Quote of the week – climate bookends and separations

I had planned to write about this, and specifically that Joe Romm’s blog “Climate Progress” appears to have died a quiet death of assimilation by the borg greens, saying:

We are now merging with ThinkProgress Green, and that means we’ll be adding two new regular bloggers, Jessica Goad, manager of research and outreach for CAP’s Public Lands Project, and Rebecca Leber, a ThinkProgress blogger and research assistant. They join Stephen, me, and all the regular Climate Progress contributors from the CAP energy team and blogging news room.

But Tom Fuller beat me to it in a guest post over at Jeff Condon’s place called Bookends and Separations. The assimilation of Climate Progress (which once had its own domain name) is just a symptom of a larger trend, and such assimilation must be a bitter pill for “Hero of the Environment″ Romm to swallow, as Fuller writes:

But people have pretty much stopped listening. They’ve even stopped writing. Joe Romm has folded his Climate Progress blog into the rubric of Think Progress’ larger efforts and now interns do much of his writing for him. Deltoid is down to one post a month, and it’s an open thread. Michael Tobis has fled Only In It For The Gold and is now writing at Planet 3–and complaining about a lack of traffic.

In a Republican primary with nine initial contestants, the amount of conversation about climate change was effectively zero. Over on the other side of the aisle, President Obama has almost abandoned the issue. The IPCC’s upcoming AR5 is, by all appearances, going to be much more subdued in its claims and much more reasonable as a result.

And this is the way it should be.

It’s the way it should be because climate change will return as an issue. Especially in America, where we love a second act to every story, anthropogenic climate change will return. Temperatures have plateaued at a high level and may even dip during this decade due to the muting effect of several natural cycles. But those cycles will end. And a new generation of scientists is readying itself to take up the argument again, untainted by the past disasters and mistakes of those currently sagging against the ropes.

The next generation of discussion may be calmer and more grounded in facts–looking at all the things humans do to influence climate and not just the CO2 we emit. It may not.

Read the whole post: Bookends and Separations.

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Meanwhile, WUWT traffic remains strong:

A lower number is better, for example Google is #1. Note the traffic blip on Feb 14th of Peter Gleick’s “Fakegate” didn’t last for DeSmog blog, as I’ve previously reported. My competition can’t seem to get out of the >100,000 “we don’t bother to track them” zone. You can run your own comparisons here.

I can’t compare Climate Progress or Deltoid, since they are subdomains of larger blogging aggregators, but before CP lost its domain name we were beating the pants off it traffic rank wise. With one post a month, Deltoid can’t have much in the way of traffic.

UPDATE: in related news, the Orange County Register seems to agree (h/t to Climate Depot)

Global warming alarmism becoming much less alarming: ‘Maybe it’s the Cry Wolf syndrome. Maybe it’s just taking notice of reality. Maybe it’s only a fad that’s run its course’

On a related note.

Many of you have written to me expressing concern for Steve McIntyre because he hasn’t posted anything since March 20th. I called him Friday and spoke with his wife. He’s fine, but engaged in a work project outside of blogging and is focusing on it. I can’t say that I blame him. Blogging, especially climate blogging with so many technical details,  is a huge time sink. My own business has suffered due to WUWT and I know Steve’s has. Where’s those big oil checks when we need it most?

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George E. Smith
April 14, 2012 7:30 pm

“”””” Bennett says:
April 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm
When our Prez visited Vermont a few weeks ago and gave a speech at UVM, it was too surreal to bear. He never really said anything, other than reciting a list of “things Vermonters want to hear” (to the cheering of several hundred invitation-only college students), “green energy!”, “renewable!”, “environment!”, and “scientific consensus!”. I had to turn off the radio, such was my disgust at having voted for the maroon in 2008. ……………………. “””””
How many times have we heard THAT lament ?
What I wonder Bennett, is just what exactly did YOU think you were going to get for your 2008 vote.
Please, please, Bennett, do NOT vote in 2012; leave that responsibility to responsible adults.
As for YOUR state; I’ll pay some heed to their “Greenness” when your State votes to outlaw the vandalism to trees to satisfy the juvenile craving for sugar. The corn belt of the USA can make all the sweet stuff anybody needs; the quaint habit in your locale belongs in the history books, along with living in caves.

Bennett
April 14, 2012 7:33 pm

“.I have been a successful entrepreneur for decades. ”
Caveat Emptor

gnomish
April 14, 2012 7:36 pm

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554479_10151492267140471_435917560470_23695707_2088229155_n.jpg
from hometown tragedy to international catastrophe, all the gloom you crave, 24/7.
you keep buying it and it will be delivered. handling fees and taxes apply.

Bennett
April 14, 2012 7:37 pm

Dave Dodd says:
“…their snarky comments result in much science being fired back at them–us mortals learn much from the barrage.”
Truth!

