On Earth Day, another global warming opinion poll goes horribly wrong

WUWT and its large readership are often blamed for such results, in this case, we have nothing to do with it. Luboš Motl writes on his blog The Reference Frame

ABC1, an Australian TV channel, is planning to air…

I can change your mind about… climate

…on Thursday, April 26th, 8:30 pm. You may click the link above and check the trailer as well as the results of a poll about the attitudes concerning global warming.

When I was taking the screenshot, the “dismissive” group (including your humble correspondent) was covering 52% of the respondents. The number of alarmed respondents is more than twice smaller.

Seems like they’ll have an uphill battle changing those minds. Maybe the Australian Skeptical Science team of warm and fuzzy wombats can rally the charge for a turnaround.  😉

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April 22, 2012 5:38 pm

Meanwhile, northern hemisphere sea ice is quietly staging a late season rally……nothing to see there.

JohnR
April 22, 2012 5:52 pm

Your profile is DISMISSIVE
The Dismissive are sure that global warming is not happening. – ( No just the unprecedented and catastrophic part of it. ) – You say the issue is not at all important to you personally and are not worried about it at all. – ( Only the part where I have to pay for this scam ) – You, however, say that you have thought about global warming and believe you are well informed about the causes, consequenses, and potential solutions – ie., that there are none because it doesn’t exist. – ( Ain’t nothing happening now that hasn’t happened before ) – You are very certain about your views, and are very unlikely to change your mind about the issue. – ( You got that right ) – Many of the Dismissive flatly reject the proposition that global warming is happening, while a majority believe that if global warming is happening , natural changes in the environment are the primary cause. – ( Yep ) – Likewise, a majority believe there is a lot of disagreement amoung scientists over whether global warming is occurring, – ( No just the unprecedented and catastropic part ) – while over a fifth of the Dismissive believe there is a scientific consensus that global warming is not happening. – ( Sh*t… where did they get that consensus crap from ) – You say that global warming will not harm you personally or future generations at all. – ( Only financially. ) – Finally, you believe global warming will never harm people. – ( No this scam has already harmed a great deal of people. )
Boy talk about putting words in your mouth, they have a funny take on some things

kim2ooo
April 22, 2012 5:54 pm

Reblogged this on Climate Ponderings and commented:
Don’t forget to take the survey on April 27th

Steve from Rockwood
April 22, 2012 5:54 pm

Jenn Oates says:
April 22, 2012 at 4:46 pm
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Where is King City? I used to make my own beer and (sadly) still have a taste for it.
This isn’t the King City near Bradford is it?
Steve

David A. Evans
April 22, 2012 5:59 pm

Apparently, I’m of the dismissive persuasion.
This means that I deny the Earth has warmed, I don’t
Can I start aguing about whether temperature actually means anything now?
DaveE.

Chuck Nolan
April 22, 2012 6:09 pm

I ended up dismissive, too. Must be something wrong with the poll.

Byron
April 22, 2012 6:10 pm

David L says:
April 22, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“the dangers of dihydrogen oxide ”
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I like to use the dihydrogen monoxide description to wind up the chemophobic types `cos the monoxide bit makes it sound scarier :o)

TerryT
April 22, 2012 6:13 pm

Here’s a preview of the show from the Sydney Morning Herald.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/opponents-weather-the-storm-20120420-1xbp1.html

Richard Day
April 22, 2012 6:35 pm

Dismissive. And proud of it.

Resourceguy
April 22, 2012 6:36 pm

I’m not sure why they need a poll when the debate has ended, unless they need some progress report on indoctrination efforts.

Jenn Oates
April 22, 2012 6:43 pm

Steve from Rockwood, no, it’s in the Salinas Valley of California, in Monterey County. We’ve had a big family reunion there every year for the last 25, and it’s a great weekend. David Ball? I brew beer (and mead, actually) but don’t drink it. You’d think that would make me very popular with single gents my age, but so far, no luck there.
My CO2 production is for a noble cause, and I’m guessing that even the most rabid and mindless AGW advocate (and definitely all those Aussies at the ABC, because I have it on very good authority that all Australians like beer) would forgive me for putting more of the evil poison gas into the atmosphere.
Not that I’d care if they didn’t. 🙂

Resourceguy
April 22, 2012 6:45 pm

You would think someone somewhere would do a poll on the cost of global warming madness and that the biased budget interests of unions would collide with the biased budget interests of global warmers. But then with new tax sources to spread around with kick the can debt finance and with the gradual hollowing out of society from reduced investment in infrastructure and institutions there is time to play the fiction game with other peoples’ money.

