I’ve received this email from Roger Tattersall’s attorney (known as a solicitor in England) with the request that I post it. I’m happy to do so. Please see in the letter where the legal fund is being setup. – Anthony
To:
All those who feel offended and/or threatened by the actions taken against innocent climate enthusiast Roger Tattersall aka ‘Tallbloke’ as a result of the unsought anonymous drop of data from the person or persons known as ‘FOIA’.
That data is clearly in the public interest by virtue of having relevance to the wisdom of certain global policy decisions relating to energy use, energy supply and possibly global rationing of energy sources and the direct or indirect taxation of every individual on the planet for the foreseeable future.
Roger has been publicly libelled and abused across the world to the detriment of his reputation and has suffered distress, inconvenience and damage to property. The worst such offender appears to have been a contributor at ‘Scienceblogs’.
His privacy has been invaded and he and his family have been intimidated.
It is possible that treatment of that nature could be meted out to any persons expressing sceptical views about the so called climate consensus.
A clear signal needs to be sent out that such treatment is an abuse of process and a negation of free speech and democratic freedoms.
It is proposed to investigate all options open to Roger for the obtaining of suitable redress within the law. In the event that legal actions are considered appropriate it will be necessary to appoint suitably experienced Counsel to represent his interests and in this matter Roger’s interests coincide with those of all of who find themselves unable to feebly acquiesce in the pressure that is being applied to prevent them from exercising their hard won freedoms.
To that end, an appeal fund is being launched in order to finance the necessary steps. Contributions can be made via Roger’s Paypal account as displayed on his site (http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/) and all funds received for that purpose are to be transferred to the Client Account of his solicitors Wilde & Company.
Any funds not eventually used for necessary legal expenses will be donated to a selection of climate sceptic organisations. Accounting procedures will be put in place in compliance with the requirements of the UK regulatory system governing the proper use of Client monies held by UK solicitors.
Stephen P R Wilde. LLB (Hons.), Solicitor.
Wilde & Co. Cheshire England
So………… we have heard about an additional set of unreleased emails that have been encrypted and stored for possible future release.
Is this raid on Tallbloke and notice sent to others pending investigation of their activities and sites, a shot across the bows of climate realists as a warning not to get involved in the future reveal of the stored data?
What maybe so incriminating in that stored data which could possibly cause a large embarrassment or worse to those involved.
Already we are starting to be aware of ALLEGED possible collusion between state authorities and the “Team”.
I.M.H.O. Climate Realist is a term we should be using
To Latimer Alder:
Greg Laden clearly does not know the meaning of the words “goods” nor “stolen.”
After becoming aware that Greg Laden made a scurrilous libel against poor Mr Tattersall, Greg Laden has then repeated the offence – taking himself into the realms of malice and harrassment. Further, he has confessed his crime by saying “Harassment [and threats of physical violence] are not OK.”
Latimer
I don’t think I’ve ever read Greg’s blog before. Polemic and vituperative in tone, ultimately its very sad that someone who appears to be able to string two words together should want to resport to this sort of level.
tonyb
Well, I’ve sent my contribution. I hope you all do too.
Amazing generosity from Mr McIntyre. But then he’s got all that ‘Big Oil’ funding, right?
Good on ya Rog.
daveburton says: December 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm … …
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I hope people have screenshots. Here is prime evidence of intent to slander.
I have donated but requested that any action be proportionate. I would actually prefer that the fund merely restored Tallbloke to his previous position and compensated him for the inconvenience he has suffered on our behalfs.. I am not sure taking a libel action out against people like Greg “Band of Thieves” Laden is a worthwhile proposition even if it is a slam-dunk.
DonB (at 5:27 pm above)
You may want to look into the applicability of the Federal RICO Act or maybe
the little RICO Acts of the various individual States from which the funding
request with the “fraudulent” representations were made.
You, as a Federal taxpayer have an legal interest in your tax money going to a
fraudulent plan or activity that impinges on interstate commerce. The folks
who have been found to have conspired, or assented in conspiring to commit
such fraud have liabilities under the RICO laws too.
Sorry, I can’t give you much specific RICO information that would cover
someone from Pennsylvania who might live, write, research, or teach for
a public or private employer who then makes grant requests for Federal or other
forms of grant support funding that might be considered to have been obtained
in a fraudulent manner.
