Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Under the radar, and un-noticed by many climate scientists, there was a recent study by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), commissioned by the US Government, regarding climate change. Here is the remit under which they were supposed to operate:
Specifically, our charge was
1. To identify the principal premises on which our current understanding of the question [of the climate effects of CO2] is based,
2. To assess quantitatively the adequacy and uncertainty of our knowledge of these factors and processes, and
3. To summarize in concise and objective terms our best present understanding of the carbon dioxide/climate issue for the benefit of policymakers.
Now, that all sounds quite reasonable. In fact, if we knew the answers to those questions, we’d be a long ways ahead of where we are now.
Figure 1. The new Cray supercomputer called “Gaea”, which was recently installed at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. It will be used to run climate models.
But as it turned out, being AGW supporting climate scientists, the NAS study group decided that they knew better. They decided that to answer the actual question they had been asked would be too difficult, that it would take too long.
Now that’s OK. Sometimes scientists are asked for stuff that might take a decade to figure out. And that’s just what they should have told their political masters, can’t do it, takes too long. But noooo … they knew better, so they decided that instead, they should answer a different question entirely. After listing the reasons that it was too hard to answer the questions they were actually asked, they say (emphasis mine):
A complete assessment of all the issues will be a long and difficult task.
It seemed feasible, however, to start with a single basic question: If we were indeed certain that atmospheric carbon dioxide would increase on a known schedule, how well could we project the climatic consequences?
Oooookaaaay … I guess that’s now the modern post-normal science method. First, you assume that there will be “climatic consequences” from increasing CO2. Then you see if you can “project the consequences”.
They are right that it is easier to do that than to actually establish IF there will be climatic consequences. It makes it so much simpler if you just assume that CO2 drives the climate. Once you have the answer, the questions get much easier …
However, they did at least try to answer their own question. And what are their findings? Well, they started out with this:
We estimate the most probable global warming for a doubling of CO2 to be near 3’C with a probable error of ± 1.5°C.
No surprise there. They point out that this estimate, of course, comes from climate models. Surprisingly, however, they have no question and are in no mystery about whether climate models are tuned or not. They say (emphasis mine):
Since individual clouds are below the grid scale of the general circulation models, ways must be found to relate the total cloud amount in a grid box to the grid-point variables. Existing parameterizations of cloud amounts in general circulation models are physically very crude. When empirical adjustments of parameters are made to achieve verisimilitude, the model may appear to be validated against the present climate. But such tuning by itself does not guarantee that the response of clouds to a change in the CO2 concentration is also tuned. It must thus be emphasized that the modeling of clouds is one of the weakest links in the general circulation modeling efforts.
Modeling of clouds is one of the weakest links … can’t disagree with that.
So what is the current state of play regarding the climate feedback? The authors say that the positive water vapor feedback overrules any possible negative feedbacks:
We have examined with care ail known negative feedback mechanisms, such as increases in low or middle cloud amount, and have concluded that the oversimplifications and inaccuracies in the models are not likely to have vitiated the principal conclusion that there will be appreciable warming. The known negative feedback mechanisms can reduce the warming, but they do not appear to be so strong as the positive moisture feedback.
However, as has been the case for years, when you get to the actual section of the report where they discuss the clouds (the main negative feedback), the report merely reiterates that the clouds are poorly understood and poorly represented … how does that work, that they are sure the net feedback is positive, but they don’t understand and can only poorly represent the negative feedbacks? They say, for example:
How important the overall cloud effects are is, however, an extremely difficult question to answer. The cloud distribution is a product of the entire climate system, in which many other feedbacks are involved. Trustworthy answers can be obtained only through comprehensive numerical modeling of the general circulations of the atmosphere and oceans together with validation by comparison of the observed with the model-produced cloud types and amounts.
In other words, they don’t know but they’re sure the net is positive.
Regarding whether the models are able to accurately replicate regional climates, the report says:
At present, we cannot simulate accurately the details of regional climate and thus cannot predict the locations and intensities of regional climate changes with confidence. This situation may be expected to improve gradually as greater scientific understanding is acquired and faster computers are built.
So there you have it, folks. The climate sensitivity is 3°C per doubling of CO2, with an error of about ± 1.5°C. Net feedback is positive, although we don’t understand the clouds. The models are not yet able to simulate regional climates. No surprises in any of that. It’s just what you’d expect a NAS panel to say.
