It seems Dr. Michael Mann has been invited to speak at a water conference. I’m wondering if his buddy, Dr. Peter Gleick was invited or not.
The program is interesting, because they ask this question:
BALDERDASH or RISK?
Climate Change: Is it real or BALDERDASH?
But that isn’t the most interesting part, how Dr. Mann is described is.
Given the way he is described in the program, you’d think he and Al Gore and all the members of the IPCC that shared the Nobel Prize didn’t exist at all.
From http://www.ocwatersummit.com/Documents/2012/Program2012.pdf
We’ve been through this before. Via Junkscience:
Mann still not a Nobel winner — not even at UNC-Asheville
From :
http://junkscience.com/2012/03/22/ipcc-manns-claim-of-receiving-nobel-prize-is-wrong/
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Here’s an exchange between the IPCC and CCNY professor Themis Lazardidis as reported in the Greek University Reform Forum.
Lazardidis writes (screenshot) to Francesca Foppiano of the IPCC Secretariat:
Dear Ms. Foppiano,
Thank you for your response. I was referring to news reports in greek media, e.g.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_ell_0_22/05/2008_96874
“Christos Zerefos, president of the National Observatory in Athens, and his colleague, Professor Alcibiades Bais of Thessaloniki University, are the first two Greeks to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, even if they share it with dozens of other scientists. Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was jointly awarded the 2007 Nobel with Al Gore, decided that the IPPC’s prize should be shared with 45 distinguished scientists who had contributed more than anyone else to the work of the panel.”
Are you saying that the above is false?
Thank you,
Themis Lazaridis
Foppiano responds:
Dear Mr Lazaridis,
Again, let me clarify that the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. and to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – the organization. Consequently, the following information is not correct: “Christos Zerefos, president of the National Observatory in Athens, and his colleague, Professor Alcibiades Bais of Thessaloniki University, are the first two Greeks to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, even if they share it with dozens of other scientists.”
The sentence should read “Christos Zerefos, president of the National Observatory in Athens, and his colleague, Professor Alcibiades Bais of Thessaloniki University, have received a certificate commemorating their involvement with the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize along with former Vice President Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr.”
About 2000 personalized copies of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize together with a letter of Dr R.K. Pachauri have been sent worldwide to Coordinating Lead Authors, Lead Authors, Review Editors, Bureau members, staff of Technical Support Units and of the Secretariat, who have contributed substantially to the work of the IPCC of the last 20 years.
However, the above mentioned figure does not reflect all contributors to the IPCC process. We can estimate that approximately 10’000 scientist and officials have contributed to the work of the IPCC over the last two decades. The only figures we can share with you are related to the publication of the 4th Assessment Report:
2500+ Scientific Expert Reviewers
800+ Contributing Authors and 450+ Lead Authors
130+ Countries
6 years work
1 Report
Best regards,
Francesca Foppiano
IPCC Secretariat
www.ipcc.ch [Emphasis added]
But the inside jacket of Michael Mann’s new book “The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars”reads:
[Mann] jointly received the Nobel Peace Prize along with other scientists who participated in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change…
So Mann’s claim is false/wrong. He should only claim to have received a certificate of involvement (see below) in the IPCC.
Above: Dr. Mann’s actual certificate.
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The question today: will Dr. Mann come away from Disneyland thinking it is the “happiest place on Earth”? Stay tuned.
[snip – that’s Junkscience’s words – which I’ll remove – Anthony]
Those by proxy records have such huge error bars.
Shouldn’t that be ‘the Hippiest Place on Earth’ when this conference is in town?
Congratulations to Steve McIntyre (IPCC reviewer) and Michael Mann (science pervert and author of the widely replicated though discredited “Hockey Stick” graph) on the occasion of their receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.
Humility is so under-rated these days. I don’t usually quote from the King James Bible but this seems appropriate:
10,000+ winners? Talk about diluting the significance.
Didn’t Time Magazine give “The People” the Person of the Year Award a couple of years back? Why doesn’t Mann list that, too?
JoanieB- Times Person of the Year
If you robbed a bank, would you care about driving off without a licence?
If you’re 1M$ in debt, do you care about overspending another $1K?
Now I wonder if those individuals who keep alleging that Lord Monckton isn’t a member of the House of Lords will challenge Mann’s claim to being a Nobel Peace Prize winner. I’m not holding my breath.
