I have other projects to do this weekend, so I’m taking off.
Moderation may be minimal or non-existent at times, so if your comment takes a long time to appear, don’t take it personally. In the meantime, please consider this poll.
I can’t fit the entire question into the poll header, so here it is in full:
If one existed, would you join a professional organization dedicated to offering an alternate to organizations like the American Meteorological Society, American Physical Society, American Association for the Advancement of Science, etc if this organization offered a peer reviewed journal, reasonable dues, and a healthy dose of climate skepticism rooted in science?
This stems from a conversation I had about three weeks ago, and this weekend seemed like a good time to ask the question.

Pat (May 6 9:37): Thanks for linking the dino fart article. I wonder if some prankster has gotten into the middle of the warmist circles?
I bought a new Citroen Saxo 1.4litre Diesel. I drove 120,000 miles in it and kept a log of all the diesel I bought and the milage. The day I got rid of it the average MPG over its whole life was 63mpg. Trouble was it was really too small for me as I am 6ft 2. My present 1.5litre Diesel Renault Senic is averaging 52mpg, or that’s what the onboard computer tells me.
These guys never give up – latest BBC science news is that dinosaur farting (CH4) kept the triassic and Jurassic warm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/17953792
Nothing to do with continent configuration, plants etc – just dinosaur farts.
Kelvin Vaughan says:
May 7, 2012 at 1:59 am
I bought a new Citroen Saxo 1.4litre Diesel. I drove 120,000 miles in it and kept a log of all the diesel I bought and the milage. The day I got rid of it the average MPG over its whole life was 63mpg. Trouble was it was really too small for me as I am 6ft 2. My present 1.5litre Diesel Renault Senic is averaging 52mpg, or that’s what the onboard computer tells me.
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I had a 1982 VW pick-up diesel that got 51 MPG. I now have a small dodge dakota 4 cylinder (gas) pick-up about the same size and it gets at best 21 MPG.
1998 Dodge data: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Dodge1998.shtml
Here are the MPGs for US vehicles in 2011 – Sorted Highest to Lowest Combined MPG on page two is a list of 4 cylinder Compact Cars that get no better gas milage than my 1976 V8 dodge cutlass (27 MPG over life of vehicle) that was much larger and heavier.
Given vehicles have gone from being built of steel with carburetors and catalytic converters in 1976 to being built of much lighter weight composites with fuel injectors and on board computers, you would think the MPG would be a heck of a lot better especially with those small four cylinder engines.
David Ball
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Gail Combs
Thanks for the note of confidence, I hope to be at WUWT as long as I don’t transgress. On RC they tolerate about one post a month, the rest ends ignominiously in the RC’s ‘bore hole’. Challenges by Dr.S here sharpen the mind (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/02/nasahathaways-updated-solar-cycle-prediction-smallest-in-100-years/#comment-976787 onwards), we disagree but get on fine.
No, I would not.
See jon shively May 5, 2012 at 12:08 pm.
Not sure where to post this, but I don’t think anyone has mentioned the Guardian article on Diageo no longer funding Heartland. I don’t really have a problem with them spending their money any way they choose. But I was outraged that they would say the reason was they are opposed to skeptical science. I really don’t get that. They only support subjective touchy feely science that is not subject to sceptical peer review? Very odd. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/06/diageo-end-funding-heartland-institute
Well, I have about four more Guinesses in my refrigerator. I think they may be the last I ever drink.
LexingtonGreen says:
May 7, 2012 at 2:08 pm
agreed, their ‘excuse’ is pitiful.
Gail Combs says:
May 7, 2012 at 5:24 am
In 1978, I had a Robin Reliant Supervan III – IIRC it was 600cc 4 cyl OHV engine and on a long steady run (60+mph) I could get almost 100mpg just by backing off on the throttle and ‘feeling’ the engine. Currently, I have a skoda fabia greenline 1.2TD 3 cyl diesel returns on average 65-70mpg. The phrase ‘one step forwards and 2 steps backwards’ springs readily to mind…..
ppfffttt. Got a gas Jeep Grand Cherokee that gets 16 mpg. Love every bit of this big bad boy.
Just saw this SheerWind, might be interesting. A different way to harvest the wind power?
Basically its a wind collector that grabs the gusts, routs it into a pipe, and then compresses the flow through a turbine.
http://www.sheerwinds.com
From the Website:
“SheerWind is changing the course of power generation and will transform the wind power industry with breakthrough performance and reduced cost of power generation.
SheerWind’s unique, patented technology, INVELOX captures, accelerates, concentrates, and generates electrical power while wind is at its optimum state of energy. INVELOX, named for INcreased VELocity of wind, captures wind as a fluid to provide hydroelectric economics from accelerated air flow to produce electricity cheaper than natural gas and a cut-in wind speed as low as 2 mph transforming wind energy into a reliable, baseload power source. This means the total market for INVELOX power plants will be as big as the total electric power market (traditional and renewable) that is about $250 billion in USA and exceeds $1 trillion globally.
SheerWind turns wind power on its head by taking the blades and turbines out of the sky and placing them at ground level creating positive economic, environmental and social benefits. INVELOX is a true game changer that reduces the cost of generated electrical power by 16% to 38% with 3x improved performance on 50% shorter towers placed on 90% less acreage, is operated and maintained at 40% to 45% lower costs, and uses 84% shorter turbine blades than traditional wind power generation systems. As a result, SheerWind won the Sustainability Award in the 2011 Cleantech Open – North Central Region.”
I stay sceptical, but its worth noting. Maybe at least fewer birds are harvested.
(I dunno if this comment was gobbled during the login)
Over at FarmShow Magazine, i caught a glimpse of a new kind of windmill
http://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=25459
“First Underground Windmill
Birds and bats have nothing to fear from a Minnesota startup company’s new underground windmill. Inventor Daryoush Allaei got the idea while working on a method of reducing vibration of conventional wind turbine blades. The new design he came up with works by funneling wind down into a tunnel in a way that increases …”
Here’s the followup info for this story:
Name: Daryoush Allaei
Website: http://www.sheerwinds.com
Looks like a Double vortex funnel tube in the air that grabs the wind, draws it down into a tunnel and then compresses through a turbine. See pictures and descriptions at SheerWinds website.
Seems interesting.
http://scienceofdoom.com/2012/02/12/potential-temperature/#comment-17122
Pamela Gray says:
May 7, 2012 at 7:26 pm
ppfffttt. Got a gas Jeep Grand Cherokee that gets 16 mpg. Love every bit of this big bad boy.
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Oh I also have two (1991 & 92) dodges with Cummins diesel engines a 3/4 ton (mine) and a dually (his) they get around 20-22 mpg when not hauling trailers. We are buying another Dodge 1/2 ton 1987 with a 318 with a holley carb. as a “spare” hauling vehicle sometime this week. For some reason we seem to be collecting dodge pick-ups since we gave up on cars.
On the other hand I lust after your jeep.
You will wait long and long for someone with a degree in climatology; it’s a pretend neologistic title the CRU Hokey Team applies (only) to itself. But you would wait forever for a “climatalogist” [sic].
>;-p