I was looking through some CG2 emails today for something else, and I came across this one. Email #3538. It is funny. For those who don’t know what the “before and after” portion of the game is about, this Yahoo answers might be helpful.
Here’s the relevant portion of the email (bold mine):
—-Messaggio originale—-
Da: p.jones@xxxxxx.xxx
Data: 21.12.2007 13.25
A: <jacopo.pasotti@xxxxx.xx>
Oggetto: Re: AW: Re: PS AW: Fwd: Re: more questions
Jacopo,
I’m not going to comment on your text, because
your report is awful. I thought you wanted a balanced
report. What you’ve written isn’t. You’ve not understood
any of what was said on the Real Climate Audit web site.
You have several words wrong and what you say doesn’t
make sense at times. But you don’t seem to want to
discuss proper climate science.
Phil
Heh. Proof positive McIntyre really got into Jones head.
Source here
Tom Nelson has a relevant email also:
Email 1342, June 2008, Phil Jones on his own keen mental powers: “I get people coming up to me now saying we met in 199? and have no recall of our meeting – sometime no recall of even going to the meeting where I was supposed to have met them!”
This is fine. I don’t remember talking to you at IUGG in Boulder ! I am approachable though and have talked to lots of people. I get people coming up to me now saying we met in 199? and have no recall of our meeting – sometime no recall of even going to the meeting where I was supposed to have met them!
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I knew the guy had halfheimers, email 1342 just confirms it. Maybe he’s past half.
Haha! I love those Freudian slips; that’s how you really know what’s on a person’s mind.
And it’s certainly reassuring to read that Phil Jones is an “approachable” chap. In his valued opinion, anyway.
And our Phil is on a salary bracket of £54133 to £125000! You don’t get many of him to the pound.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/71-of-cru-salaries-paid-by-grants/
What did jacobo write? I’d like to see that.
Nice find, that brought a chuckle.
Oh, just got the joke. Still would like to know what Jacobo said 🙂 REAL CLIMATE AUDIT !!!!
Well at least he’s honest about ‘something’!
Real Climate Audit! As he trying to correct some other putz! That is so rich!
I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified. We all of us make stupid mistakes in emails (though I agree conflating the two blogs is quite funny) but in themselves they say nothing about our professional competence. By contrast, commenting on the email where he admitted he could not calculate a trend using Excel, which reflected on his professional competence, was valid.
Hey! Leave Phil Jones alone, he is doing a wonderful job.
Just been reading about it on the Watts up with Skeptical Science website.
Re 12:57:
When you’re telling someone else that they don’t know what they’re talking about…it’s best to have all your eggs in a row.
“Phil Jones is an ‘approachable’ chap. In his valued opinion, anyway.”
Apparently, he also gets to define “proper” climate science. I wonder who assigned him that responsibilty?
Looks like jacopo should not be publishing in English.
It would be funny if Jones had said Real Climate Audit several times in his e-mails and if jacopo had gone to Climate Audit by accident at Jones suggestion. That might explain why Jones did not like what he was reading.
Yeah, unless you’re a non-teammate and looking to replicate something he’s published. Then you’re just a contrarian trying to find something wrong…
DonK31 says:
February 5, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Re 12:57:
When you’re telling someone else that they don’t know what they’re talking about…it’s best to have all your eggs in a row.
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That would be ducks in a line.
Re: Robert of Ottawa
I think the article was published in Science 11 January 2008 Vol. 319 no. 5860 p. 144 but I can not be absolutely sure because it is pay walled.
“You have several words wrong and what you say doesn’t
make sense . . .”
Sounds like a snippet from a conversation at a nursing home.
For added bite, just throw in “sonny” or “missy” after “wrong”.
DonK31, I prefer to have all my ducks in one basket… but they always end up fighting. Noisy things.
Real Climate Audit… how appropriate that the word is oxymoron.
Give Jones a break, he’s jetting around the world to prove to politicians that only him and them should be jetting around the world.
Monty Pyton knew about this long before you guys.. Refer to this documentary on Village Idiots. If you listen carefully you’ll hear that they do their degrees at UEA.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/05/phil-jones-plays-wheel-of-fortune-before-and-after/
I’ve been busy reading over at the . . .
Australian Bishop Carlin Climate Madness Blog
and at the . . .
Frakking Chiefio Digging Jennifer site
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“what you say doesn’t make sense”
Since when has climate science made sense?
Another corollary of Muphry’s Law! (‘Posts correcting grammar or spelling errors are likely to contain same.’)
“It isn’t easy being green”
-Kermit THE Frog
Ron Manley said:
February 5, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified.
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It is an exposure rather that an attack, and as such, quite justified.
If you want to see attacks, look up any well-known Skeptic on sourcewatch.org or wiki
Ron Manley said:
February 5, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified.
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Ron,
Its not so much ad homenim as it is an insight into how this guy thinks. He’s mad as hell and like most of us, gets irrational when that happens. He’s mad, because he isn’t able to falsify the mounting evidence that he is plain and simply – wrong. His reply also demonstrates this because he doesn’t even bother explaining WHY he though it was unbalanced.
The fact that such a slip comes out when he is trying to tear a strip out of someone else more than makes it justified…….And hillarious!