Now, before going forwards, since the NAS report is based on computer models, let me take a slight diversion to list a few facts about computers, which are a long-time fascination of mine. As long as I can remember, I wanted a computer of my own. When I was a little kid I dreamed about having one. I speak a half dozen computer languages reasonably well, and there are more that I’ve forgotten. I wrote my first computer program in 1963.
Watching the changes in computer power has been astounding. In 1979, the fastest computer in the world was the Cray-1 supercomputer. In 1979, a Cray-1 supercomputer, a machine far beyond anything that most scientists might have dreamed of having, had 8 Mb of memory, 10 Gb of hard disk space, and ran at 100 MFLOPS (million floating point operations per second). The computer I’m writing this on has a thousand times the memory, fifty times the disk space, and two hundred times the speed of the Cray-1.
And that’s just my desktop computer. The new NASA climate supercomputer “Gaea” shown in Figure 1 runs two and a half million times as fast as a Cray-1. This means that a one-day run on “Gaea” would take a Cray-1 about seven thousand years to complete …
Now, why is the speed of a Cray-1 computer relevant to the NAS report I quoted from above?
It is relevant because as some of you may have realized, the NAS report I quoted from above is called the “Charney Report“. As far as I know, it was the first official National Academy of Science statement on the CO2 question. And when I said it was a “recent report”, I was thinking about it in historical terms. It was published in 1979.
Here’s the bizarre part, the elephant in the climate science room. The Charney Report could have been written yesterday. AGW supporters are still making exactly the same claims, as if no time had passed at all. For example, AGW supporters are still saying the same thing about the clouds now as they were back in 1979—they admit they don’t understand them, that it’s the biggest problem in the models, but all the same but they’re sure the net feedback is positive. I’m not sure clear that works, but it’s been that way since 1979.
That’s the oddity to me—when you read the Charney Report, it is obvious that almost nothing of significance has changed in the field since 1979. There have been no scientific breakthroughs, no new deep understandings. People are still making the same claims about climate sensitivity, with almost no change in the huge error limits. The range still varies by a factor of three, from about 1.5 to about 4.5°C per doubling of CO2.
Meanwhile, the computer horsepower has increased beyond anyone’s wildest expectations. The size of the climate models has done the same. The climate models of 1979 were thousands of lines of code. The modern models are more like millions of lines of code. Back then it was atmosphere only models with a few layers and large gridcells. Now we have fully coupled ocean-atmosphere-cryosphere-biosphere-lithosphere models, with much smaller gridcells and dozens of both oceanic and atmospheric layers.
And since 1979, an entire climate industry has grown up that has spent millions of human-hours applying that constantly increasing computer horsepower to studying the climate.
And after the millions of hours of human effort, after the millions and millions of dollars gone into research, after all of those million-fold increases in computer speed and size, and after the phenomenal increase in model sophistication and detail … the guesstimated range of climate sensitivity hasn’t narrowed in any significant fashion. It’s still right around 3 ± 1.5°C per double of CO2, just like it was in 1979.
And the same thing is true on most fronts in climate science. We still don’t understand the things that were mysteries a third of a century ago. After all of the gigantic advances in model speed, size, and detail, we still can say nothing definitive about the clouds. We still don’t have a handle on the net feedback. It’s like the whole realm of climate science got stuck in a 1979 time warp, and has basically gone nowhere since then. The models are thousands of times bigger, and thousands of times faster, and thousands of times more complex, but they are still useless for regional predictions.
How can we understand this stupendous lack of progress, a third of a century of intensive work with very little to show for it?
For me, there is only one answer. The lack of progress means that there is some fundamental misunderstanding at the very base of the modern climate edifice. It means that the underlying paradigm that the whole field is built on must contain some basic and far-reaching theoretical error.
Now we can debate what that fundamental misunderstanding might be.
But I see no other explanation that makes sense. Every other field of science has seen huge advances since 1979. New fields have opened up, old fields have moved ahead. Genomics and nanotechnology and proteomics and optics and carbon chemistry and all the rest, everyone has ridden the computer revolution to heights undreamed of … except climate science.
That’s the elephant in the room—the incredible lack of progress in the field despite a third of a century of intense study.
Now me, I think the fundamental misunderstanding is the idea that the surface air temperature is a linear function of forcing. That’s why it was lethal for the Charney folks to answer the wrong question. They started with the assumption that a change in forcing would change the temperature, and wondered “how well could we project the climatic consequences?”
