CRU’s Phil Jones plays Wheel of Fortune “Before and After”

I was looking through some CG2 emails today for something else, and I came across this one. Email #3538. It is funny. For those who don’t know what the “before and after” portion of the game is about, this Yahoo answers might be helpful.

Here’s the relevant portion of the email (bold mine):

—-Messaggio originale—-
Da: p.jones@xxxxxx.xxx
Data: 21.12.2007 13.25
A: <jacopo.pasotti@xxxxx.xx>
Oggetto: Re: AW: Re: PS AW: Fwd: Re: more questions

Jacopo,
I’m not going to comment on your text, because
your report is awful.  I thought you wanted a balanced
report. What you’ve written isn’t. You’ve not understood
any of what was said on the Real Climate Audit web site.

You have several words wrong and what you say doesn’t
make sense at times. But you don’t seem to want to
discuss proper climate science.

Phil

Heh. Proof positive McIntyre really got into Jones head.

Source here

Tom Nelson has a relevant email also:

Email 1342, June 2008, Phil Jones on his own keen mental powers: “I get people coming up to me now saying we met in 199? and have no recall of our meeting – sometime no recall of even going to the meeting where I was supposed to have met them!”

Email 1342

This is fine. I don’t remember talking to you at IUGG in Boulder ! I am approachable though and have talked to lots of people. I get people coming up to me now saying we met in 199? and have no recall of our meeting – sometime no recall of even going to the meeting where I was supposed to have met them!

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30 Responses to CRU’s Phil Jones plays Wheel of Fortune “Before and After”

  1. Keith Grubb says:

    I knew the guy had halfheimers, email 1342 just confirms it. Maybe he’s past half.

  2. David, UK says:

    Haha! I love those Freudian slips; that’s how you really know what’s on a person’s mind.
    And it’s certainly reassuring to read that Phil Jones is an “approachable” chap. In his valued opinion, anyway.

  3. And our Phil is on a salary bracket of £54133 to £125000! You don’t get many of him to the pound.

    http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/71-of-cru-salaries-paid-by-grants/

  4. Robert of Ottawa says:

    What did jacobo write? I’d like to see that.

  5. AdderW says:

    Nice find, that brought a chuckle.

  6. Robert of Ottawa says:

    Oh, just got the joke. Still would like to know what Jacobo said :-) REAL CLIMATE AUDIT !!!!

  7. Well at least he’s honest about ‘something’!

  8. Adrian Smits says:

    Real Climate Audit! As he trying to correct some other putz! That is so rich!

  9. Ron Manley says:

    I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified. We all of us make stupid mistakes in emails (though I agree conflating the two blogs is quite funny) but in themselves they say nothing about our professional competence. By contrast, commenting on the email where he admitted he could not calculate a trend using Excel, which reflected on his professional competence, was valid.

  10. Anything is possible says:

    Hey! Leave Phil Jones alone, he is doing a wonderful job.

    Just been reading about it on the Watts up with Skeptical Science website.

  11. DonK31 says:

    Re 12:57:

    When you’re telling someone else that they don’t know what they’re talking about…it’s best to have all your eggs in a row.

  12. kcom says:

    Phil Jones is an ‘approachable’ chap. In his valued opinion, anyway.

    Apparently, he also gets to define “proper” climate science. I wonder who assigned him that responsibilty?

  13. Bill says:

    Looks like jacopo should not be publishing in English.

    It would be funny if Jones had said Real Climate Audit several times in his e-mails and if jacopo had gone to Climate Audit by accident at Jones suggestion. That might explain why Jones did not like what he was reading.

  14. Jeff Alberts says:

    David, UK says:
    February 5, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    And it’s certainly reassuring to read that Phil Jones is an “approachable” chap. In his valued opinion, anyway.

    Yeah, unless you’re a non-teammate and looking to replicate something he’s published. Then you’re just a contrarian trying to find something wrong…

  15. Steve from Rockwood says:

    DonK31 says:
    February 5, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Re 12:57:

    When you’re telling someone else that they don’t know what they’re talking about…it’s best to have all your eggs in a row.
    —————————————————–
    That would be ducks in a line.