April 14, 2012 7:40 pm

““The IPCC’s upcoming AR5 is, by all appearances, going to be much more subdued in its claims and much more reasonable as a result.” REALLY? Based on exactly what evidence?”
The ZOD is most;y public. The FOD, I can report, is way better than AR4. For the chapters I feel competent to comment on.

Editor
April 14, 2012 7:47 pm

George E. Smith says: April 14, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Aw, George, cut Bennett some slack: he’s admitted his mistake. More importantly, however, don’t encourage them to cut back on the syrup supply. That stuff made with corn syrup and natural and artificial flavors and coloring just doesn’t cut it. Drill, Vermonters, Drill!

TRE
April 14, 2012 7:49 pm

Off thread, but I can’t resist.
“Consensus, Titanic unsinkable…”
If anyone else has already posted, my deepest apologies.
TRE

Bennett
April 14, 2012 7:57 pm

George E. Smith
Wow, you really do take yourself seriously, don’t you?
Have a nice life, where ever you live, in total blessed haromony with your eigth of an acre.

Chris B
April 14, 2012 8:01 pm

b24clark says:
April 14, 2012 at 5:48 pm
My mother, a mother of 8, used to say, “… you’ll get your reward in heaven.”
__________________________
I’ve heard it with the ending……..”cause nobody gives a _____ here.”
LOL

Bennett
April 14, 2012 8:01 pm

E. Phelan
Thanks man, I appreciate the slack.
I’ve learned and grown since ’08, and frankly, McCain and what’s-her-name still seem like a bad option, but then so did Obama.

April 14, 2012 8:08 pm

George E Smith 4/14 7:30 pm hey George lay off the maple syrup would you , I’ve been eating that stuff since I was a kid and the trees do fine because the harvesters don’t want to destroy the goose you know? I agree with Robert E Phelan at 7:47 drill baby drill!

HaroldW
April 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Anthony, thanks for the update about Steve McIntyre. Good to hear that all is well there.

Jim
April 14, 2012 8:20 pm

“Many of you have written to me expressing concern for Steve McIntyre because he hasn’t posted anything since March 20th.”
Are you sure Steve isn’t suffering the adverse psychological effects of fossil fuels?
See http://judithcurry.com/2012/04/13/psychological-effects-of-global-warming/

April 14, 2012 8:20 pm

George E. Smith says: April 14, 2012 at 7:30 pm
“As for YOUR state; I’ll pay some heed to their “Greenness” when your State votes to outlaw the vandalism to trees to satisfy the juvenile craving for sugar. The corn belt of the USA can make all the sweet stuff anybody needs; the quaint habit in your locale belongs in the history books, along with living in caves.”
______________
Please George. Production of maple syrup is “vandalism to trees” and should be outlawed? And what about cruelty to corn?
George, we live in a world where millions of children die every year from contaminated drinking water and preventable diseases, where slavery is still practiced, where over a hundred million people were killed in the last century by Stalin, Hitler and Mao.
We are not doing much better this century. We are teetering on the edge of a global economic crisis, We are also shadow-boxing with forces that apparently seek to extinguish the few remaining democracies of the world through the fraud of global warming – and history tells us that these zealots could, in time, equal the monstrous excesses of their 20th Century predecessors.
P.S. On a brighter note, please give my fond regards to Tom Bombadil, the Ents and the Huorns.

Jim
April 14, 2012 8:22 pm

I, for one, love Maple Syrup. It is one of the really good things in life. Keep it coming you guys!

John Blake
April 14, 2012 8:25 pm

Twenty minutes to go before the to-the-minute centennial of RMS Titanic’s introduction to sea-borne
reality vs. her “unsinkable” myth. Rest that great ship’s soul, with all aboard who perished that still night.
On this late evening c. AD 2112, circumspectors will look back in appalled chagrin at MS Global Warming’s headlong rush to meet the iceberg of her own creation. To such as those, we prefer the classic pirate sendoff: Damn their eyes!

EW-3
April 14, 2012 8:55 pm

Adam says:
April 14, 2012 at 5:40 pm
“Anthony,
I’ve asked before but I’ll ask again: I would love if you could post any tips you have learned about how to write a successful blog. Clearly you know how, and clearly the greens need the lesson.
-Adam
REPLY: I doubt I could coalesce it. For me it just a continuation of my 25 years of being a broadcaster. – Anthony”
Adam, Not difficult –
integrity, honesty, consistency, open mindedness, character and be willing to suffer the slings and arrows of those that do not have these characteristics.

Tom Harley
April 14, 2012 9:05 pm

OssQss says:
April 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Anthony, I have been a successful entrepreneur for decades. The time is right for you to grow. I am an interested investor, as passed on in emails.
—————-
A publication devoted to science to take the place of those propaganda outlets Nature, Scientific American, New Scientist, and the like, with Anthony at the helm looks good to me…a big market with all the moderators, commenters, readers and lurkers here for a start.

