UPDATE: The error has now been completely eliminated from the article. Details below.
Guest post by James Padgett
As many readers are aware, the culture surrounding the climate change topic area of Wikipedia has been a microcosm of climate science for nearly a full decade.
This is not a compliment.
When you read the Climategate emails and see discussions of finding people to investigate and discredit your ideological opponents – that is Wikipedia. When you read about the IPCC’s usage of the WWF and students in composing their Climate Bible (KJV) – that is Wikipedia. When you read about “climate scientists” conspiring to get other scientists fired for challenging the orthodoxy – that is Wikipedia.
In short, Wikipedia does not care about truth, and certainly not doubts, it cares about message.
And that’s what this article is about, how the truth, when made plainly clear, is suppressed in favor of misinformation that is on message.
Early last month I was browsing the Wikipedia article on the Soon-Baliunas controversy. The “mainstream” view on the topic is that the paper was so horrible that several editors resigned from Climate Research in protest. Those following the Climategate emails know that there was a strong and shady behind-the-scenes effort to both discredit the paper and show journals what happens to their reputations and hairlines when you dare to publish research contradictory to the “settled science.”
Part of this public relations process, of which Wikipedia is an integral component, involves rewriting facts, refocusing views and never ever giving in to rationality or reality.
How was this done in the Soon-Baliunas article? I don’t have the time or inclination to point out all the bias and opinion-herding in the article, but I’ll show you the sentence that initially caught my eye back in early December:
“The Soon and Baliunas paper had been sent to four reviewers during publication, all of whom recommended rejecting it.” (1)
Now isn’t that interesting? Why would they publish the paper if all of the reviewers recommended rejecting it? It certainly would be quite the scandal if that villainous Chris de Freitas pushed to publish it under such conditions.
A little digging shows that Wikipedia used to have the correct sentence – that none of the reviewers recommended rejecting it. In fact, an anonymous user tried to revert the article back to this correct version. The response was typical – change it back and then have one of the administrator gatekeepers, “MastCell,” protect the article from anonymous users. After all, the only people who could ever be correct are the Champions of the Earth.
But that wasn’t the end of it. That wouldn’t be a good demonstration of the obstinacy of the keeper of climate truth.
The few non-anonymous users who cared about the article being accurate pointed this out. Pages and pages of argument resulted, with the typical gatekeepers like Dave Souza and Stephan Schulz relying on a single source to make their claim, while ignoring numerous other sources, not to mention common sense, which contradicted their assertion regarding the reviewers.
What was their source?
An article in the Guardian by Fred Pearce.
What sources contradicted this?
Chris de Freitas himself publically showed this email (also here from Climategate), which would support my view – and he privately made it crystal clear to me that everyone recommended publication.
Of course, de Freitas would be biased….
But Clare Goodess, of the ever-reputable University of East Anglia, an editor who resigned over the incident, ambiguously intoned in a manner subject to much interpretation:
“The publisher eventually asked to see the documentation associated with the review of the paper – which had apparently gone to four reviewers none of whom had recommended rejection. Otto Kinne concluded that the review process had been properly conducted.” (2)
So instead of relying on common sense, original documents, and the statement, at the time, of an involved scientist certainly not supportive of the Soon-Baliunas paper, weight was given to Fred Pearce’s article which was written seven years after the fact.
Naturally, I was curious as to where Mr. Pearce received his information. He was friendly and helpful, despite his busy schedule with the holidays and Durban, and attempted to find the original source for the claim in his article. Unfortunately, he could not find the original source in his records. He does agree that the statement was, in his words, “almost certainly wrong” and theorizes that he may have misread Clare Goodess’ statement on the matter.
So that should settle it right? This article itself could be a “reliable source” to remove the error from Wikipedia. After all, Real Climate is quoted extensively throughout the climate change articles. Perhaps, but not when you have obsessive-compulsive activists who care more about their cause than their integrity.
However, this incident does bring some other questions to mind.