Titles, Titles, Titles. CAGW propoonents question Monckton’s right to be called a Lord. We question Dr. Mann’s right to be called a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Titles are skin deep. Whether or not Monckton is a Lord, he is articulate and knowledgable about “Global Warming.” Whether or not Dr. Mann won the Nobel Peace Prize, he is the south end of a north bound horse.
When Obama gets a Nobel Peace Prize for doing… well… absolutely nothing, I’m more than willing to let Mann slide on this issue. The peace prize nowadays is akin to receiving the coveted “Participant” in school endeavors. If someone is impressed by it then they need to get their head examined.
Dr. Mann’s Nobel Prize reminds me of the opening scene of The 14-Carat Roadster.
“Ivan Gorchev, sailor on the freight ship ‘Rangoon’, was not yet twenty-one when he won the Nobel Prize in physics. To win a scientific award at such a romantically young age is unprecedented, though some people might consider the means by which it was achieved a flaw. For Ivan Gorchev won the Nobel Prize in physics in a card game, called macao, from a Professor Bertinus, on whom the honour had been bestowed in Stockholm by the King of Sweden a few days earlier. But those who are always finding fault don’t like to face facts, and the fact of the matter is that Ivan Gorchev did win the Nobel Prize at the age of twenty-one.”
(the book is hilarious, by the way)
“Obama [wins the Nobel peace prize] for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”
“Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future.”
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So, essentially a Nobel Peace Prize means nothing.
When M. E. Mann runs for the US presidency as a Republican you can expect the MSM to take note of this subtle difference between fancy and fact. Or – imagine the uproar if George W. Bush had been involved and instead of having a “prize” all he had was a paper “certificate.” [Likely 100% of readers on WUWT know of Michael E. Mann even as just Mann; except for a few academic acquaintances, no one I know has ever heard of this “holder of a certificate.”]
Q Whats the difference between Mann and Micky Mouse on a bad acid trip .
A Micky still makes some sense.
Monkton’s Grandfather earned the title of Viscount and the right to call himself a Lord. Denying Monkton the title is a direct insult to his grandfather’s accomplishments. The “House of Lords” thing is a technicality, where hereditary nobility had their voting rights removed, but were not technically removed from the House. Either way, he stil holds the position of Viscount, and the proper mode of address is “Lord”. That title is a family heirloom, and it is his right to claim it.
Mann did not earn a Nobel prize. He participated in a group that won the prize. Probably the best phrasing he can use was that he was a lead author with the “Nobel Prize winning IPCC”. This is completely different.
When Arafat won The Nobel PP, I wondered about it. When Algore won it, I realized it was a political thing.
When Dear Leader, won it, that sealed the deal.
NPP = political hokum.
For obvious reasons, beyond the problem with the science, I have no sympathy for Michael Mann. However, it is ironic that he is now the victim of misrepresentation by people promoting (hyping) his appearance at their event.
Most of the accusations of falsifying my credentials came from similar incorrect and overhyped statements in conference promotions. One example, was the length of time I taught at the University of Winnipeg. The false statements received particular focus through the Wikipedia item on me reportedly produced by William Connelly.
I had not intended to have a web page, because they are a monster that needs constant feeding, but set one up primarily to set the record straight.
Mark Twain said “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Now, with the internet, it is around the world hundreds of times before you even find the shoes. Interestingly, the remark is only attributed to Twain. The good news is the truth can travel as fast, if you make the effort.
You all are being mean to Dr. Mann. Next you’re going to claim he didn’t win an Oscar.
(/sarc, in case you need it).
The Nobel “Peace” Prize; not one of the Prizes awarded for something in science (like the Nobel Prize in Physics, or the Nobel Prize in Chemistry) …
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Seems fitting that Mann’s attendence will be sponsored by Goofy.
As we’ve all be saying, his work is pretty Mickey Mouse.
Michael Mann: “Don’t bother me with reality; what I’m looking for is a good fantasy.”
PS> And if it “pays”, so much the better!
If Dr Mann truly won the Nobel Peace Prize then I’m sure he will be happy to wear his medal at this event so we can all admire it.
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/medal.html
Strange, though, that I have not been able to track down any extant photos of him doing so so far. And well-founded rumour has it that he is not overinclined to hide his light under a falsely modest bushel. One might imagine that he would not have been shy of displaying his achievement – should he indeed be in possession of it. Or perhaps not.
Funny old game climatology…nothing is ever what it seems……….one always always always has to check everything a climatologist claims. There just occasionally might be some truth buried there and one wouldn’t wish to overlook such a rare occurrence.
The Nobel Peace prize is usually awarded to the Crack Pot of the year.
The sum of the information is the square root of the number of contributors.
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