More at BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16151310
UPI says:
The cost of meeting Canada’s obligations under Kyoto would be $13.6 billion, Kent said.
“That’s $1,600 from every Canadian family — that’s the Kyoto cost to Canadians, that was the legacy of an incompetent liberal government,” the Conservative minister said.
At the Toronto Sun:
Over the weekend, the 195 members of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change finished a record-breaking, marathon session two days behind schedule in Durban, and charted a course toward a new regime to be finalized by 2015 in an effort to stave off dangerous human interference with the atmosphere.
The framework agreement salvaged the Kyoto Protocol, but it became clear that it would not include Canada’s participation.
Before he returned to Canada, Kent told reporters that the government was justified in its action.
“We want to avoid another Kyoto-like pact at all costs,” said Kent at the summit in South Africa. “Kyoto was not effective and was not good for Canada. The previous government should not have ratified it.”
I remeber when the liberal government pushed that into law and I was so ticked off….thinking that if Harper could get a majority he would turf it and thankfully both have come to pass….
Dear Wallace,
Speaking of sand, we have figured out how to make tons of MONEY from oil sands put here in Fort McMurray by NATURE HERSELF. “Mother Earth” so to speak has been very kind to us and we’ll happily mine black gold for 250 years yet to come. Money that the UN and the AGW will NEVER get their grubby paws on thanks to Harper and Minister Kent.
However, we are also a very kind nation as is the United States of America. No two nations on earth do more FOR humanity that us. Not you leftists, NOT the UN, NOT the EU, NOT the Arabs, NOT the Chinese, NOT the Russians, NOT the third world.
Canada and the United States DO! And I’m damn tired of people like YOU who don’t have enough common sense to know better.
As a resident of the USA who lives very close to our Canadian friends (I can occasionally see the lights from Cobourg Ontario across our shared Lake Ontario) I say GOOD FOR YOU………….
I am of course reminded of the sacrifices by our neighbor during WWI, WWII, and Korea, thanks again for your assistance, every bit helped.
Can anybody find the text of a famous radio broadcast from a Canadian (The Gentleman’s name escapes me at this time) referring to “Who will help the USA after all they gave to help the world”, this radio broadcast (from approximately the mid 1970’s) talked about how nobody would loan us a “worn out caboose”, this was at the time that our once great railroad industry in the Northeastern USA had collapsed (i.e. the Penn Central debacle).
I would be very GRATEFUL if anybody can produce a link to or text of this broadcast.
I am ashamed as an American that we let this whole AGW SCAM get this far, I am thankful that our neighbor has come to their senses. Hopefully, the Shining City on the Hill will WAKE UP next.
An International “Climate Court”, are you @ur momisugly!@ur momisugly#%^ KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers, Kevin.
Congratulations Canada on showing some sensible independent thinking. What a pity David Cameron did not show the same “Bulldog Spirit” he did in Brussels when he opted out of the Euro Zone Treaty propping up the financial viability of the Euro by doing the same thing in Durban with the IPCC global warming scam.
Terry McCrann I believe has summed up the Australian position perfectly:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/terry-mccranns-column/the-great-climate-change-gravy-train-rolls-on/story-e6frfig6-1226220297162
“Combet and Gillard can’t have it both ways. Either we have signed on in Durban to a massive increase in our carbon tax and the virtual and very quick elimination of our cheap coal-fired power stations.
Or the whole thing is a disgraceful and very expensive charade. There won’t be any real deal in 2015 and we will be left with a useless but punitive tax.”
I can only hope that the action of Canada will be the first domino to fall in the whole IPCC façade. But I am confident that in 2015 in this country we will not have a punitive tax but a different government like Canada that does not put the cart before the horse and that realises that to take care of the environment and decrease poverty you must first have a viable economy.
JDSmith – Toronto says:
December 12, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Can someone please tell me what Canadians will pay to get out of Kyoto??>>>
Sure. The price is 0.00 to get out.
The price to stay in is $14,000,000,000.00
Get it? Get out for nothing or stay in for $14 Billion. Of course, that’s just the price for ONE MORE YEAR. If we extended it like the UN is asking everyone to, that would be $14 Billion/year and CLIMBING.
Hi DavidM,
Then who is funding IPCC next year… is Canada on the hook in some other category?
I recall from the IPCC Final Report that there was some ongoing payment so as to get IPCC to 2015 and then to 2020.
Great day here in the Great White North. ☺☺
PLEASE … all Canucks on board here … PLEASE drop a short note to Mr. Kent and say thank you. Say anything you want…just let him know you are good with the decision. He and Stevie Wonder will be getting some heat from the green weenies. Send a copy to your MP as well.
Email Minister@ec.gc.ca and kentp@parl.gc.ca
And PM Stevie Wonder as well. pm@Peter Mullans.gc.ca
Send a copy to Elizabeth “The Beaver” May as well. Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca.
“The Beav” is fairly hostile. She’ll be wanting to gnaw on a tree. Poor Beav. ☺☺
Copy to Bob Rae … bob.rae@parl.gc.ca
Copy to the “leader” of the NDP as well…okay, so “leader” is a stretch.
Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca
Clive
For KevinK.
I believe it’s Gordon Sinclair you’re looking for.
http://www.america.ameryka.org/sinclair.html
Also check YouTube/
KevinK;
You’re looking for a piece by Gordon Sinclair called “The Americans”.
