Friday Funny – expert opinion

While Dr. Richard Feynman famously said:

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.

Josh notes that climatologists do it with crystal balls…

Click image for full size to see what’s inside the ball. www.cartoonsbyjosh.com

How does one do climate predictions these days with a crystal ball, especially when most all is in a computer model? Add a USB port of course!

Here’s one for modeling the oceans:

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John Blake
April 13, 2012 1:22 pm

Science is the study of questions, not of answers. When Newton was aked, “Just what is this gravitational force you speak of?” he replied, “I don’t know, and I feign no hypotheses [hypotheses non fingo]”– but his equation described gravitational action definitively, and forever.
Einstein reported that at about age twelve he asked himself, “If I were riding a light-beam and looked back, what would I see?” The answer of course entailed Special Relativity… and likewise, about 1908 he asked again, “Does a falling body feel its own weight?” The answer there involved 4-D geodesics in Riemannian hyperspace, ie. General Relativity.
Lubos Motl is convinced that equations, numbers, precede such insights. But no… the greatest minds think geometrically, translating curves and whorls to Cartesian coordinates for computation purposes. So do AGW catastrophists think geometrically or numerically?– alas, we conjecture that, quite frankly, they think superficially or not at all.

Berényi Péter
April 13, 2012 1:32 pm

Gail Combs says:
April 13, 2012 at 8:35 am
Very appropriate given the recent influx of trolls telling us we need to publish stuff in “peer reviewed” journals or SHUT-UP.

Yep. If you have doubts concerning the memory of water for example, you should publish it in Homeopathy, where else?
Nasty aquatic panmnesia deniers…

Olen
April 13, 2012 2:26 pm

I may have given the wrong impression of Longstreth’s statement in his book.
After his statement that weather lovers are happy that it is forever beyond the reach of politicians he follows on with “But that comforting statement is no longer wholly true. Although nobody yet is charging admission to the weather, I say this with fingers crossed . Attempts to regulate rainfall are common, and legislation toward controlling the attempts is being put on the books. Thus the voter has a hand, however slight, in the weather.
He continues, It is not too soon for him or her to understand the complex arrangements of the atmosphere. By knowing what can or cannot be done, a hasty and unwise treatment of both the weather and the public pocketbook may be avoided.
His book is copyright 1943 and 1953

April 13, 2012 3:21 pm

Hi Ms. Combs
I must admit I know next to nothing about homeopathy, despite partly feeling responsible for some of the current comments in relation to it (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/01/unforced-variations-jan-2012/comment-page-3 )
I found this lecture on water’s properties fascinating

(with thanks to the Malaga View’s post at tallbloke’s blog).
I hope you find time to see it.

April 13, 2012 4:50 pm

here is the best usb product ever Mike Mann might need one of these when the people who pay his salary wake up
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/c208/?srp=3

Andrew
April 13, 2012 8:03 pm

Very funny! Perhaps the snowman should have a bubble saying: “no, it’s getting colder”

Anoneumouse
April 14, 2012 12:21 am

That’s similar to the ball that Senna the Soothsayer uses at the UK Met Office

Bloke down the pub
April 14, 2012 3:34 am

I am currently reading a book by Ben Goldacre called Bad Science. So far it is mostly about homeopathy and psuedo medicine but the take on the scientific method definitely applies to climate as well. As he has a column in the Guardian it’ll be interesting to see if he agrees with the rest of the journos from that organ.

Lars P.
April 14, 2012 5:10 am

Really great Josh! Thanks for the laugh!

UK Marcus
April 14, 2012 5:35 am

Definition of an expert: ‘X’ is an unknown quantity, and ‘spert’ is a drip under pressure.

Jim Masterson
April 14, 2012 8:08 am

>>
UK Marcus says:
April 14, 2012 at 5:35 am
Definition of an expert: ‘X’ is an unknown quantity, and ‘spert’ is a drip under pressure.
<<
I heard it slightly different For example, the prefix “ex” as in ex-scientist means former. So “expert” is a former drip under pressure.
Jim

Josualdo
April 14, 2012 10:29 am

Bloke down the pub says: April 14, 2012 at 3:34 am: I am currently reading a book by Ben Goldacre called Bad Science. So far it is mostly about homeopathy and psuedo medicine but the take on the scientific method definitely applies to climate as well. As he has a column in the Guardian it’ll be interesting to see if he agrees with the rest of the journos from that organ.
Yes, when it comes to CAGW, Ben completely forgets all he wrote in that book.

toyotawhizguy
April 14, 2012 10:24 pm

Attributed to Wernher Von Braun, his take on consensus, this gem has often been bantered about within our research labs:
“One test result is worth one thousand expert opinions.”
This famous quote by Dr. Carl Sagan raises the bar for pro-AGW Climatologists:
“Extraordinary claims [that global warming / climate change are anthropogenic] require extraordinary proof.”
Text within brackets [ ] inserted by yours truly.

Brian H
April 15, 2012 1:53 am

Climatologists are a great boon to science, as they make “belief in the ignorance of experts” easy.

icebear
April 15, 2012 4:51 am

What do you suppose RF would have made of Climatology in light of this:- http://neurotheory.columbia.edu/~ken/cargo_cult.html ?

Troy Jordan
April 16, 2012 9:56 pm

EXPERT : X= has been spert= a high pressure drip
Therefore
an EXPERT = a has been high pressure drip