April 22, 2012 6:53 pm

I’m dismissive, and thinking the survey could have gone further, such as ‘the australian government is guilty of treason, economic destruction, genocide…’
Get Up are a rapid response group, not all bad, notwithstanding toxic pollies, and will almost certainly flood the ABC poll on thursday afternoon and night (oz time).
James Delingpole will be in Kent Town in 1 hour, at the Bert Kelly Research Centre, postcode 5067. I hope to engage him for a few minutes.
I’m wondering how much I’ll reduce my carbon footprint if I use a bar fridge as a bedside cabinet ???
on a brighter note, the australian labor government is soooo close to imploding… one can at least hope !

MB
April 22, 2012 7:17 pm

“and Anna connected the dots to climate change.”
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/changeyourmind/s3418579.htm
There they go connecting dots again.

Chuck Nolan
April 22, 2012 7:29 pm

I retook the test. I still flunked
I tried to remember as many relevant questions as I could but……
Here’s the “they said…I said”
1. The Doubtful * (that’s me) * say they don’t know whether global warming is happening or not.
* I said I thought it was, some. How’s that doubtful?
2. You also say the issue is not personally important to you and you are not worried about it.
* Huh? I said it was somewhat important and I was somewhat worried.
3. You have thought only a little about global warming, and are informed only a little about the causes, consequences, and potential solutions, yet say that you are somewhat unlikely to change your mind about the issue.
* Not sure where they got all that. I don’t remember that question. Plus, I said my mind could be changed.
4. Most of the Doubtful believe there is a lot of disagreement among scientists over whether global warming is happening and believe that if global warming is happening, natural changes in the environment are the primary cause.
* I don’t remember the ‘scientists’ part but I do remember agreeing with some warming and confess my sin of blaming Gaea.
5. A majority of the Doubtful say global warming will harm them personally or future generations only a little or not at all, although some simply say they don’t know.
* True enough, I said a little.
6. Finally, you believe global warming will not start harming people for at least 100 years.
* I had to answer something or they’d never let me out.
I used my email address but postal code 6723. I said I was a 35 yosw female. Not sure how that affects their stats. My answers leaned lukewarm. They said I was “doubtful” but I said I believe.
The first time through, as a “dismissive” I gave my real vitals. They had me nailed. Dismissive and starting to feel contempt.

MB
April 22, 2012 7:29 pm

Apparently I am “dismissive” and join 52% of clever well informed Aussie voters who feel the same way. Dismissive is the new denier, don’t you know. And remember to chant: connect the dots, connect the dots. It’s the new thing, don’t you know. Buy the t-shirt!
“The Dismissive are sure that global warming is not happening. You say the issue is not at all important to you personally and are not worried about it at all. You, however, say that you have thought about global warming and believe you are well-informed about the causes, consequences, and potential solutions – i.e., that there are none, because it doesn’t exist. You are very certain about your views, and are very unlikely to change your mind about the issue. Many of the Dismissive flatly reject the proposition that global warming is happening, while a majority believe that if global warming is happening, natural changes in the environment are the primary cause. Likewise, a majority believe there is a lot of disagreement among scientists over whether global warming is occurring, while over a fifth of the Dismissive believe there is a scientific consensus that global warming is not happening. You say that global warming will not harm you personally or future generations at all. Finally, you believe global warming will never harm people.”
26% of voters were “Alarmed”:
“The Alarmed are the group most convinced that global warming is happening. Global warming is very important to you and you are very worried about it. You have thought a lot about the issue, believe you are well informed about the causes, consequences, and potential solutions, and are highly unlikely to change your mind. You believe there is a scientific consensus that global warming is happening, and overwhelmingly believe that human activities are the primary cause. Compared to the other five groups, you are the most likely to view it as a threat to you personally and to future generations, and as already harming people now rather than in the distant future.”