April 14, 2012 9:19 pm

And a new generation of scientists is readying itself to take up the argument again, untainted by the past disasters and mistakes of those currently sagging against the ropes.
And stuck on the idea that models are a true mirror of reality. My neighbor’s kid goes to Rutgers and was unaware that you could take *direct* measurements of temperature and atmospheric composition by sending radiosondes ‘waaaay up in the sky…

April 14, 2012 9:32 pm

“The next generation of discussion may be calmer and more grounded in facts–looking at all the things humans do to influence climate and not just the CO2 we emit. It may not.”
================================================================
It will not would be more appropriate. Here’s why….. http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/education-why-were-at-the-point-we-are/
We’ve a dysfunctional ecucation system and no one is putting it right. We give lip service
to teaching the hard sciences, but we don’t monitor what and how they are being taught. There is no “critical thinking” class. And, our children are never taught to engage in such. They are taught what to think, not how. The ideological indoctrination of our children is manifested by idiotic subjects such as CAGW.
The question isn’t whether this topic will come up again or not, the question is, what’s the next one? Water is a prime suspect. Our children don’t seem to understand one can’t use all of it up. If the earth starts to significantly cool, you can bet your a$$ global cooling will raise it’s head again. Schnieder will be a visionary. Of course, by then, most of us will be dead or dying, incapable of relating the lessons learned.
The internet isn’t where the fight begins nor ends. It is just the medium we are allowed to carry on the fight. In the end, if we don’t move beyond these boundaries, it is a losing proposition. Teach your children well, they’ll have a much harder row.

Mike McMillan
April 14, 2012 9:34 pm

Recycling. In this case, GIGO.

wermet
April 14, 2012 10:46 pm

George E. Smith says: April 14, 2012 at 7:30 pm

“”””” Bennett says:
April 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm
When our Prez visited Vermont a few weeks ago and gave a speech at UVM, it was too surreal to bear. He never really said anything, other than reciting a list of “things Vermonters want to hear” (to the kkshfdkgcheering of several hundred invitation-only college students), “green energy!”, “renewable!”, “environment!”, and “scientific consensus!”. I had to turn off the radio, such was my disgust at having voted for the maroon in 2008. ……………………. “””””
How many times have we heard THAT lament ?
What I wonder Bennett, is just what exactly did YOU think you were going to get for your 2008 vote.
Please, please, Bennett, do NOT vote in 2012; leave that responsibility to responsible adults.

That’s the wrong attitude George! If Bennett has learned his lesson, then we should be glad to have him vote against the current administration with their industry hating EPA, lack on respect for real science, and attempted intimidation of the Supreme Court.
And even if someone still want to vote for Obama — Don’t discourage them to not vote, iIt is still their right as citizens of the USA. Just try to convince them that they should vote differently this time! That’s all we can strive for.

April 14, 2012 11:12 pm

About the amount of conversation about climate change being effectively zero.
I have my doubts that many CAGW beliefs have dramatically changed. More like realization has set in that with reckless spending they’ve essentially burned down our house and continue torching it, that is making spending talk difficult. That is bipartisan, btw.

April 14, 2012 11:13 pm

OssQss says: April 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Anthony, I have been a successful entrepreneur for decades. The time is right for you to grow. I am an interested investor, as passed on in emails.
Could the time ever be better to ignite, and grow a business in this environment (no pun intended)?
__________________________
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/30/spencer-shows-compelling-evidence-of-uhi-in-crutem3-data/#comment-940075
Roy Spencer said:
“I would love to write this work up and submit it for publication, but I am growing weary of the IPCC gatekeepers killing my papers; the more damaging any conclusions are to the IPCC narrative, the less likely they are to be published. That’s the world we live in.”
___________________________
A proposed new procedure to publish scientific papers and conduct peer review:
Roy, you may recall that in early 2008 I asked Joe d’Aleo to published a paper for me on icecap.us and he kindly did so. I published all my data and calculations and my paper was critiqued in ClimateAudit.org by Willis and others. I believe this ad-hoc process constituted a far more rigorous peer review than the typical “pal review” that the hockey team and other global warming acolytes apply to their friends’ papers in the major journals.
Technology has made these journals and their review methods obsolete anyway. Why don’t you, or Anthony or Joe, etc. establish a website specifically for parties to publish their climate research papers and have them critiqued – the rules could be simple – publish your paper with all data and all supporting calculations. Anyone can critique your paper provided they mind their manners, dot their i’s and cross their t’s. No gates and no gatekeepers. I expect that you would soon leave these once-prestigious journals and their gatekeepers in the dust.

Michael Larkin
April 14, 2012 11:38 pm

In the end, those with a good sense of humour tend to win. This blog is good fun. I’ve yet to come across an alarmist blog where fun is readily to be had. Such “humour” as there is tends to be mere mockery of those who disagree. I think Anthony has been successful because of his good humour, which has kept him sane and stopped him becoming embittered and twisted like the opposition–he’s retained his humanity.