From Bishop Hill, such a short story that it is difficult to excerpt, and given the importance, and the continuation reference to the story I broke on WUWT, I don’t think he’ll mind if I repost in entirety.
He writes:
Richard Tol reports from the IPCC WGII lead author meeting in San Francisco:
…the IPCC member states have ruled on freedom of information legislation. Specifically, it has been decided that FoI does not apply to IPCC material. This is false. FoI is national legislation. These laws can only be interpreted by the relevant courts. These laws can only be changed by the relevant parliaments. The civil servants that speak on behalf of their countries have no right to usurp FoI legislation, and the IPCC has no say in this matter.
This of course is a continuation of this story.
George Monbiot was winning considerable plaudits on the Dark Matter thread for his strong stand on freedom of information. He is also, of course, a fan of the IPCC. It would be interesting to see what he makes of this.
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Anyone shocked at all by this?
Time to do a IPCC FOIA request I think …
This is what happens when you know you’re losing the game – take your ball and go home to sulk.
This should not be hard to understand. State law rules local law. Federal law rules state law. And the UN rules them all.
Anyone suprised?
Not shocked as the IPCC have proved they are a bunch of incompetents.
It really is time for the IPCC to disband and let ignominy take its course!
I shall declair : I shall not pay taxes ever again…….why not???
Anyone, anyone?
Wow.
IPCC members declare themselves above the law.
We should anticipate that those who consider themselves above the law, will also consider themselves above morality. We should expect that they will lie, cheat, and steal when it serves their purpose to do so.
Zero credibility should be assigned to anything produced by IPCC members.
Raymond Chandler wrote in `The Long Goodbye`: “There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself”! Surely this must now be the epitaph for the IPCC?
This is the beginning of the end for the IPCC. What nation will give them money when there is no accountability. Time to send some letteres to my Federal Representatives.
Mark Nutley says: December 14, 2011 at 12:20 pm
It’s important to keep in mind that Dr. Tol did not give a lot of detail on this and Steve McIntyre has asked for a clarification – it’s early yet, but Dr. Tol hasn’t responded. It will be interesting to see the basis for the statement… the devil is, after all, in the details.
Nope. I hope this is the last place of retreat for the “I don’t want to reveal my data” types.
The following video seems to fit the IPCC:
;-))
FOIA exemption? Bah, these creeps and thugs are just gearing up.
How can any organisation declare itself to be above the law? No person or organisation can turn round and say, “Sorry, but that might apply to you but it does not apply to me.”
It is farcical the lengths to which the IPCC is now going to try and conceal the coagulation of festering corruption which it harbours within itself.
Not shocked at all.
They hid the decline. They suppressed real science. They make “laws” without representation. They think they can tax or punish without being elected. They think themselves above the rest of us.
“No taxation without representation”
Canada has shown the way.
It is time for some other countries to show some b@lls, and follow the example shown by Canada. (Usa, Brazil, China, India and Russia declined first time around without signing up, so they obviously cannot opt out…)
If you read only this part of the quote, what is the meaning ? :
“Specifically, it has been decided that FoI does not apply to IPCC material. This is false.”
Careful.
End the UN, then the Fed.
This position by the IPCC and the UN generally, has some frightening implications for other UN objectives and plans, such as the entire Agenda 21 program, and various international regulatory and treaty proposals. This is very dangerous, if it stands!
They are our secrets….and you can’t have them
Freedom from Accountability Act
Well, the IPCC, strictly speaking, is not a government so they would be exempt from FOIA requirements. I believe FOIA only covers government, doesn’t it? I mean, I can’t just go to Coca-Cola and ask for the secret formula with an FOIA request. I can’t even ask for their salary database.
IPCC isn’t a government organization. The UN is not a government, it is a diplomatic body. The UN has no force of law except that granted it by the sovereign member states (in other words, treaties ratified). The UN has no more authority than Occupy Wall Street has.
How about imposing sanctions on the UN until they cave. And give their people parking fines in NYC from now on.
Hell, if I ran a great money making Ponzi scheme like the IPCC I’d declare myself exempt from freedom of Information Laws as well.