Andrew Montford, author of the Hockey Stick Illusion, was inquiring with Pearce about his source as well and was curious if Michael Mann had been the one to mislead Pearce. This is an interesting theory, and I had been wondering if this was the case myself both due to Mann’s behavior regarding this incident, his well-known inclination towards manipulating journalists, as well as the original wording in Pearce’s article, which was:
“But many on the 10-man editorial board agreed with Mann. They concluded that their colleague de Freitas had ignored the anonymous advice of four reviewers to reject the paper.”
There is no way to know for certain; it certainly isn’t clear. All I know is that Mann and his friends, and this is the short list, when confronted with a paper that challenged their own work, threatened to boycott the journal, tried to get the editor fired, tried to get the authors fired, and was even so juvenile as to file a complaint against the New Zealand Herald for not letting him publish his attacks against de Freitas.
Obviously, he is the quintessential climate scientist of our day – and I hope one day that Wikipedia gives him due credit as such.
Cheers,
James Padgett
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UPDATE: Following a conversation on Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales’ talk page the error has been removed despite initial resistance from those who perpetrated the misinformation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Activism_at_Wikipedia.3F
Also, I’d like to thank Nona, who tried to correct the error earlier as an anonymous user.
WMC
“> Its a rule you… have in fact been found to have broken in the past and been admonished for”
No it isn’t. Diff, please, if you think otherwise.”
Billy it is well documented in your Wiki record that you Schulz and other members of the goof troop were found to have used Facebook for offsite coordination and were publicly admonished for it. So the question again is are you once again coordinating off-site with the rest of the goof troop in violation of Wikipedia rules: yes or no?
> used Facebook for offsite coordination and were publicly admonished for it.
No, it isn’t. You’re simply wrong. I hope that is a direct enough answer for you.
If you’ think you’re right, do please provide a quote not just your own fallible memory. If you simply waffle in reply, I’ll know that you don’t know.
Now that I think about it I believe the better question would be did you ever stop.
If you continue to give non answers to this question the more and more your non answers look like an admission of guilt.
Wikipedia should be “adjusted” to reflect all the vast uncertainties in the science that those scientists themselves have made abundantly clear in their emails. If wikipedia is concerned with accurate information that is.
Bill – sorry, I told you, misdirection does not work (I know that is a favorite tool of yours). You have been found guilty of willfully subverting the truth, promoting lies, and of censorship. Yet how do you respond? You claim “it was legal”. Not ethical, not correct, not even a mistake. just “it was legal”.
Sorry, each time you squirm, you merely prove my point. You are not worth researching because we know your contributions are lies, unethical, and wrong. We do not need to prove every lie. You have already proven a propensity for lying.
> willfully subverting the truth… etc etc etc
Still no diffs, eh? You’re just blowing smoke. Look, I’ll help you (and it might be of interest to other readers). The arbcomm judgement is here. Quote the bit that you think supports your words.
REPLY: William, upthread you admit most people are baffled by Wikipedia internal processes, and yet you expect them to enter that world and provide internal proof on your terms. The simple fact is you’ve been a bad boy on Wiki, and got tossed out because of it. If you don’t like the image you’ve made for it, work to change it instead of telling other people how wrong they are about it expecting them to provide “diffs” (whatever your definition of those is) when the majority have no idea how to do so.
Therefore, I find your demands disingenuous. As far as I’m concerned, “diffs” or not, your hijacking of Wikipedia climate content and the fallout/disbarment is public knowledge. I’m not interested in getting into a pointless exchange with you over it, I have better things to do with my time. As you point out, neither of us is likely to change our opinion of the other, so let’s not waste time trying. – Anthony
Bill – last post as this is fruitless. I WILL not allow you to misdirect my posts to a strawman you can then defeat. You have yet to address the issue that I raised – and I will not repeat it as it is becoming tiresome. You can continue to claim you are innocent of the crimes YOU DESCRIBE – however you have yet to offer even a scintilla of evidence that the charges against you are wrong.
