Quote of the Week – alarmists missing targets

Ross McKittrick writes in with this:

A bracing essay at Pointman’s. I particularly like this bit:

The problem the alarmists had, was that there was never anything substantial to hit back at. They had the equivalents of the big guns and the massive air support but there never was a skeptic HQ to be pounded, no big central organization, no massed ranks of skeptic soldiers or even any third-party backing the resistance.

Every one of the skeptics was a lone volunteer guerrilla fighter, who needed absolutely no logistical support of any kind to continue the fight indefinitely. The alarmists never understood this, preferring to think that there simply had to be some massive hidden organization orchestrating the resistance. While they wasted time and effort attacking targets that only existed in their head, each of the guerrillas chewed on them mercilessly in their own particular way.

http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/the-climate-wars/

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Myrrh
March 5, 2012 4:41 am

Allan MacRae says:
March 4, 2012 at 1:38 am
Re: • It is basically anti-civilization. In its essence, eco-extremism rejects virtually everything about modern life. We are told that nothing short of returning to primitive tribal society can save the earth from ecological collapse. No more cities, no more airplanes, no more polyester suits. It is a naive vision of a return to the Garden of Eden.
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To this end they have infiltrated the education system to teach a fictional fisics, from which aeroplanes could not be built. Deliberately dumbing down the general population so what’s left after their eugenics solution will have no real science education.*
Like all self-obsessed psycho/sociopaths, they haven’t the nous to understand consequences anymore than they can understand where creativity comes from, that it is no respector of persons.
*If those reading here think “gases have no buoyancy” and “shortwave from the Sun heats land and oceans”, you’re already in this category. The AGWSF KT97 and tweaks energy budget is the fictional fisics you’ve been taught, impossible in the real world.

March 5, 2012 12:04 pm

So, can anyone tell this non-scientist how “bio-fuel” is supposed to help the whole CAGW thing, since proponents of one are almost invariably proponents of the other.
Let me see if I have my facts straight. Carbon emissions are the problem, and a huge source of carbon emissions come from burning fossil fuels, so if we switch to bio-fuels… well, what exactly?
You are switching from burning fuel and emitting carbon to an energy source where you burn fuel and emit carbon just to make the fuel, and then emit carbon all over again when you actually use the fuel? And yet nuclear power is still absolutely verboten?
Am I the only one who doesn’t understand this ridiculous contradiction?

Matt G
March 5, 2012 1:11 pm

The simple fact is that it takes little/no funds to show scientific observations over decades fail CAGW. Any lone volunteer guerrilla fighter can easily display and counter these claims.

March 5, 2012 1:48 pm

Over the years they have exposed themselves as collectivist, paranoid and far more of a political movement than a scientific. Nowadays besides the scientific discussions themselves they rarely fail to pick on ‘right wing’ opponents, as if science is not about measurement and knowledge but ideology. Well, for them it is, but not for anyone else.
Those immune to the hysteria see lots of extremely weak minded people being manipulated by a few powerful crooks manipulating their trust and immaturity to wreck as much of society as possible, and to them see no end of the mission to carry on removing our rights and wealth although as based on alleged facts they cannot maintain the illusion for ever. Truth has to leak, as it did with the latest glacier data and one by one when new measurements are made each of their pillars will fall. The fact a Canadian witness testified in court polar bears had a healthy population of 25,000 and it was only reported on one website proves every time something catches them out the media always keep well away bar a couple of British columnists who carry out the work between them while their papers publish alarmist articles as well, sometimes in the same issue as they have no interest in facts, just stories.