Once you’ve done that, once you’ve assumed that CO2 is the culprit, you’ve ruled out the understanding of the climate as a heat engine.
Once you’ve done that, you’ve ruled out the idea that like all flow systems, the climate has preferential states, and that it evolves to maximize entropy.
Once you’ve done that, you’ve ruled out all of the various thermostatic and homeostatic climate mechanisms that are operating at a host of spatial and temporal scales.
And as it turns out, once you’ve done that, once you make the assumption that surface temperature is a linear function of forcing, you’ve ruled out any progress in the field until that error is rectified.
But that’s just me. You may have some other explanation for the almost total lack of progress in climate science in the last third of a century, and if so, all cordial comments gladly accepted. Allow me to recommend that your comments be brief, clear and interesting.
w.
PS—Please do not compare this to the lack of progress in something like achieving nuclear fusion. Unlike climate science, that is a practical problem, and a devilishly complex one. The challenge there is to build something never seen in nature—a bottle that can contain the sun here on earth.
Climate, on the other hand, is a theoretical question, not a building challenge.
PPS—Please don’t come in and start off with version number 45,122,164 of the “Willis, you’re an ignorant jerk” meme. I know that. I was born yesterday, and my background music is Tom o’Bedlam’s song:
By a host of furious fancies Whereof I am commander With a sword of fire, and a steed of air Through the universe I wander. By a ghost of rags and shadows I summoned am to tourney Ten leagues beyond the wild world's end Methinks it is no journey.
So let’s just take my ignorance and my non compos mentation and my general jerkitude as established facts, consider them read into the record, and stick to the science, OK?
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Doug Cotton says:
There is much discussion of clouds herein, so I trust this is considered on topic. It is also an issue I have discussed in detail in my peer-reviewed paper…
Doug, I think a big part of the problem is that you come across a lot like a spammer. I’m sure that’s not your intention, and you may not even see it yourself (I can understand that you’re excited about your paper), but everything you say has to point to your “peer-reviewed paper where you”. A lot of others here have also published peer-reviewed papers, but they don’t hype them all the time like that.
Please, join the discussion, and please share when your paper is published. But please stop hawking it with every post, unless your desire is to get people to tune you out.
Uncle Terrence’s used to recount something his brother Dennis said to him once, there are several versions of the story, but it goes something like this:
W^3
Doug Cotton says:
March 8, 2012 at 1:15 am
Doug, the point is not the quality of your work. The point is that this post is about something completely different from your work. It is about the lack of progress in the field for the past 33 years.
I don’t know if your work is good, bad, or ugly. I’m just saying that this is not the right thread to discuss it.
I’ve had it up to here with my threads, which generally are about one specific thing, being cluttered up with people like yourself who want to tell me about your brilliant ideas about something completely different. I don’t care if they’re brilliant, Doug. They are way, way off-topic. We’ve already heard on this thread from the folks who think radiation can’t heat water, the folks who think that surface tension somehow is critical in energy exchange, from people like yourself who want to discuss the Second Law of Thermodynamics …
I don’t care. No, that’s not quite correct. I care about all scientific ideas, but NOT ON THIS THREAD. From time to time I put up whole threads about these ideas and invite people to discuss them.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE THREADS.
So please, Doug, and the surface tension folks, and the “IR can’t heat water folks” … take it someplace else. Don’t go away mad.
Just go away.
(Willis waves his hand in an oracular manner and intones:) “These are not the threads you are looking for!”
w.
PS—I also generally don’t pay the slightest attention to claims where people say they have “debunked” something. There is no such thing in science as “debunking”, and so the claim marks the author as an activist rather than a scientist.
Willis, sometimes progress consists of figuring out that what you thought you knew wasn’t actually so. The history of economics teaches many hard lessons of this type. The work by Granger, Newbold and Phillips, beginning in the 1970s, to identify the problem of spurious regressions and unit roots in economic time series and provide a theoretical explanation, was an amazing example of intellectual progress. But the implication was that a lot of the empirical work on which economic modeling had been based up to that point was garbage. It’s a painful part of the evolution of any discipline to see a theoretical or empirical tradition busted up by new findings or new data, and I don’t suppose climatologists are any more or less receptive to the process than experts in any other discipline.
