I guess nobody wanted to “properly debate” skeptics. They couldn’t even get David Appell?
From Oregon Live: The Oregon Museum of Science and Industry has pulled the plug on a presentation from three scientists critical of the theory of man-made global warming, saying the panel wasn’t balanced.
Oregon’s chapter of the American Meteorological Society had scheduled the scientists to speak Tuesday at OMSI, which has long provided free space to the group for meetings.
But Mark Patel, OMSI’s vice president of marketing, said the museum told organizers in early November that they needed a balanced panel and offered to move the meeting to its “science pub” event at the Bagdad Theater, picking up half the cost of the move. With no progress made, the museum cancelled the event last week.
“By the very fact that we’re holding it here, people are going to assume it’s OMSI’s point of view,” Patel said. “Our intention is far from trying to shut anybody up. We’re trying to encourage proper debate, and not allow OMSI to be used as a mouthpiece for one group or another.”
Steve Pierce, president of the Oregon chapter, emailed a response late Monday:
“The Oregon Chapter of the American Meteorological Society is disappointed that the November 29th meeting on global warming will not continue as originally planned. While we understand that OMSI has reservations related to our meeting’s topic on global warming, our chapter has not taken a stance on this issue.”
Full story here at Oregon Live
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Hmmm. I wonder. Since OMSI has a major weapon of war exhibit, this submarine right next to their logo…
…why don’t hey have a collection of Doves, or perhaps maybe a peace symbol painted on the building to “balance” the presentation? Otherwise visitors might think OMSI has a “point of view” that endorses war. Gosh, that would be terrible.
Readers in Portland, feel free to carry on that thought in letters to the editor there.
h/t to reader Jerry Keeny
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What do we do with weather sites that spread these universities lie, to the public,like accuweather,the w.c, wunderground etc.they have to know they look and sound like fools.
K
I don’t know why they want ‘balance.’ The major newspaper of the state the Oregonian rarely allows any comments opposing their religion. Thanks to the internet and sites like yours, and despite the almost total blackout on opposing views in the MSM, 69% of American public think that CAGW is pure sewage.
Gator 69 said: Gee I wonder how many of those ‘climate change’ newsletter articles, emails, and guest speakers were skeptical?
I’ll bet you none. Do you want to take me on?
I have to ‘apologize’ to the Oregonian saying that they don’t support differing opinions from their religion. They took OMSI to task today for cancelling the event. I hadn’t heard about the event before cancellation but now I think I will try to make it.
” I don’t know why they want ‘balance.’ The major newspaper of the state the Oregonian rarely allows any comments opposing their religion. Thanks to the internet and sites like yours, and despite the almost total blackout on opposing views in the MSM, 69% of American public think that CAGW is pure sewage.”
I live in this fine State of Oregon where differing views are actually quite welcome! But like any other State we have our politics. So please don’t bash us generally. It isn’t useful. Come visit and breathe some great fresh air!
OMSI is a great science museum where kids and adults can get a feel, first hand, the work and wonders of science. But this was a big mistake and will come back to haunt the museum.
BTW, the museum has struggled for years with funding and is NOT associated with any public University.
This may be another manifestation of Fear-Forced (Post-Normal) Science that maintains that the environmental consequences of a plausible scientific premise may be so dire that no skepticism can be allowed, and Science must speak with one voice to insure that the public accepts the great sacrifice necessary to avert this danger.
Here is an old example of this ‘logic’ in its most pure form.
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crosspatch says:
November 29, 2011 at 5:58 pm
I wonder how much those universities take in each year in moneys related to AGW and if maybe that could have some role in their position. They seem VERY touchy about the subject to the point of wanting to absolutely shut own any opposing point of view. They must believe that their position is very fragile and vulnerable.
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Thanks Kim your link leads to this from the Oregon Museum:
I think if I see the word “Sustainability” aka the UN’s agenda 21, one more time I will puke!
For those who doubt the connection to the United Nations or doubt how big the influence has grown…..
While we sit here trying to connect the dots, THEY (the UN) have already moved on to the consolidation of the territory they have conquered through the treasonous acts of our government representatives.
Heck I have a copy of the “Sustainability Plan” for my backwoods hick county written over five years ago. If you bother to go to your county planning office you will probably find one too. Now Colleges and Universities are including “sustainability” in their training of College students.
Student leaders called for a sustainability course requirement to be added to the university’s general education program at an SGA meeting last…. University of Maryland
Sustainability Becoming Required Course In MBA
“Leading business schools in Canada and around the world are adding sustainability to their required MBA curricula….According to a Bloomberg Businessweek article, sustainability is no longer seen as the province of fuzzy do-gooders. Managing for sustainability is becoming a new bottom line at MBA programs.” Carbon49 a blog on sustainability for Canadian businesses.
http://www.carbon49.com/2011/03/sustainability-becoming-required-course-in-mba/
If you really want to see what is happening there is “Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education. “ http://www.aashe.org/
They advocate things like
Mandatory Student Fees for Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency
This resource describes successful efforts to increase mandatory fees specifically to fund renewable energy and energy efficiency…. “
“Sustainability, has become as big a marketing tool as sex and the big dogs like the banks are not going to let “deniers” rock their boat.
RE: Gail Combs: (December 1, 2011 at 10:10 am)
REF:
The World Commission on Environment and Development defined sustainability as:
“…development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs”.
In regard to energy resources, I use the term sustainable or indefinitely sustainable to refer to an energy resource that can continuously sustain a limited human population. So far, energy from thorium is the only source of energy that I see having a real prospect of supporting our current population indefinitely. But, at least one writer has criticized the supporters and promoters of this energy resource as being equivalent to a ‘Cargo Cult.’
It is rather humorous, in a way, that ‘Peak Oil’ and ‘Global Warming’ tend to cancel each other out because the total carbon remaining to be economically extracted, by some estimates, is not enough to cause even one full doubling of the CO2 content in the atmosphere from 280 PPM.
Hey y’all, we have a non-update update from OMSI – they’re doubling down on their lies about how it happened that they didn’t allow the AMS lecture from skeptics:
http://5440fight.com/2011/12/03/omsi-global-warming-and-the-bunker-mentality-silence-in-the-face-of-public-criticism/
Gail Combs says:
December 1, 2011 at 10:10 am
[ ” Thanks Kim your link leads to this from the Oregon Museum: ” ]
You are very welcome 🙂
Agenda 21 is why IPCC was started.
Gail Combs says:
December 1, 2011 at 10:10 am…………
This might be an interesting read for you.
http://www.spinpolitico.com/forum/topics/sustainable-developmentagenda-1