♫ You've got…that vexatious feeling ♫

It started out simple enough, a standard “righteous” FOIA request to UEA/CRU’s David Palmer, the FOI officer, from a researcher in Britain no less. This is email 0584.txt Dr. Phil Jones take on it didn’t seem to impress FOI agent Palmer at all.

>>X-Authentication-Warning: ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk: defang set sender

>>to <REDACTED> using -f

>>Subject: Freedom of Information

>>Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:33:56 +0100

>>X-MS-Has-Attach:

>>X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:

>>Thread-Topic: Freedom of Information

>>Thread-Index: Acoc/QT7+Yv13Ew0Q5SXODkiAy56LA==

>>Priority: Urgent

>>From: “Keiller, Donald” <REDACTED>

>>To: <REDACTED>, <REDACTED>

>>Cc: <REDACTED>

Dear Mrs Palmer,

I have been reading with increasing disbelief the litany of excuses offered by CRU FOI Officers to Steve McIntyre at “Climate Audit” (http://www.climateaudit.org/) to refuse release of original temperature data held at CRU.

The refusal of FOI requests on the basis of confidentiality agreements which were either “verbal”, or “lost” is clearly illegal. If you cannot substantiate these agreements, then they are null and void.

Similarly the refusal to provide data to allow fellow scientists access to original data to reproduce published findings strikes at the very heart of scientific enquiry.

Papers produced without such supporting data become hearsay

and must be withdrawn.

Accordingly I make the following FOI request, confirming that

I am a academic who has published in the area of climate change in the past and that I

currently work in an academic institution.

Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act (2000) “General right of access to information held by public authorities”

In this Act any reference to a “request for information” is a reference to such a request which-

(a) is in writing,

(b) states the name of the applicant and an address for

correspondence, and

(c) describes the information requested.

For the purposes of subsection (1)(a), a request is to be treated as made in writing where the text of the request-

(a) is transmitted by electronic means,

(b) is received in legible form, and

(c) is capable of being used for subsequent reference.

I hereby request:

1. A copy of any digital version of the CRUTEM station data set that has been sent from CRU to Peter Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and June 25, 2009

2. A copy of any instructions or stipulations accompanying the transmission of data to Peter Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and June 25, 2009 limiting its further dissemination or  disclosure.

Yours sincerely,

Dr. D.R. Keiller.

Department of Life Sciences,

Anglia Ruskin University,

East Road,

Cambridge,

CB1 1PT

Here’s Dr. Jones response to Dave Palmer

>—–Original Message—–

>From: Phil Jones [REDACTEDREDACTED]

>Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:00 PM

>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)

>Subject: Fwd: Freedom of Information

>

>

> Dave,

> From the language in this request, I’d regard it as vexatious.

> Cheers

> Phil

>

And Dave Palmer’s response to Dr. Jones

cc: “Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD)” <REDACTED>

date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:58:28 +0100

from: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” <REDACTED>

subject: RE: Freedom of Information [FOI-09-129]

to: “Jones Philip Prof (ENV)” <REDACTED>

Phil,

Whilst it’s getting close, I would not regard the language as sufficiently abusive or argumentative as to render this request as vexatious. In fact, I logged it and acknowledged it prior to my departure on hols but didn’t get around to circulating the request it seems… (I would, however, appreciate my proper gender being recognised! Lol)

As it is very much in line with other such requests, I presumed our response would be very much the same…

Cheers, Dave

It seems as if Palmer is duty bound by all that “vexatious” extra work that these requests supposedly caused CRU scientists, but it seems all Dr. Phil Jones has to do is dismiss each with a wave of the hand.

It seems Dr. Jones finally figured out “the mole” was their own open FTP server with inconvenient bytes lying around. Apparently, that’s vexatious too.

From: Phil Jones [[1] REDACTEDREDACTED]

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:06 PM

To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)

Subject: Fwd: RE: Station data

Dave,

REDACTEDSee this link below. This message sent by someone at the Hadley Centre. I guess we don’t rise to the bait. Can we say taunting is vexatious?

Cheers

Phil

[2]http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6644#comments

This suggests to me that as there is no way that Dan would be aware its not him. Could it be that Mr. M sniffed the FTP site and ahs led everyone a merry dance. Can you log when that file was accessed? One for Mike and IT support at your end?

Prof. Phil Jones

Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0)REDACTED

School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0)REDACTED

University of East Anglia

NorwichREDACTED Email REDACTED

NR4 7TJ

UK

For the record, from I still don’t have a photograph of “the mole” as alluded to in CA comments by “vexatious” commenter “The Ford Prefect”. I do however have a screencap of that event and the file of interest (red arrow). Of course that’s not the file(s) Dr. Keiller and others have been seeking.

