…and retweets from his phone:
Twitter / caerbannog666: CRU now uses NMS homogeniz
[Retweeted by Michael Mann] CRU now uses NMS homogenized data. Want NMS raw data? Ask NMS’s for it. WUWT’ers too dumb to figure that out.
Twitter / MichaelEMann: @edbegleyjr @B4Blast @Piac
@edbegleyjr @B4Blast @Piacats Right back at you Ed 🙂 Here’s the other photo. After a few drinks I think… pic.twitter.com/05N6lbmp
(Don’t blame me, if Dr. Mann wants to post publicly viewable pictures on his Twitter feed showing himself “after a few drinks” while simultaneously suggesting other people are dumb, who am I to argue?)
h/t to Tom Nelson
For the record, we know they use homogenized data at CRU, its the raw data we want. But Jones doesn’t want to share (more on this at Lucia’s here)Maybe if we get a few drinks in him?
LazyTeenager;
Some people are easily suckered by this tactic. I’m not.>>>>
The notion that only Mann can understand his emails clearly has you suckered, or you don’t believe him anymore than I do and are just trying to make excuses. You need not explain email communication to this audience by the way, I am certain that the vast majority of us communicate via email each and every day, and hence are NOT suckered by Mann’s feeble and clearly desperate attempt to keep what he said in private about climate in general, and his own work in particular, a secret.
Julian Williams in Wales says:
June 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Don’t know what NMS stands for.
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I believe it is National Meteorology Service.
JEM says:
June 2, 2012 at 9:20 pm
“Glenn – did you use the term ‘responsible, experienced scientist’ in reference to…uh…Mann?”
No, I used silly and incorrect in regard to Mann.
Is that Gleick in the LH corner talking to his beer ?
Begley and Mann
Per the video above, Begley said to Varney that only ‘climate scientists’ are qualified to talk about the science of climate. Here he is with Dr. Mann, who never studied climatology, only physics and geophysics. According to Begley, Mann isn’t qualified to weigh in on climate science either.
I dont think these personalised posting’s abut Mann at a bar etc will help WUWT. Its a bit like the HI billboard thing and maybe Moncktons Birth certificate story. Its a huge distraction. Suggest sticking to AGW
Fergal – why do you knock on the fact that Mann is ‘chubby’? Most Americans are chubby. If anything, you should point out that the other guy isn’t.
Mann could cut his food supplies carbon footprint in half though by, well, eating only half….
Bears repeating because it was so well stated!
Political Scientist: ‘We’re facing the biggest danger to humanity in all of history, more than Bubonic Plague, more than Spanish Flu, more than cat-5 hurricanes and tornadoes, more than 6 mile long Asteroids! Now either take our word for it and spend trillions of dollars or go and piece together the data from all the sources because we’re simply too darn busy to roll up everything into a single zip file. But rest assured, we feel your questions are important, and we firmly believe that reproducing our results is vital to the Scientific Method. Don’t worry you’ll have no problem finding every bit of data and you will make no processing errors, trust us, we’re from the government, we’re here to help.’
Mosher hit and run again didn’t he. Maybe he’s compiling everything into a unified package. He’s here to help too. (I think)
What a daft rationalization: the Scientific aristocracy are essentially talking in code, their educated prose and nuance lost upon the eyes and ears of the Proletariat.
What really worries your side (the side that advances the position that taxpayer owned communication must be kept away from taxpayer scrutiny) is that you probably suspect just as I that all these leftist Scientists who are dumb enough to be sucked in to the climate hoax were also dumb enough to put incriminating things in writing, including lying for their noble cause, and worse.
Sunshine always has been considered the best disinfectant. Just look around and note who is passing out all the sunblock.
Anthony,
If you’re referring to your comment here, I responded some time ago, and I see you have now acknowledged the response. But again it comes down to, if you want me to apologize for something I’ve said, please say what it is. Quoting it would help.
For those who are challenged by the use of apostrophes, there is a video that helps, here;
http://www.morecambebaymoviemakers.org.uk/Video.html
Looks like he is holding water. Has to hit the abs harder and remember that booze cuts down growth hormone production. Other than that, 9-12 months, as long as he gets into the 2 a days and goes high protein/fat and a carb backload, I think he will look the climate warrior part and inspire a new super hero movie.