Hoser
April 22, 2012 7:33 pm

Let’s imagine I’m in VIC 3008 for the day, sitting in Starbucks on Spencer St., answering a few questions on line. They tell me I’m Dismissive. Crickey!

Chuck Nolan
April 22, 2012 7:35 pm

MB says:
April 22, 2012 at 7:17 pm
“and Anna connected the dots to climate change.”
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/changeyourmind/s3418579.htm
There they go connecting dots again.
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The problem is just one look at her picture and you know she believes. I wonder sometimes, what makes people believe in the “cause” to such unfathomable depths. I’m afraid it burns inside.

jonathan frodsham
April 22, 2012 7:38 pm

I just did the questionair:
Dismissive
The Dismissive are sure that global warming is not happening. You say the issue is not at all important to you personally and are not worried about it at all. You, however, say that you have thought about global warming and believe you are well-informed about the causes, consequences, and potential solutions – i.e., that there are none, because it doesn’t exist. You are very certain about your views, and are very unlikely to change your mind about the issue. Many of the Dismissive flatly reject the proposition that global warming is happening, while a majority believe that if global warming is happening, natural changes in the environment are the primary cause. Likewise, a majority believe there is a lot of disagreement among scientists over whether global warming is occurring, while over a fifth of the Dismissive believe there is a scientific consensus that global warming is not happening. You say that global warming will not harm you personally or future generations at all. Finally, you believe global warming will never harm people.
Read about other types: Alarmed, Concerned, Cautious, Disengaged, Doubtful, Dismissive.
You fall in the 52% of Australians, who’ve taken this ‘climate challenge’ who are Dismissive of global warming.
Ha ha ha. We are winning.

Ken in Victoria
April 22, 2012 7:44 pm

AndyG55 (from down-under)
The title of the show is “I CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT..CLIMATE”, so for the “after” poll to be valid the poll would HAVE to be restricted to only those people who voted before the show. If they didn’t vote before the show – how would the producers know if anyone changed their minds. I know it won’t happen though and you are probably right about GetUp.

April 22, 2012 7:53 pm

Reblogged this on TaJnB | TheAverageJoeNewsBlogg.

Gary Meyers
April 22, 2012 7:54 pm

Why not make our own poll? A poll that is totally unbiased. I know that with all of the talent that abounds here, someone can make a really great poll. I just don’t think that I could do it though. Anybody want to give it a go?

Clive
April 22, 2012 8:05 pm

Up here in the Colony of Canadia, CTV has an Earth Day poll. Fewer voters, but pretty much the same results as the Ozzies. URL is at the bottom.
How do you mark Earth Day?
I’ll do something special 262 votes (14 %)
Business as usual 1107 votes (57 %)
Bah, humbug 560 votes (29 %)
Total Votes: 1929
WOW!!! A huge (NOT!) 14% say they’ll “do something.” That probably means they drove their SUV to a park to plant a tree that will die anyway. Oooh that will save the planet from pending climate doom. ☺☺
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate?Results&id=259287&pollid=259287&tf=ctv%2Fgeneric%2Fhubs%2FctvNewsV2Sub.html&cf=ctv%2Fgeneric%2Fhubs%2FctvNews.cfg&hub=TopStories&subhub=VoteResult

tango
April 22, 2012 8:05 pm

the ABC in australia is a arm of the Gillard labor gov,t the worst gov,t in our history they are red all over and they are bringing in a 23$ a ton carbon tax 1st july

Aussie Luke Warm
April 22, 2012 8:10 pm

Yeah, I’m dismissive too, apparently. The survey had an either you’re with us or you’re against us flavour. It didn’t (probably deliberately) allow for the strongest, most common skeptic position known to me as the luke warm perspective: not denying CO2 GHG effect but believing on the basis of reported scientific research & measurement that it is not that significant, let alone catastrophic, and that other natural factors are much more significant in climate change.