Full text here:
http://www.broadcasting-history.ca/index3.html?url=http%3A//www.broadcasting-history.ca/news/unique/am_text.html
Itz from 1973. After 911, his son ran it again, and an amazing number of people thought it had just been written, they didn’t get that it was about 30 years old already. Strangely, just as relevent todayt as then IMHO.
Wallace, you’d do well to have a read.
Another arrow in the elephant. Someone should add them up at year-end.
Here is the text for “The Americans” by Gordon Sinclair in 1973.
Wallace, this is for you:
Topic: “The Americans”
The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the world.
As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze. Well, Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did, that’s who.
They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. And I was there. I saw that.
When distant cities are hit by earthquake, it is the United States that hurries into help… Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.
The Marshall Plan… the Truman Policy… all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. And now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.
Now, I’d like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.
Come on… let’s hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 10? If so, why don’t they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or a woman on the moon?
You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times … and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are right here on our streets in Toronto, most of them… unless they are breaking Canadian laws… are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.
When the Americans get out of this bind… as they will… who could blame them if they said ‘the hell with the rest of the world’. Let someone else buy the bonds, let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won’t shake apart in earthquakes.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both of them are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.
Can you name to me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don’t think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their noses at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.
I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.
This year’s disasters… with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody… but nobody… has helped.
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KevinK says: Can anybody find the text of a famous radio broadcast from a Canadian (The Gentleman’s name escapes me at this time)
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His name was Gordon Sinclair. You can find his broadcast here – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwv-dndrMDE
Canadia is racist!!
This is good news. Our cousin Cindy didn’t land any gold at the last Olympics but at least the canadians didn’t toss away 13 billion in gold on this stunt.
Does the US have to have Congress pass on this treaty? If we do pass it, we can give them Detroit, the Peoples Republic of Berkeley and Chicago for collateral.
KevinK:
I believe it was the late Gordon Sinclair in 1973:
…and for those who read “The Americans” by Gordon Sinclair, 1973, in addition to telling “Wallace” exactly what he needs to hear, I note that there’s a couple of interesting historical climate references in that speech.
1973.
Year half over.
59 communities flattened by tornadoes
bottom land of the Mississipi under water
1973 was the beginning of “an ice age is coming” mythology. It was cold, freakin’ cold, I recall those winters and I do NOT want to see them again. When was the last time anyone recalls 59 American communities flattened by tornadoes? Warming = Extreme weather my *ss.
JDSmith – Toronto says:
December 12, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Hi DavidM,
Then who is funding IPCC next year… is Canada on the hook in some other category?
I recall from the IPCC Final Report that there was some ongoing payment so as to get IPCC to 2015 and then to 2020>>>
I don’t know the gory details but I suspect you’ve got two different mechanisms over lapped. The UN is funded by the member countries. As a member, Canada has annual dues directly to the UN. The UN in turn funds various committees, one of which is the IPCC.
So… the $14 Billion would be fines for staying in Kyoto and not cutting emissions as per the agreement.
I think the “fund” you are talking about is probably the $100 Billion fund that the IPCC wants countries to voluntarily pay into for climate mitigation projects in 3rd world countries. Basically, what Canada (and everyone else) signed in Durban was a document agreeing to think about maybe doing it eventually sometime down the road after we think about it some more…and if we have the cash by that time….and even then, only maybe….
Surely this has to be the first move other leaders have been waiting for.
Australia was the last (stupid) one to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, although many of the stupid regulations pertaining to it were passed anyway (e.g. locking up farmland).
A conservative government in Australia could mean dumping of the carbon tax and dumping of Kyoto. Now that would be something worth hoping for. If Canada can… I can only imagine how many mining companies just opened up a ‘where can we invest in Canada’ document.
Hi DavidM,
Understood thanks… there is a bit more here:
URL = http://www.grist.org/list/2011-12-12-what-exactly-happened-at-durban
Many would answer a Beaver… but it is:
Winnie the Poo – of course! GK
Clive says:
December 12, 2011 at 8:15 pm
“Send a copy to Elizabeth “The Beaver” May as well. Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca.”
Clive. While the teeth and fat head are similar, I strongly disagree with your labeling of May as a beaver. Beavers are industrious, intelligent and quite remarkable rodents as well as an admired symbol of Canada.
May is obviously a woodchuck.
saltspringson says: December 12, 2011 at 4:54 pm
“Canucks are catching on to this game…what are the rest of you waiting for?
In the case of the US two things: (1) the ouster of the current whitehouse occupant, and (2) a conservative takeover of the senate.
Go Canada!
JDSmith;
Check out the thread by Lord Monckton just a few back. The article was written in the midst of the meeting, so much of the draft language changed, but read through the comments, and you’ll get a very good perspective on just how insane it would be to actually do what they are talking about doing. Thank the deity of your choice we got out.
The land of hockey sticks have declared a national Poutine Day in honour of this.
Thanks to all who responded to my question about Mr. Gordon Sinclair, I should have been more attentive and known the answer myself.
GOOD ON YOU ALL FOR SENDING THE KYOTO PROTOCOL INTO THE CRAPPER WHERE IT RIGHTLY BELONGS…………….
Cheers, Kevin.
After twenty-five years studying climate science and fighting global warming nonsense, it’s time for a glass of wine.
Let’s see – a fine Sauvignon Blanc, a Marlborough from New Zealand.
Cloudy Bay perhaps? No, Kim Crawford !
Sip. Aah!
It’s a beauty!