BTW there are many emails with “vexatious” in them

1. 0584

…cc: “Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD)” date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:58:28 +0100 from: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” subject: RE: Freedom of Information [FOI-09-129] to: “Jones Philip Prof (ENV)” Phil, Whilst it’s getting…

2. 1131

…This message sent by someone at the Hadley Centre. I guess we don’t rise to the bait. Can we say taunting is vexatious? Cheers Phil [2]http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6644#comments This suggests to me…

3. 1184

…However, not having the information, or it being available elsewhere, or some 20-odd other exemptions are valid and I’m happy to see what of these may apply to the raw data… As to the request itself…

4. 1473

…and I think we might have a case under EIR ‘manifestly unreasonable’ grounds as that definition is wider than that for ‘vexatious’ requests under FOIA). Cheers, Dave…

5. 1577

…McIntyre that agreements prevented us from disclosing information – I doubt that they will see the nuances that only some of the information was covered by such agreements & we cannot release the lot…

6. 1599

…I said the bit about records not being kept should be removed. Our FOI person has ruled that if we get an FOI request from Harmon we can treat it as vexatious! I’m surprised that your press office have…

7. 2200

…Dave Palmer (Chris – he is the central FOIA contact) has mentioned that we can refuse to deal with a request if we perceive it to be vexatious. The tone and content of the message to Dr Wang is clearly…

8. 2289

…date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:34:21 +0100 from: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” subject: RE: Freedom of Information Act request (FOI_08-23) to: “Briffa Keith Prof (ENV)” , “Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD)” , “Osborn Timothy…

9. 2475

…date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:28:22 +0100 from: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” subject: RE: Freedom of Information Act request (FOI_08-23) to: “Briffa Keith Prof (ENV)” , “Mcgarvie Michael Mr (ACAD)” , “Osborn Timothy…

10. 2655

…there is no ‘appropriate limit’) BUT there are more advantages to treating it under EIR. For example, we can extend response time to 40 working days, and, the only ‘vexatious’ test is manifest unreasonableness…

11. 3108

…cc: “Briffa Keith Prof (ENV)” , “Jones Philip Prof (ENV)” date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:10:05 +0100 from: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” subject: FW: Freedom of Information Act 1998 / Environmental Information to…

12. 3791

…The way things seem to be going, I think it best if we discuss all FOI, EIR, Data Protection requests in person wherever possible, rather than via email. It’s such a shame that the skeptics’ vexatious…

13. 4083

…This encouragement of others to join his campaign/war might eventually help us, if it is enough to count as vexatious. Tim — Dr. Tim Osborn RCUK Academic Fellow Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental…

14. 4089

…date: Mon Aug 24 17:00:16 2009 from: Phil Jones subject: Fwd: Freedom of Information to: “Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)” Dave, From the language in this request, I’d regard it as vexatious. Cheers Phil X-Authentication-Warning…

15. 4131

…> However, not having the information, or it being available elsewhere, or > some 20-odd other exemptions are valid and I’m happy to see what of > these may apply to the raw data… > As to the request…

16. 4522

…I said the bit about records not being kept should be removed. Our FOI person has ruled that if we get an FOI request from Harmon we can treat it as vexatious! I’m surprised that your press office have…

17. 4878

…This message sent by someone at the Hadley Centre. I guess we don’t rise to the bait. Can we say taunting is vexatious? Cheers Phil [1]http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6644#comments This suggests to me…

18. 5065

…It might be useful to have the other emails as well if, for example, we wish to consider a claim for a vexatious request under s.14…. Cheers, Dave >—–Original Message—– >From: Phil Jones 8…

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Wayne Delbeke
November 29, 2011 2:05 pm

Within the European Union grouping, which speaks at the summit with one voice, cracks were already beginning to emerge after the publication of a report suggesting the UK was backing a controversial plan by Canada to extract oil from swampland – something the EU has made clear it is against because of the levels of greenhouse gas emissions.
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Good grief! Where have people been over the last 40 years. Why do you think most of the drilling in Canada is done in the winter? It is to minimize environmental impacts in drilling areas much of which has to be accessed in areas susceptible to damage when not frozen. It is responsible development and certainly not new.

JJThoms
November 30, 2011 4:57 am

Can anyone point to an email which actually shows collusion to tamper with data. This shold not include the DECLINE which is covered in many published papers and so is not HIDDEN! I have searched for word like untruth, lie, invalid, fudge, bodge, etc, etc., But they all refer to others papers who do not support the AGW theory.
Can anyone also show me where these $billions are going – no one is bragging about new motors, vast estates etc in these emails. Where has it all gone?

beng
November 30, 2011 8:11 am

you’ve got that vexatious feeling,
oh-oh that vexatious feeling,
you’ve got that vexatious feeling,
now its gone, gone, gone,
and I can’t go on, no-oh-no.

Gail Combs
December 1, 2011 5:21 am

Looks like you caught the Media in an outright LIE. Someone doctored that Photo or used another one
This is the original screen capture by Tallbloke: http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/
[Moderator note] Nope, not me. – tallmod
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davidmhoffer says:
November 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm
temp;
I followed that link and read the article in its entirety. But then I followed the link to the original article as published in Japan:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_13.html
The map they have indeed shows some surprised, but it isn’t anything like what the article you linked to suggested. Yes, there’s a patch of the United States that is light green (absorbs slightly more CO2 than it emmits) but 3/4 of the US and all of Canada are pink (emmit more than they absorb) and Europe is mostly bright red (emmit lots more than they absorb). So I’m confused here because the article you link to and the actual map seem to show two opposite conclusions.
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