I do suspect there is an institutional difference, though. Modern climatologists all work in academic societies that have issued position statements on climate change that effectively make loyalty to a set of conclusions a precondition of being a member in good standing of the society. Economics societies do not issue position statements, leaving it up to individual members to speak for themselves. I think the latter tradition is more conducive to progress.
Septic Matthew/Matthew R Marler:
A biologist predicts a gazelle will leap because a lion is near. The prediction is accurate because the behaviour of gazelles has been studied and, thus, is known. A model of the complex gazelle structure and central nervous system is not needed for the prediction to be accurate, and such a model which could make the prediction may not be capable of construction for centuries to come.
But concerning the problems with models of the even more complex climate system, in your post at March 8, 2012 at 9:51 am you suggest:
“Maybe something as clearly revolutionary as the Hahn-Meitner-Strassman discovery of uranium fission will occur, but the solutions we seek may well come from persistent dedicated efforts of the kinds now underway and planned.”
Perhaps and perhaps not.
At issue is how much longer are we supposed to throw money at this in the hope that “the solutions we seek may well come from persistent dedicated efforts of the kinds now underway and planned”.
33 years have passed since the Charney Report and (as the above article by Willis points out) there has been no progress over that time; none, zilch, nada. Expenditure to achieve this nothing is probably running at more than US$ 5 billion p.a.. The US alone is spending US$ 2.5 billion p.a. on it.
And all we have obtained is evidence which refutes the underlying model assumption of rising atmospheric GHG concentrations (especially CO2 concentrations) forcing global temperature upwards; e.g.
The ‘hot spot’ is absent.
The “committed warming” asserted by the last IPCC report has not happened.
No climate model prediction has yet proved correct.
Global temperature has been falling for more than a decade will both anthropogenic CO2 emissions and atmospheric CO2 concentration have continued to rise.
Importantly, no climate model emulates the climate system of the real Earth.
The inability of any climate model to emulate the Earth’s climate system should not surprise any rational person. As I have repeatedly pointed out on this blog and elsewhere, the climate system is more complex and has more interactive components (e.g. biological organisms) than the human brain has interactive components (e.g. neurons). Extreme scepticism would confront anybody who claimed to have constructed a computer model of the human brain that could predict b rain behaviour, but you suggest that computer models of the climate system “may well come from persistent dedicated efforts of the kinds now underway and planned”. Yeah. Really. You expect rational people to swallow that!?
It is time to stop the waste of money on the hubristic construction of GCMs. Expenditure should be directed at monitoring climate parameters around the world. When we have detailed knowledge of climate behaviour then we may be able to predict that behaviour. But a model of the climate system may never be capable of such prediction.
Richard
Dave says:
March 8, 2012 at 4:11 am
Thanks, Dave, a good question. You need to look hard at the underlying assumptions.
For example, if you ask the question “how well can we predict the effect of beta blocking drugs on blood pressure”, you are assuming that the drugs have an effect, and the only question remaining is how well we can PREDICT the effect.
This is a very different question from “What EVIDENCE do we have that beta blockers affect blood pressure”, and will lead to very different answers.
With one question, we will search for and look at evidence. With the other question, we will look at our predictions. Those are very different paths, particularly in climate science where predictions means models.
w.
curryja says:
March 8, 2012 at 4:37 am
I thought I had a link in the head post … hang on … yeah, I did have one, it was here:
Good to see you,
w.
Chuck Nolan says:
March 8, 2012 at 5:10 am
I love people with real world experience, they get it. That is exactly what’s going on, Chuck. They’ve been troubleshooting far too long.
w.
Theo Goodwin says:
March 8, 2012 at 5:22 am
Indeed, Theo, the surprising thing to me when I read the Charney Report was how far back the rot had started, and how much they were overlooking science in favor of advocacy even back then.
w.
Willis says:
“That’s the elephant in the room—the incredible lack of progress in the field despite a third of a century of intense study.”
I ain’t sayin that you treated me unkind,
You coulda done better but I don’t mind,
You just kinda wasted my precious time,
Don’t think twice, it’s all right.
tallbloke said @ur momisugly March 8, 2012 at 12:58 am
This appears to contradict the explanation of the pan evaporation paradox. The measured decrease in evapotranspiration over the last 50 yr is supposed to be due to an increase in cloud cover. The increase in cloud cover was supposedly confirmed by measurement of earthshine from the moon.
