Wow, just wow. “He said:
“We are going to get climate chaos. Are we going to have geological havoc added to it? Climate change is already driving more earthquakes and giant landslides in some parts of the world.”
Full story at :
What can you say when somebody goes off the rails like this?
h/t to Barry Woods
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So, Danny Glover found meaningful employment?
Richard Nelson: Since you insist on playing troll here at WUWT, let me repeat the reply I gave you on the thread of today’s post here that I authored. I’ll change the date and time for this one.
There are a multitude of grammatical and typing errors in your June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm comment. The odd thing? You’re attempting to promote your freelance science writing business with the freelancesciencewriting.com link attached to your name. I don’t think you’re going to find many takers with your poor grammar and typing skills.
Adios
Victor Venema says:
June 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Unfortunately, now I only have the arguments from the Telegraph in favour of this possibility. To be able to form a better opinion some arguments against would be very much welcome.
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Will Rogers said: ““All I know is just what I read in the papers, and that’s an alibi for my ignorance.”
It seems that you are saying that the article in the Telegraph must be true (for you, at least) until proven otherwise, or aAre you making an argument for the null hypothesis?
Nevertheless, here’s a little exercise, which may prove enlightening for you:
McKibben said: “Climate change is already driving more earthquakes and giant landslides in some parts of the world…”
Where are those earthquakes and giant landslides
Ice sheets have been melting since the end of the last ice age, at least some of the time… witness the growth of the Antarctic ice mass.
Lastly,
“The problem ain’t what people know. It’s what people know that ain’t so that’s the problem.”
― Will Rogers
A look at the author’s picture says it all.
No doubt he is also waiting for the day he get’s beamed up to the mother ship to meet with Elvis.
I am beginning to wonder if there is some kind of new recreational drug that these clowns have gotten connected with. Bath soaps? Mann’s hot sauce? Orange sunshine or purple microdot never caused this kind of behavior.
Victor Venema says:
June 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm
You could give some arguments, why you think it is impossible that global warming may cause earthquakes and landslides.
In case you hadn’t noticed, we currently are not at the end of an ice age, but in the middle of an interglacial. Furthermore, he claims that “Climate change is already driving more earthquakes and giant landslides in some parts of the world”, with zero evidence . That isn’t how science works. But, you don’t really care about that, do you?
Manfred says:
June 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Prof Lenardic at Rice University/College in Houston (Earth Science) …”
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While some would argue that all of our nation’s universities have been contaminated by an overabundance of leftist ideologues, Rice U. is decidedly and overwhelmingly in the lefty camp.
“Most recent earthquakes, he added, had been caused by conventional geological activity, without any contribution from climate change, but global warming was likely to make things worse in future.”
Has global warming ever been supposed to make things better and “in the future”? LOL
The Geoffrey Lean article mentioning McKibben has been mentioned above. Here is the intro and link. A few examples they Lean may have missed are included in the comments. 🙂
“‘Where are the books? The poems? The plays? The goddamn operas?” So asked Bill McKibben, author and environmental campaigner, venting frustration at the cultural failure to address climate change.
It was a fair question, and it spawned a movement. Shouldn’t the arts be getting to grips not just with global warming but with the whole multi-headed global environmental crisis, at a time when – if the scientists are even half right – civilisation faces its greatest ever challenge? The issue has come up at two cultural celebrations this week – the Telegraph Hay Festival and the Salisbury International Arts Festival, whose media partner is also this newspaper.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/9305638/A-cold-climate-in-the-arts-world.html
My sisters former home in Mission B.C. was condemned due to a landslide caused by too much rain. The neighboring houses were destroyed by the landslide. Fortunately for my sister, she had sold the home a short while before this event. Our B.C. government used to tell us that our climate change would mean less rain, as that would be the worst case scenario here. Recent years weather has not been cooperating with the government. To be fair, the current leadership seems to have gotten the message of skepticism, as well as from polling data, and is pursuing resource development.
In the tiny constraints of McGuire’s brain CAGW also causes, in addition to earthquakes and landslides,banana & petrol price increases, polar bear massacres, species annihilation, dwarfism, coral reef losses, floods, tornadoes, wind events, solar eclipses, transits of Venus and all known physical events on Earth. Enough, already, Enough! .
