…and retweets from his phone:
Twitter / caerbannog666: CRU now uses NMS homogeniz
[Retweeted by Michael Mann] CRU now uses NMS homogenized data. Want NMS raw data? Ask NMS’s for it. WUWT’ers too dumb to figure that out.
Twitter / MichaelEMann: @edbegleyjr @B4Blast @Piac
@edbegleyjr @B4Blast @Piacats Right back at you Ed 🙂 Here’s the other photo. After a few drinks I think… pic.twitter.com/05N6lbmp
(Don’t blame me, if Dr. Mann wants to post publicly viewable pictures on his Twitter feed showing himself “after a few drinks” while simultaneously suggesting other people are dumb, who am I to argue?)
h/t to Tom Nelson
For the record, we know they use homogenized data at CRU, its the raw data we want. But Jones doesn’t want to share (more on this at Lucia’s here)Maybe if we get a few drinks in him?
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There is a problem with some of the assumptions here that Mann reads this silly blog. He retweeted something from caerbanog666 (hope remembered the proper spelling on that). caerbanog666 does read this blog. And caerbanog666 is correct in his assesment.
At least Ed strives to live a “green” life. He lives in a modest home, only has one suit, one shirt, etc.
Ed doesn’t even wear a belt. Of course Mann does, otherwise his pants would fall down and we would see his green polka dot boxers. /sarc
Mann’s tweeting whilst tanked is evidence of my “Wildebeest Principle” in action … here, the alcohol has temporarily killed off the weak brain cells therefore leaving only the smart cells to function. Heaven help the world if this is what represents the ‘climate science consensus’.
Nick,
If the climate science was a serious endeavor to save the world from burning up, climate scientists would be bending over backwards to engage their critics in debate. What do they have to fear, if they have done an honest and professional job of analysis? Jones should have invited McIntyre to come over and have a look behind the curtain. He could do it now.
If climate scientists seriously believe that denier misinformation is the problem, they should be confronting it at every opportunity. The fifty invited consensus cowards who did not show up to address the Heartland Inst. conference missed an opportunity to confront criticism and communicate. What are they afraid of? Snipers?
Why doesn’t the climate science community have a conference and invite skeptics to participate? How are they going to lay misinformation to rest, unless they confront the alleged perpetrators and defeat them in debate?
If they think the public is going to just trust them again after Climategate, they are delusional.
Mark T
Never appropriate if you live in a glass house (green house).
Rattus reads a silly blog. Silly rodent.
Yes, the comments on this post are very entertaining. Thanks to all.
Don Monfort says:
June 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm
….If they think the public is going to just trust them again after Climategate, they are delusional.
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With Al Gore as their frontman, I didn’t trust them before Climategate.
Rattus keeps digging his own holes, but that’s what rats do, isn’t it?
Reminds me of that great moment in science when Johannes Kepler asked Tycho Brahe for his raw data, and Brahe told him to look up.
Like many who read this blog, I could give a rat’s ass if any particular person has or has not had a few drinks and like many here, I’ve been known to have a few late in the evening. Who TF cares? BUT, I would never share a pic of me myself buzzed.
It’s a profession kind of thing, and Mann is old enough to know better.
We are all invited to draw our own conclusions from this event, and it doesn’t make ME more confident in regards to the basic personal rational judgment possessed by Mann.
And we should add to the wreckage of the world’s economy by developing policy based on this person’s opinion?
Uhmm….. drinkers ….such as myself, disavow lunatics like the people above, but….. come on! If someone took a picture of me today, when I wasn’t strumming, I would have looked as lit as Mann and Bagboy.
As to Mann’s lunacy….. what can you say? The dolt believes you can divine temps from tree rings…… how stupid is that?
There’s some guy called “Ratty Norvigus” (hope I remember the proper spelling on that). Ratty posts silly comments on the wuwt blog, so I guess he(it?) is a wuwt’er. Must be one of the stupid ones. I guess
Manncaerbang666 was partially correct in his assessment.It is comforting to see Michael Mann becoming more and more rude, loud and arrogant. It is obvious that continual pressure from presentations of the truth at WUWT are getting to him. This behaviour is usual when people know that they are in the wrong and have no evidence to refute the attacks.;
Tom T writes above – “One of the most illegitimate arguments I can think of is what one’s opponent’s use of English is”.
1. You cannot be degrees of illegitimate, like “most”. You are or you are not.
2.”I can think of” is better as “of which I can think”.
3. In 2,. “think of” is better as “demonstrate”. Thinking is within you; to communicate you need to express.
4. “one’s opponent’…” is WRONG. Try “ones opponent’s….”. “One’s” means “one is”.
5. A better complete revision would be “The ability of an opponent to use English is relatively unimportant.”
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Unfortunately (though I’m hopeless with typos, always had secretaries to do that), I think that correct English use is very important.
“Insulin” and “Inulin” are two very different chemical compunds. All word symbols have a purpose.
I believe the good Dr is evaluating the relative rate of ice melt in various whiskies as a proxy for atmospheric temperature.
Of course, in line with typical Mannian statistics, he’s evaluating them all at one site while using the latitudes of the distilleries in his calculations…
Rattus Norvegicus says:
June 2, 2012 at 7:38 pm
“There is a problem with some of the assumptions here that Mann reads this silly blog. He retweeted something from caerbanog666 (hope remembered the proper spelling on that). caerbanog666 does read this blog. And caerbanog666 is correct in his assesment.”
“Retweeting” as you put it is worse than him reading the blog and making his own assessment.
Who would think a responsible, experienced scientist would do such a thing, let alone lump everyone that contributes to WUWT as being “too dumb”. You’re as silly as he is, and neither of you is “correct”.
Glenn – did you use the term ‘responsible, experienced scientist’ in reference to…uh…Mann?
Really?
I enjoyed the quote about Kepler and Brahe. Look at what Kepler achieved when he finally got access to all of Brahe’s data. Who knows what real science there is to discover in the full, unmolested, data set?
Ed,
I just counted the rings in the formica on the post behind you and I swear I’m hot.
Mike
davidmhoffer says
When you are done answering those questions Dr Mann, could you also explain your argument that only you can understand your emails?
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Explaining the things to David again.
Emails are a tricky form of communication because it’s very easy to zip some comments off and then realize you sent a message that does not capture your intentions. Partly that’s because things like body language cues and tone of voice are missing.
The other tricky thing is that emails are often between friends or colleagues who know you personally and can tell that you are joking or using irony or playing along with an in joke. There are other bits of contextual information that will not appear in an email and so the very abbreviated form of words in an email, if taken in isolation, will paint a misleading opinion.
Personally I am aware of these issues and pay a lot of attention to the sense conveyed in my emails to ensure the message is accurate. Even then I am often not successful.
The real issue here is that given a series of abbreviate email messages it makes it real easy for mischief makers to surround the emails with their own malicious interpretations. Some people are easily suckered by this tactic. I’m not.
Don’t know what NMS stands for.
But the way I read this is as if it were a note from one conspirator to another. “We know where
the skeletons are buried, but our opponents are too stupid to work it out, ha ha.”
Am I alone in seeing it in these terms?
just some guy says:
June 2, 2012 at 7:02 pm
“… What made you decide to hide the decline in 20th century ree ring proxy temperatures? desire for fame? peer pressure? blind faith ? which is it?
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Probably too dumb to figure it out.
In the photo with Ed Begley, who is the Michael mann clone at the extreme left – propping up the bar? Gavin Schmidt???