coal plants I place the blame.
Coal plant emissions
Are something I just must tame.
I’ve just got to tame ‘em today.
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down, slidin’ down.
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down.
Climate’s losin’ control
Down to our very soil.
It gets hot and cold all over,
All over, all over, all over, all over.
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down, slidin’ down,
I feel the earth move under my feet.
I feel the land slidin’ down, slidin’ down,
Slidin’ down, slidin’ down slidin’ down, slidin’ down…
Richard Nelson says:
June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do.
Too funny, up until a couple of years ago there was a “consensus” that glass was an extremely slow moving liquid, on second look, it appears the consensus was WRONG, but it shows just how little use a scientific consensus is when the original hypothesis is wrong. Perhaps you should take the advice of a few of the people above and go back to school.. you are definitely missing something..
Bill Mguire lives in the Peak District and keeps 3 cats as Pets, must be a Nutter!
I emailed Bill McG about his claims and got the following response.
Email response from Bill
Could I suggest that you and your ‘extremely intelligent and science-trained’ readers actually read the book? Then you will find that these are not my claims. The book is based upon hard, evidence-based science, and presents results and observations already published in more than 100 peer-reviewed papers in the most eminent science journals.
You – and they – may also be interested to know that the issue is addressed for the first time in the recent IPCC report on extreme events, which can be accessed at: http://ipcc-wg2.gov/SREX/
Ridicule away!!!!
Email From Me
On 06/06/2012 19:09, james Allison wrote:
Hi Bill
You don’t know me however I should point out to you that a recent press article quoting some extraordinarily claims you made has been featured on a science blog called Watts Up With That. Of significance is that this bog has won all sorts of awards and is considered the most read climate science blog world wide to the tune of around 117,000,000 views. Of particular significantly most readers are extremely intelligent and science trained.
I’m wondering whether you would care to visit the site – link below – in order to respond to the obvious ridicule taking place against you. .
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/05/climate-craziness-of-the-week-uk-government-adviser-bill-mcguire-says-global-warming-is-causing-earthquakes-and-landslides/#more-65052
Cheers
James Allison
From pkatt on June 6, 2012 at 1:55 pm:
I remember when Steven Goddard was catching flak here on WUWT for thinking glass is a supercooled liquid, pointing to evidence like old window glass seemingly melted in place in their frames. How can there be ancient glass artifacts found that aren’t looking melted?
Then I read up on glass, and found out that simple glass made with silica and sodium carbonate (plain soda glass) is water soluble, so lime, magnesium oxide, and aluminum oxide are added for stability.
That “melted” window glass, could just be crappy plain glass that repeatedly got wet, softened and moved, and dried out again. Presumably high humidity would also have an effect.
So it really could be true, with a certain composition in the right conditions, that glass really will appear to be an extremely slow moving liquid.
kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
“So it really could be true, with a certain composition in the right conditions, that glass really will appear to be an extremely slow moving liquid.”
Glass, like Fluff marshmallow, is an amorphous solid and not a liquid – appearance and rate of movement notwithstanding.
“So it really could be true, with a certain composition in the right conditions, that glass really will appear to be an extremely slow moving liquid.”
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I guess glass isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. 😎
The hypothetical CO2 induced global warming causes the entire planet to expand and fracture the tectonic plates now? Not just a silly little degree or two heating of the atmosphere?
WOW! Just…. WOW!
Err, regular readers of Geoffrey Lean at the DT will know that only the most idiotic assertions are stupid enough to be included in his articles.
In the old days there were still stupid people in the villages. The difference is the stupid fools got the boot with swift action and today they are ever more emboldened by the lack of action taken against them. Welcome to the politically correct union world that tolerates farce in your face
Strange, all those aggressive reactions. I only asked: “You could give some arguments, why you think it is impossible that global warming may cause earthquakes and landslides.”
Claiming that that means that I agree with the statement that global warming may cause earthquakes and landslides is utter stupidity.
Jimbo answered without answering: “In science it is up to those who make claims to provide the evidence.”
Which is true, thus I guess this blog is not science. Or is there an exception for claims of craziness or claims made by Anthony?
The aggressive answers sound like George W. Bush, either you are with us or you are against us, either you believe in Anthony without thinking or you are the enemy.
Thanks for the other nice comments that did give some arguments. That was very helpful.