William -as long as you’ll keep yourself within your Magical Circle of arbcomms and diffs and WPthis and WPthat, you’ll inhabit a strange universe, absolutely incapable of providing information to anybody apart from some creepy followers of yours. I can’t believe you dedicated so much time on Wikipedia for that purpose. Try at least to make an effort to join the real world, say, the one where “widely accepted” is taken by real people as “part of the consensus”.
WMC,
“No, it isn’t. You’re simply wrong. I hope that is a direct enough answer for you.
If you’ think you’re right, do please provide a quote not just your own fallible memory. If you simply waffle in reply, I’ll know that you don’t know.”
Once agian that is another non answer Billy. Are you still coordinating with the rest of the goof troop off-sight yes or no?
More and more you non answers look to be admissions of your own guilt. You were so quick to deny any use of socks but as to this question you have over and over again refused to give an answer. I think we all understand by now what that means.
One point to remember is that despite Billy’s insistance that the actions of his goof troop on this issue was within the rules it was in fact not and Jimbo said as much in his talk page. While the information was verifiable the fact of the matter is that the said editorial was given undue weight in violation of Wiki’s rules. It was one third party editorial that was given weight over numerous primary sources that said the exact oposite. Billy’s goof troop was in clear violation of Wiki’s rules.
Last night on Leno’s monologue:
“Congratulations to Wikipedia – 11 years old today. However, we can’t be sure – we read it on Wikipedia!”
Mainstream USA no longer sees Wikipedia as reliable. Chicken little, the boy that cried wolf, and Connolley.
Wikipedia should simply eliminate the “Read” tab. If you want to learn the truth about a subject, go to the “View History” tab.
The “View History” tab has the advantage of being “insert only”. As such, it is a great mechanism for collecting information. Modern data warehouse systems use exactly the same approach.
By looking at the history of what people are trying to hide, you learn much more about the subject under study than by looking at a snapshot in time.
The weakness of WP is that it acts like a library, but allows authors to destroy books by other authors.
Encouraging to see William M. Connolley stick his head above the parapet to fire a few rounds into the hoi polloi arrayed below; but if misdirection and a surfeit of weasel words are all he has in his arsenal I’m not sure why he bothered.
No, I’m not sure why I bothered, either. I was hoping you lot might learn something about wikipedia – might even be interested in how this thing, which you know nothing about, works. But I was wrong.
You’re good at flinging mud but poor on substance. There are a whole list of unsubstantiated allegations that I’ve challenged you to back up with quotes, and you’ve failed every single time. Here is one, just for your reference:
> used Facebook for offsite coordination and were publicly admonished for it.
Got a quote? Or a diff? Do you even know what a diff is? Maybe TGL can help you out.
REPLY: William, here’s a reason to bother. If you’d care to expound on and to direct readers to the best place to learn about Wikipedia, and how to contribute, I’ll happily offer you a guest post slot to do so. – Anthony
I missed some of the replies, and some of the in-lines. My apologies. Also I fouled up one of my links, which doesn’t help.
AW> your hijacking of Wikipedia climate content and the fallout/disbarment is public knowledge
No: if by public knowledge you mean “accurate” knowledge. The judgement is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCC and you’re welcome to read it. Hijacking climate content does not form part of the judgement; you have, I fear, been believing Lawrence Solomon’s fairy stories. I wrote about it, briefly, here.
Many of the claims made by your posters are, similarly, wrong. For example, the facebook thing (feel free to search for the word on the arbcomm page). And yet, when challenged on it, there seems to be no requirement for them to produce any evidence. Is that OK by you? They can just fling accusations, with no basis at all?
> If you’d care to expound on and to direct readers to the best place to learn about Wikipedia
Thanks for the offer. But I have my own blog; your readers are welcome to visit if they want to know more. My most recent post might be a suitable place for questions.
If you think climate is chaotic, please explain the seasons.