That is the true goal, isnt it, a CLimate warrior movie? Alec Baldwin chomping at the bit to play the lead
DR says: June 2, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I’m interested in knowing why Steve Mosher doesn’t question GISS adjustments such as what Steve Goddard notes here: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/lukewarm-this/
Another post for you to republish Anthony? Hansen’s adjustments were massive and on being called-out by Icelandic Met Office, he reduced the adjustments… a bit.
A Mann walks into a bar
And says “Ouch”
I am no fan at all of Dr.Mann’s rudeness, politics or the way he does his science…but I can see absolutely nothing to ridicule in him going out and having a few drinks with his like-minded friends.
Some people here are in danger of losing a sense of proportion. I appreciate it was put out on social media..but….really?
WUWT and it’s readers are better than this. It is not right.
The Internet just ate a longer post of mine…..but to summarise:
No No NO NO NO.
This post is unworthy of WUWT. I do not mind a bit of fun but this is not right.
Caleb says: June 2, 2012 at 6:37 pm
hahahaha
davidmhoffer says: June 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm ,/i>
Keep on David. I have a lot of respect for Steve Mosher, he’s not a troll and he’s said a lot of important things eg re IPCC coverups / suppressions. He handled the 10G pressure of Climategate before the rest of us knew, and he handled that well, full credit and respect.
But when it comes to the science itself, I have less respect for Steve. I’ve seen you rudely unperceptive, Steve, and you don’t seem to have a handle on the subtle corruptions of UHI and Jones’ still-unresolved complicity in Wang’s [self-snip] paper etc that puts UHI far too low and thus allows the homogenized data to appear acceptable when IMHO it is not.
There is often visible to me, quite a divide between those who are fighting corruption, to reclaim integrity in the science; and those who can see that even the basics of Climate Science, with integrity of behaviour restored, are still shonky. We need both. But very often, those who are fighting to reclaim integrity, are somewhat blind to the places, and the often “transcendentally ranting” manner, in which the real frontiers of science are being explored. I don’t like transcendental rants when I see them from others – but I recognize that it can be part of the frisson that inevitably goes together with the intuitive work and abilities of real discoveries, even in the depths of hard science and engineering. All the originators of Quantum Theory knew this. And all the great scientists I have studied closely, Newton being a prime example.
To me, Moshpit clearly illustrates this divide. You are a firstrate upholder of integrity of behaviour in Science, Steve, but the spirit of pure Science does not run in your blood – whereas it does run in mine, despite (or helped by??) my lack of “higher” formal scientific training. Nullius In Verba. IMHO.
aagh, normal PC kaput, no CA assistant working, tag failed to close.
Andrew says – June 3, 2012 at 12:08 am:
Ah. I have it now: Apostrophic Global Warming!
Charles Gerard Nelson says:
June 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@ur momisugly graphite
In this context Mann intends NMS to mean “National Meteorological Services” (plural)…therefore
” want NMS’s raw data?” is perfectly correct. I fear the number of people in your country who understand the proper use of the possesive apostrophe has just plummeted to 174!
Moral: Don’t post when you’re drunk or angry…(a crime, by the way, of which I am not entirely innocent myself!)
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Chas old chum.
Sorry to disappoint you but I am neither drunk nor angry.
Good to see that you can read Mann’s mind. If I could do that, I wouldn’t be bothering about his use of apostrophes.
My initial post was merely prompted by this being a ‘humour’ thread and seeing someone being certain about a point on which I believed them to be incorrect. I stand by my comment.
The first. Here’s your permanent infallible guide:
He’s, she’s, it’s;
His, hers, its.
You’re welcome!
FergalR says:
June 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm
“Is that “peer-reviewed” Ed Begley hugging the chubby logic-chopper?”
Oi. Ed Begley throws James Hansen and Michael Mann under the bus. (Their degrees are not in climate science.)
LazyTeenager says:
June 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm
The real issue here is that given a series of abbreviate email messages it makes it real easy for mischief makers to surround the emails with their own malicious interpretations. Some people are easily suckered by this tactic. I’m not.
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Nick, did you get that?
“Chuck L says:
June 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm
What an arrogant twit he is! Ed Begley Jr – not the sharpest knife in the drawer, either.”
While I agree, I do respect him. Of all that preach, he is the one of the few practices.
Attention Real Climatologists – Thanks to WUWT, the era of obfuscating, blustering, blathering, patronizing, arrogant con artists masquerading as scientists is officially over. If you want to be taken seriously, you must act like real scientists.
New Rule: your data must be freely and easily accessible on the web for reproducibility, or your work immediately goes into the circular file; no exceptions.