Kyoto – in the past for Canada

More at BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16151310

UPI says:

The cost of meeting Canada’s obligations under Kyoto would be $13.6 billion, Kent said.

“That’s $1,600 from every Canadian family — that’s the Kyoto cost to Canadians, that was the legacy of an incompetent liberal government,” the Conservative minister said.

At the Toronto Sun:

Over the weekend, the 195 members of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change finished a record-breaking, marathon session two days behind schedule in Durban, and charted a course toward a new regime to be finalized by 2015 in an effort to stave off dangerous human interference with the atmosphere.

The framework agreement salvaged the Kyoto Protocol, but it became clear that it would not include Canada’s participation.

Before he returned to Canada, Kent told reporters that the government was justified in its action.

“We want to avoid another Kyoto-like pact at all costs,” said Kent at the summit in South Africa. “Kyoto was not effective and was not good for Canada. The previous government should not have ratified it.”

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Ron
December 14, 2011 4:16 am

Four years old, nevertheless a timeless window into the blustery defensiveness of the CAGW lobby in Canada. Talk over and talk louder, pull out ad homs, heap scorn, repeat fallacies – essentially try to bully your way through.

DaveF
December 14, 2011 4:19 am

G Karst 3:28
Yes, the bear in London Zoo was Canadian, but not the toy bear named after him. Sorry, Dave.

December 14, 2011 5:43 pm

At 4:16 AM on 14 December, Ron had posted access to a radio interview conducted of David Suzuki, saying:

Four years old, nevertheless a timeless window into the blustery defensiveness of the CAGW lobby in Canada. Talk over and talk louder, pull out ad homs, heap scorn, repeat fallacies – essentially try to bully your way through.

Damn. A little Wayback Machine insight into the unarguable arrogant bastardliness of los warmistas prior to the Climategate pantsing.
I confess to never having paid much attention to this overstuffed codpiece of a Suzuki, but I can see why Canadians look upon him with so much contempt, and how well justified is that scorn.

Paul Vaughan
December 15, 2011 4:32 am

A former Canadian prime minister’s son is a current member of Canadian parliament. He lost his cool with the current Canadian environment minister:
Trudeau calls Kent a ‘piece of sh**’ in House of Commons
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20111214/trudeau-justin-house-of-commons-insult-111214/

Mardler
December 15, 2011 7:25 am

Well done, Canada! I hope you see this through but I have serious doubts.
To appreciate the background to the green (watermelon) movement and the sinister portents read this:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Watermelons-Green-Movements-Colors-ebook/dp/B005BE0S02/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1323962170&sr=1-1 . Kindle only at the moment, I think, though there’s book due in Feb 2012 which may be the same thing.
Another tome I have just read is about the cost of the UK’s membership of the EU. All data is taken from UK gov info. Two standout points (1) it costs £11 to gain £10 profit on exports to the EU and (2) the cost of green/CO2 projects (funded by taxation) is = the current eurozone deficit thus it might easily be argued that green “economics” caused the euro crisis.
Usually hopelessly optimistic, on our fight against AGW alarmism I am totally pessimistic: we aren’t within a light year of making real change and the greens/lefties etc are winning all the way. It’s very depressing.

Mardler
December 15, 2011 8:56 am

WW on December 12, 2011 at 11:26 pm
“The germans offered a surrender”
“The USA would not accept GERMANY’S surrender as the WAR t’was
bringing employment / as lifting the USA out of a deep depression a
period that having been time of great poverty for the USA it’s people.”
“The war could have ended two years earlier / in saving millions of lives
yet the USA refused such / as it t’was not to their pleasing their benefit.”
Oh dear! If these lies are the sum total of WW’s “knowledge” then we are all wasting our time in responding to him.

william wallace
December 15, 2011 2:15 pm

Tucci78 & Mardler / May I remind you the tobacco companies having
killed far more americans than wars. With their $billions of profits they
fund the political parties thus political parties but turning an blind eye
to a ongoing horror. The ongoing suffering /the tears / the heartache
knows no bounds. Tobacco its added addictive chemicals /in realty be
the real weapons of mass destruction // not fantasy illusion / but reality.
ps / in regard to USA news channels / but republican brainwashing it’s
a very powerful wealthy 24 / 7 (ongoing) brainwashing propaganda spin.

December 15, 2011 7:44 pm

william wallace,
This is not about tobacco companies like Al Gore’s family owns. This is about Canada’s excellent repudiation of Kyoto 2.0. And people make their own decisions to start smoking. The warnings are on every pack of cigarettes. If they deliberately choose to ignore the warnings it is not anyone else’s fault. Understand? …Probably not.
And if you’re such a lunatic that you believe republicans run the mainstream media, then it is you who are brainwashed. The mainstream U.S. media ranges from center/Left to communist. The only exception is a.m. radio.

william wallace
December 16, 2011 3:42 am

SMOKEY / To just dismiss a gret injustice is to live up to your name
Smoke Gets In Your Eyes) Children smoke because they see adults
smoking. Adults smoke because they are addicted unto tobaccos…
highly addictive added chemicals // thus making it difficult break the
addiction / its not uncommon adults smoke in the company of children
even that of a newborn baby a act which lethal for child / where such
chemicals be overpowering causing breathing problems in cases death.

Mardler
December 16, 2011 5:52 am

Do not feed the troll.

william wallace
December 16, 2011 7:04 am

I hav’nt a clue what troll means.
At a guess I would say it be an
person whom sticks their head
in the sand /never facing reality.
However such is not my nature
my life’s been in helping others
dispite ( for a good deed one’s
often punished).There a saying
no good deed goes unpunished.

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