  16. TerryS says:

    Re: Robert of Ottawa
    I think the article was published in Science 11 January 2008 Vol. 319 no. 5860 p. 144 but I can not be absolutely sure because it is pay walled.

  17. Graphite says:

    “You have several words wrong and what you say doesn’t
    make sense . . .”

    Sounds like a snippet from a conversation at a nursing home.

    For added bite, just throw in “sonny” or “missy” after “wrong”.

  18. CodeTech says:

    DonK31, I prefer to have all my ducks in one basket… but they always end up fighting. Noisy things.

    Real Climate Audit… how appropriate that the word is oxymoron.

  19. FergalR says:

    Give Jones a break, he’s jetting around the world to prove to politicians that only him and them should be jetting around the world.

  20. Monty Pyton knew about this long before you guys.. Refer to this documentary on Village Idiots. If you listen carefully you’ll hear that they do their degrees at UEA.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/05/phil-jones-plays-wheel-of-fortune-before-and-after/

  21. John F. Hultquist says:

    I’ve been busy reading over at the . . .

    Australian Bishop Carlin Climate Madness Blog

    and at the . . .

    Frakking Chiefio Digging Jennifer site

    ———————————-
    “what you say doesn’t make sense”

    Since when has climate science made sense?

  22. Brian H says:

    DonK31 says:
    February 5, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Re 12:57:

    When you’re telling someone else that they don’t know what they’re talking about…it’s best to have all your eggs in a row.

    Another corollary of Muphry’s Law! (‘Posts correcting grammar or spelling errors are likely to contain same.’)

  23. “It isn’t easy being green”
    -Kermit THE Frog

  24. Ron Manley said:
    February 5, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified.
    —————————————
    It is an exposure rather that an attack, and as such, quite justified.

    If you want to see attacks, look up any well-known Skeptic on sourcewatch.org or wiki

  25. David Davidovics says:

    Ron Manley said:
    February 5, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    I don’t think this type of ad hominem attack on Phil Jones is justified.
    —————————————
    Ron,

    Its not so much ad homenim as it is an insight into how this guy thinks. He’s mad as hell and like most of us, gets irrational when that happens. He’s mad, because he isn’t able to falsify the mounting evidence that he is plain and simply – wrong. His reply also demonstrates this because he doesn’t even bother explaining WHY he though it was unbalanced.

    The fact that such a slip comes out when he is trying to tear a strip out of someone else more than makes it justified…….And hillarious!

  26. dp says:

    This is one of those great trail head posts that leads to other interesting topics. In reading the post, I topic jogged to geomagnetic associations with weather and climate. There I was reminded of archeomagnetic jerks which immediately put me in mind of dendrochronology jerks in the news. That in turn made me think of the bristle cone pine that made history. It seems fitting that somebody somewhere should make a hockey stick from a bristle cone tree limb.

  27. hro001 says:

    And on a related note, pertaining to Jones and “peer-review” (as demonstrated by another E-mail from CG2) …

    There once was a scientist named Phil
    Whose opinions of skeptics were shrill
    To bring his cause to fruition
    He would use intuition
    And into data or code never drill.

    Phil Jones keeps peer review process humming … by using “intuition”

  28. Beth Cooper says:

    It seems we stood and talked like this before…
    We looked at each other in the same way then…
    But i can’t remember where, or when…

    The clothes you’re wearing are the clothes you wore…
    The smile you are smiling you were smiling then,
    But i can’t remember where, or when…

    Some things that happen
    For the first time,
    Seem to be happening again,

    And so it seems that we have met before
    And laughed before,
    And loved before…

    But whoooo knows…
    Where or when?

  29. astateofdenmark says:

    I think the email may have been referring to this article:
    http://www.jacopopasotti.com/Dati/sciencegeomagn.pdf

  30. G. Karst says:

    Beth Cooper says:
    February 6, 2012 at 7:55 am

    The clothes you’re wearing are the clothes you wore…

    Beth – It has been some years since Mann has wore clothes. He has been as naked as a jaybird, for many years now. People only perceive clothing that isn’t really there. GK

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