Richard Nelson says:
June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do. You need to check your facts before you start lying to the public, unless your considering presenting real SOLUTIONS to climate change. Not to mention, I am positive the original creator is not giving you permission to use their work as you have here. Mr Anthony your not part of a game but a real industry of professionals that will sue you for doing this.
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REPLY: Actually, its called “fair use”, which applies in the case of critical commentary… look it up. As for your other assertion of “When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do.” I’m assuming this is satire, and you simply forgot the /sarc tag, because it is too stupid a claim to be anything else. If that were true of “all solids”, concrete and steel would crack in the mid-day sun 😉 – Anthony
[Not to mention taffy and bubble gum.☺ ~dbs, mod.]
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… and whilst you are about it, Richard Nelson, please learn the difference between “your” and “you are” or “you’re”. More the reason why wagging school in your case is not a good idea.
“I think what we’re seeing now is a doubling down – a desperation. I think it’s recognized by now that many, many professional societies, which have nothing to do with climate, have committed themselves to the issue. Many scientists have committed themselves to the issue publicly, while trying to do science that actually counters it.
“If at this point the issue collapses, the consequences for science – at least institutional science – will be dramatic. And, so, [they’re] caught – so to speak – between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. On the one hand [they] know that this is disastrous for the science…[while] on the other hand [they] know it’s disastrous for [them], if it doesn’t continue [i.e., asserting catastrophic AGW].” – Richard Lindzen at the Book Forum for “Climate Coup: Global Warming’s Invasion of Our Government and Our Lives” (May 4, 2011)
Naming climate change (or its less sexier cousin – catastrophic AGW) as the driver behind today’s (more frequent) earthquakes and landslides (in some parts of the world) is desperation – period.
I should point out that the landslide I mentioned in my previous comment was also due to building a house where one should not have been built. Above a steep raven with a creek below. The work my sisters husband did on the slope probably saved it from collapsing while the neighboring homes had no such work.
garymount says:
June 5, 2012 at 5:31 pm
> Above a steep raven with a creek below.
Quoth the raven, “Nevermore.”
There is too much speculation and too many different future disasters that scientists are blaming on manmade global warming to not have a common source and motivation for the claims.
Richard Nelson says:
June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do………..
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CAUTION!!!
Meltdown in progress.
Richard Nelson says:
June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do…..
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The quality of the TROLLs is really getting quite low.
Can’t you Oil Companies find us a decent troll who at least has some background in science? Is the quarterly financial report so bad you can’t afford to pay for “A” rated trolls anymore? Good grief, this guy doesn’t even know that when ice heats up it MELTS! He is no fun! no challenge!
Richard here is a real simple experiment for you. Take an ice cube and flip it onto a red hot burner on an electric stove and see what it does.
Richard Nelson says:
June 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
When ice heats it cracks like glass. All solids do.
This is not true. It depends on particular solid, the temperature differential and speed of heating. The temperature changes due to climate change is much less than changes between night and day. According to your logic, we should have horrible earthquakes every time snow melts at the end of the winter.
You need to check your facts before you start lying to the public, unless your considering presenting real SOLUTIONS to climate change.
I am confused by your statement. Are you implying that it’s OK to lie to public if you present solution to climate change or is it just a freudian slip?
And you actually make a living by doing science writing? Considering quality of your supposedly scientific writing on this blog, I feel sorry for poor suckers you manage to convince to hire you.
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Sitings of UFO’s is a proof of Global Warming 🙂
You can say something along the lines of:
“Have you ever had a thought?” or “What are you smoking” or …. the game is without end because, claearly, the stupidity is without end.
Found this comment over at Steve Goddard’s:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/bill-mcguire-takes-climate-fraud-to-a-new-level/#comment-93137
Makes sense.
Disko Troop says: @ur momisugly June 5, 2012 at 2:51 pm
…. Problem is that getting the nutters off the gravy train is going to need a lot more than a whistle and a red flag.
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Don’t worry, some of our American cowboys are already practicing…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T73PxWSn6a0
“We are going to have geological havoc”.
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This is a sign that no one is listening anymore.