Normally a fraudulent enterprise [or “Cause”], even if it’s only get so far as a
conspiracy to commit it, is rarely complicated by one of the conspirators who
then go on to participate in providing grounds for a libel case that’s international
in nature.
The conspirators, crooks and gangsters normally caught in RICO Act violations
are usually not that stupid.
Thanks to all for the support received so far which is truly inspiring.
Please keep it up, this will be a long haul.
I will provide an update as to progress and strategy after I have spoken to Roger later today.
Agreed that we are Climate Realists rather than Climate Sceptics and I will endeavour to use that term.
As it happens I was involved in the creation (on a purely voluntary and personal basis) of the previous ClimateSceptics site which was renamed ClimateRealists.com some years ago.
See here:
http://climaterealists.com/index.php
Therefore we have a prior claim to the term well before others sought to hijack it with the more recent recent ‘Climate Reality’ effort.
It is odd that since the term was taken up by AGW proponents the original ClimateRealists site seems to have been experiencing unfavourable treatment by the Google search system.
Please note that I have no interest in the wider political implications of all this. That is a matter for others. My concerns are twofold:
i) To ascertain the true mechanisms of climate change and to place the role of human CO2 emissions in a more proportionate and realistic context.
ii) To protect the civil rights of Roger in particular but also others who migfht find that they have in the past or do in the future suffer damage or loss simply as a consequence of standing up for and applying that which was once at the heart of human progress namely the scientific method.
What muppets Like Lazy teenager and this Vitriolic bile fueled Laden dont realise, is that Tallbloke is better known to many in the UK not for his Climate Position but for his Charitable work, he pretty much singlehandedly saved the Yorkshire Air Ambulance Service for the community, driving a campaign to that raised £250,000 in donations for its operations. He is Also respected on Car forums for getting Donations for For people injured in Automotive accidents, I dont doubt there is much more.
If one of the most caring, charitable, upstanding members of a community can be villified and attacked in this manner , then that speaks volumes about the state of this debate.
To those that have libelled him ” Good luck you might as well have called Mother Theresa a Hooker”
Tall bloke I hope you utterly destroy these meally mouthed cretins, I will make regular donations As I firmly believe you deserve no less and so do we.
Time to take out the trash!
Donation sent, keep up the fight Rog.
Cheers
Norman
quote unquote.
This amounts to a declaration of guilt. The fact that it has changed indicates he must have known it was libelous.
My quote disappeared ..
here it is:
The original opening sentence is quoted here:
“Thieves who broke into Unviersity of East Anglia computers in 2009, stealing thousands of private emails thus compromising years of expensive scientific research and causing a fabricated and unnecessary political doo-doo storm, as part of a much larger campaign of harassment, have had some of their computer equipment seized by UK authorities…”
The revised wording is:
“Thieves who broke into Unviersity of East Anglia computers in 2009, stealing thousands of private emails thus compromising years of expensive scientific research and causing a fabricated and unnecessary political doo-doo storm, as part of a much larger campaign of harassment, are being pursued by the authorities, through the seizure of computer equipment that appears to be linked to the storage and dissemination of the stolen documents, and which has been seized under search warrant.”
daveburton says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm
If you have the proof and the inclination, I would be tempted to have a go at Laden too! I’d at least ask for a public apology first – the guy needs to learn some humility – but if he doesn’t come clean, he needs to be exposed for the charlatan he is. He craps on about protecting the world for his kids, maybe the threat of being completely skint and denegrated through the legal system may make him reappraise his attitude.
Anent the tortfeasant (and arguably libelous) conduct of Greg Laden, at 2:31 AM on 18 December, Kev-in-UKI’d at least ask for a public apology first – the guy needs to learn some humility – but if he doesn’t come clean, he needs to be exposed for the charlatan he is.
Not one little bit. Let Laden try to apologize to the process servers.
Unleash the lawyers! Let the feeding frenzy begin!
Roger, glad to dip my hand in my pocket to help. Alas not a rich man but it all helps.
Like the term ‘climate realist’, will use it from now on.