Michael Palmer says:
March 8, 2012 at 8:28 am
That is assuredly not the definition of a forcing that is used in climate science. In climate science, a “forcing” is generally taken to be a change in the downwelling radiation at the top of the atmosphere.
Whether this change in downwelling radiation ends up changing the temperature, or whether it is simply balanced out by e.g. a change in the cloud albedo, is the huge unanswered question in climate science.
And the fact that you think this question has been answered means you are not following the story. You can’t simply claim that the biggest unanswered question in the field is answered.
w.
PS—It might be many things, but “innocent scientific mistake” was certainly not on my list.
Septic Matthew/Matthew R Marler says:
March 8, 2012 at 9:51 am
You’re missing my point. You seem to think that “the answers are consistent decade after decade” means something other than that they are asking the wrong question. My point is, the answers are just the same now as they were in 1979.
Your statement that “The answers are consistent decade after decade” is merely another way of saying what I said, that there has been very little progress in the field for a third of a century.
w.
PS—Ray Pierrehumbert is one of the most committed of the AGW alarmists, and one of the people behind RealClimate. Believe anything he says at your own peril.
Doubting Rich said @ur momisugly March 8, 2012 at 9:52 am
Unfortunately, you are incorrect here. Systems with positive feedback can be stable. Back in the dim and distant, the Git built a single valve radio of the sort called a TRF. This included a gain control that used positive feedback to increase the available amplification of the signal received. Too much feedback produced a squeal from the headphones, but a lesser amount allowed turning very weak unusable signals into something comprehensible from the furthest parts of planet Earth. Sadly, there’s too much EMF noise these days for such a simple circuit to be useful.
While the climate system is dominated by negative feedbacks, this is not evidence of absence of positive feedbacks also occurring.
I think the reason there has been no advancement of the science is that the advancements that were made went in the “wrong” direction and were discarded.
Congrats on the effort by all, I’m impressed with many of the comments.
I agree that the climate issue lacks progress since 1979 due to using the wrong analytical tools.
In 1900 Climatologists thought he atmosphere was of geological origin, so was studied using the tools of physicists. That’s just a start. A couple billion years ago the chemistry of the earth began to show signs of biological activity.
It seems that those early observations show that the atmosphere is primarily biological. Nitrogen, Oxygen and CO2 are entirely parts of planetary scale biological cycles. Bacteria produce Nitrogen, photosynthesis produces Oxygen, CO2 comes from respiration. Water/oceans are a biological soup. The entire land surface is covered with living soil. Trees are 92 percent CO2 and 7 percent water.
It seems that if you want to understand how the atmosphere behaves, you need to use the tools of biologists. I’m sure that physicists would resist that idea.
How many of the climate models in 1979 included biological interactions??
How many of the 2012 climate models include the fact that the atmosphere is derived from 2 billion years of biological activity?
Nothing has changed since 1979 – the same difficulty in reconcilling the complex functions of clouds and water vapour, the same inability to narrow the range of temperature projections. The funny thing, while reading this, it reminded me of one other area of science that is also stuck in a time warp.
This has to do with string theory – a particular model in theoretical physics that tries to produce a theory of the universe that will reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. This too has gone nowhere in about the same period of time. An entire generation of physicists have spent their careers trying to define the one string theory model (there are 10**500 possible variants) that actually works. What’s gone wrong?
I think what has done for this area of physics is exactly the same as that which has stymied progress in climate science. For most of the last 30 years, string theory has been the only game in town. To obtain professorial positions, you have to do string theory. All alternative avenues or research, such as quantum gravity, have been all but crowded out. It is as if a consensus exists about what line of research is the correct one, which ideas are valid, and which are to be shunned.
There can be little doubt either, that climate science has been burdened with the same tunnel vision, the same obsession with a single paradigm. The effect this has on how the science is done, who gets tenure, and what ideas are to be promoted, and what ideas shunned, should be obvious to anyone who reads WUWT.
The really sad thing is, that nothing seems to change. It is if a form of delusion has taken hold. Maybe this is Thomas Kuhns paradigm shift (or lack of shift) in action.
The Pompous Git says:
March 7, 2012 at 10:51 pm
I find it fascinating that optics is still moving ahead by leaps and bounds even though the major breakthrough (clear glass) occurred over a thousand years ago and spectacles 800 years ago. Without them, my life would be hell. Maybe climatology is still stuck in the Dark Ages 😉
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I think your last statement is about as close to the truth as one can get. Political considerations trumping the pursuit of truth.