Allan MacRae
March 5, 2012 3:03 pm

Peter Kovachev says: March 4, 2012 at 11:15 am
“Allan MacRae, that’s a very important point to remember, the collapse of the socialists in the West due to their unsustainable narratives, as streams of refugees, unjustifiable brutalities by communist and socialist regimes and finally, the economic collapse of those systems….”
Thank you Peter for your worthwhile observations. I recall one of the leaders of the national socialist NDP Party in Canada, spouting off about how Canada should emulate East Germany, which he called “the Workers’ Paradise”.
Based on the East Germany I saw in 1989, he was either a subversive or just one of the Soviets’ “useful idiots”. They used to trot these imbeciles around their Potemkin villages, showing off happy dancing workers, and then send them home to spread their falsehoods.
East Germany was portrayed in the Canadian press as the “industrial powerhouse” of the Soviet Bloc – in fact, it was an utterly primitive backwater compared to its West German counterpart.
Your point about the sudden, strange conversion of pro-Soviet Western leftists to the environmental movement is also interesting, since there was NO environmental movement in the Soviet Bloc, and severe pollution of air, water and soil was endemic.

March 5, 2012 7:49 pm

Allan MacRae says:
March 5, 2012 at 3:03 pm
… I recall one of the leaders of the national socialist NDP Party in Canada, spouting off about how Canada should emulate East Germany, which he called “the Workers’ Paradise”.
Sounds like our Ed Broadbent. Otherwise a bright chap and on the whole a principled fellow (so, most likely a “useful idiot”), on the wrong political side who like many, went overboard with his adulation of communism for a while, but then became more mainstream. It was weird moving to Canada as a kid in 1972. We had just witnessed the Soviet occupation of Czechoslovakia and the increasing brutality as the neo-Stalinists re-took and consolidated their grip, but over here, people were falling in love with socialism and were actually pining for the same system we had to crawl under wires to get away from. Go figure.
“East Germany was portrayed in the Canadian press as the “industrial powerhouse” of the Soviet Bloc – in fact, it was an utterly primitive backwater compared to its West German counterpart.” Ha! What was scary is that it actually was a powerhouse…comparatively speaking. East Block engineers and technicians dreamed of work contracts there. This tells you a lot about the utter disaster the USSR and the rest of the Warsaw Pact had become industrially. Big factories belching smoke 24/7, employing entire towns and producing little but industrial waste.
Your point about the sudden, strange conversion of pro-Soviet Western leftists to the environmental movement is also interesting, since there was NO environmental movement in the Soviet Bloc, and severe pollution of air, water and soil was endemic. Apart from the rare and organized tours, there never was any actual connection or communication between Western leftists and Eastern Europe’s inmates, the workers in their paradise. And a good thing that was too, for while the Western “kids” and “beatiful people” might have manged to look away from the smog and rivers of chemicals, had they shown up there looking the way they did, a local committee of retirees, with the help of a chain-smoking, almost-sober milicia goon would have dragged them to the nearest barber for a buzz-cut and confiscated the banned bell-bottoms and Levi jeans…to be sold on the black market to children of Party officials. Wisely the two sides decided not to mingle too much.

Allan MacRae
March 9, 2012 5:56 pm

Thank you Peter for your testament – you were there in the East Bloc, to bear witness to the brutality. dysfunctionality and the environmental degradation.
My family has been fortunate to have lived in Canada for about 200 years.
May I say, belatedly, to you and yours: “Welcome to Canada! “I’m happy that you are here.”

March 16, 2012 3:15 am

McRae;
The West German heavy equipment we were being asked to review was so primitive …
😉
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Wade says:
March 15, 2012 at 5:33 pm

But if there is anything I’ve learned over the year is that people who thirst for power don’t give up until they have what they want. Two things corrupt more than anything else: money and power. Climate scientists have been corrupted by both.

The original, and more accurate, quotes are:
that the love of money is the source of all evil.
that power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
In addition, it has been documented now that power tends to stupefy, and absolute power stupefies absolutely.
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It is noteworthy that Mann was promoted to dept. head right out of his PhD program, way beyond his competence, as a result of some big grant-raising hits. His further stupefaction has proceeded apace, as a Hokey Team mover and shaker.

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