It is a pleasure to read of so much support from all over the place to those standing up for the ordinary of the world. Very impressive. May I wish everyone a happy Christmas and a better New Year than the economic pundits are predicting.
I sent my donation too but my eyes are hanging out now, reading all the interesting comments, and leaving a few as well.
I shall have to go and rest up in a darkened room, happy in the knowledge that there are so many wonderful folk out there rallying to the call of justice.
Good luck Roger.
Donation made. I find these events very frightening – I thought we lived in lands of the free (UK and US) – or is it really like ‘comment is free’, Guardian style, where the only comments allowed are the ones agreeing with the party line!
All the best Tallbloke – I have put a small sum into the fighting fund.
I translated this article into French and I have posted on the French blog of Skyfall:
http://www.skyfall.fr/?p=763#comment-74614
It was also reported on the blog “Réchauffement Médiatique” of Yves Pelletier.
http://www.rechauffementmediatique.org/wordpress/2011/12/15/lempire-contre-attaque/comment-page-1/#comment-49879
Best regards
Cdt e.r. J.Cl Michel (Belgium)
Another tanner in the pot.
Hope for the best.
Vuk.
Denieralati ?
I think we are what some of the older Russians may have romantically called the ‘intellligensia’. Reading on Ladens website, he thinks all ‘deniers’ (интеллиге́нция) are criminals – without trial, evidence, etc. Just like good old days in the CCCP.
Go get him Tallbloke !!
“Comment 32
It is interesting to watch the thieves and liars and their allies and compatriots in the process of melting down. As it were.”
Posted by: Greg Laden | December 15, 2011 6:27 PM
Seems to compound the original sin!
Surely ScienceBlogs.com is as culpable as Laden, they provided the platform, they/editor should have rectified or forced Laden to rectify the article immediately, but they seemed inconsiderate to the harm it was doinf to Tattersall. It could be argued that they were party to encouraging the behavior that laden exhibited.
Remember the exodus of bloggers jumping ship. Meltdown at Scienceblogs.com – bloggers jumping ship http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/23/meltdown-at-scienceblogs-com-bloggers-jumping-ship/
It’s not surprising really that a blogger their went rogue.
Donation made. I hope this helps to expose the machinations of the green tyranny.
Hundreds of donations small and large have been pouring into our fighting fund overnight. I am humbled and grateful for all the help the community is giving to me.
I just want to reiterate Stephen Wilde’s statement and solemnly promise that all these donations will be transferred to my solicitor-attorney’s client account to be used to cover legal fees and related expenses such as travel to offices if necessary. Stephen is kindly providing legal advice to me pro bono, but where he has to get work done by other people in his firm and outside law firms such as libel lawyers fees will be paid.
We are already well on the way to being able to cover the costs of initiating the actions Stephen has outlined above. I am keeping the appeal open because ongoing costs add up quickly in the realm of legal actions. As Stephen has already said, any monies left over will go to a selection of organisations which work on behalf of the climate realist community.
Thank you all again. It has been exhausting but today the sun is shining and I’m going to take my lady for a walk over the hills to a nice country pub for a well deserved lunch. She has been through the wringer over this and I want to show her how much I love her.
At3:45 AM on 18 December, tallbloke writes a nice thank-you note and advises that funds are reaching the point at which proceedings can go forward in the U.K.
Again, I admonish him to take up action in these United States. There are hungry members of the Plaintiff’s Bar here who will listen readily to the magic words “contingency basis,” and will charge you precisely nothing to look into your case against the well-paid, real-estate-owning, pension-vested Dr. Michael E. Mann.
As for Mr. Laden…. There’s that line of Richard Pryor’s, in his stand-up while talking about his divorce, when the judge looked at him and said:
Stephen Wilde: “My concerns are twofold: i) To ascertain the true mechanisms of climate change and to place the role of human CO2 emissions in a more proportionate and realistic context, ii) To protect the civil rights of Roger in particular but also others who migfht find that they have in the past or do in the future suffer damage or loss simply as a consequence of standing up for and applying that which was once at the heart of human progress namely the scientific method.”
Does this not conflate two different issues, one scientific and one legal? They are both worthy, but could presumably tangle up a court case and just end up with massive legal expenses. I would have thaought it far better to stick to the legal case, even though I would love to see a forensic examination of the science.