BTW, my eyesight is very bad. My latest glasses are amazing. Progressive trifocals made from a very high IF material with anti-reflective coating. Ever pair of glasses I get are more advanced then the last pair, and this has been the case for 30 years.
There should be ways to measure increased feedback. Why theese scientists don’t show increased backradiation? Because there is no increase in real life, increase is only in computermodels. Greenhouse theory is somehow wrong, because data won’t fit the theory model or calculations. Solarforcing is underestimated and CO2 effect is wastly overestimated. If thermometer shows cooling – it has to be broken. LOL Argo showed cooling in north atlantic so they adjusted data wihout fixing thermometers. Why? There was nothing to fix. LOL
From Delingpole’s article in ‘The Commentator’, a London-based magazine.
“… here’s MIT atmospheric physicist Professor Richard Lindzen addressing the House of Commons in February: “Perhaps we should stop accepting the term ‘skeptic’ because ‘skepticism’ implies doubts about a plausible proposition. Current global warming alarm hardly represents a plausible proposition. Twenty years of repetition and escalation of claims does not make it more plausible. Quite the contrary, the failure to improve the cause over 20 years makes the case even less plausible, as does the evidence from Climategate and other instances of overt cheating.”
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/972/the_high_priests_of_global_warming_have_lost_their_prestige_and_the_realists_are_winning_the_debate
Excellent post Willis. There is something that puzzles me I wish that you (or anyone else) might address. Why has the climate sensitivity range in the (what is it?) 23 AOGCM’s used by the IPCC not been “tuned”, “fudged” or adjusted to show more convergence rather than being left just where it was in 1979? Of course, the reduced range and mean or “best estimate” would still need to imply catastrophe, but the modellers could say, “See, we are getting there.” One explanation that came to mind was that maintaining a broad, but not absurdly broad, range was part of the “program” all along. As you reduce the range, you increase the likelihood that some subrange within that reduced range will, despite the consensus’ best efforts, be shown to be empirically false or implausible. Now you are stuck with an even narrower range, and the same problem will come at you again even worse than before. So the strategy fell into place to protect the climate sensitivity range at all costs. When I say “strategy,” I do not mean to imply that this had to develop by agreement, but perhaps by some sort of spontaneous intellectual synchronization much like Joseph Sobran’s concept of the behive that starts to buzz without taking a decision to do so.
Quantum computing might *eventually* be able to help model the non-linear behaviors of climate. There is tremendous progress being made outside of traditional linear computer designs. I got a ‘C’ from second semister Differential Equations and was damn glad to get that C. its just really hard conceptually… Applied to Control Systems in 400 level B.S E.E. school we had to use sparse matrixes of diff eq’s to model forcings in rather simple electronic control systems. A quantum computer could in theory implement those sparse matrixes in near real-time but EEs take liberties with the math that I doubt could be sustained for actual science. Very interesting discussion with actual science! Who knew actual science continues in spite of Big Science!
Calling Douglas Adams, we need a planet sized-computer building….
That was a very thoughtfull editorial, but not without points of debate. To say that climate science has made little progress since 1979 is probably a bit of an exageration. I think it would be more accurate to say that official climate reporting has made very little progress.
The study and modeling of our little blue dot has improved more than most people know. They can actually do better than random chance on a 5 day forecast now!! That’s not bad!! There are a whole host of new land, sea and space observatories with instrumentation never before available.
So, although the reports read almost exactly like the reports from 30 years ago, the observational data and our skill at using it has improved. Eventually that data is going to overwhelm the beliefs of the orthodoxy, but as with many scientific paradigms of the past, the concensus will not change unitl the present clergy retires and new idea are brought in by a new generation.
If we simulate a natural chaotic system a billion times with a billion different random scenarios and we end up with a billion different outcomes, then what is the significance of one of the simulation runs matching a theoretical result or even a wild assumption you had before you began?
It boggles the mind how the laughing stock of the scientific community with their man made global warming catastrophic climate change bias, that have made no progress over the years while receiving bloated research funding, who claim to be trying to understand what they also claim to be “Settled Science” (i.e “AGW causes colder NH winters”) Why do they get to play with the very expensive scientific instruments.
Maybe it’s time to let some of the brighter kids play with our publicly owned toys, Maybe to contribute to some progress in such areas like solar physics, astronomy, nuclear fusion and other productive areas of science.