UPDATE: WUWT Gets results – Time fixes the error! See below.
Reader HowardW sends this tip. Almost two years after the discovery of this ridiculous error, once labeled “voodoo science” by IPCC Rajenda Pachauri when told of skeptics pointing out this error, only to have to admit it is a real mistake later, the “Himilayan Glaciers will melt by 2035” is back. Here’s the screencap of the article:
It is amazing that this false date of 2035 is still in circulation at a major media outlet, isn’t it?
I ask that WUWT readers make sure the editors of Time are aware of the error. Here’s where you can fill their Inbox:
http://www.time.com/time/letters/email_letter.html
As for author Julien Bouissou, you’d think that somebody who has immersed himself in India and is a member of the Institute for the Practice of Journalism would hear about the IPCC fiasco over glaciers. But, no.
Maybe one of our French speaking readers can locate the original article in Lemonde and notify them too.
UPDATE: 3:00PM PST 11/16/2011 – Responding to the attention brought to bear by WUWT, Time has retracted the statement about glaciers disappearing in 2035 and added this statement:
It only took about 6 hours – good job folks!
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Al Gore, please bring snow to the Durban fest,
the obvious objective of this and other current propaganda.
Yep! wrong reports do become rather persistent.
But I am wondering how many WUWT readers poked their thumbs into their eyes to avoid seeing the 20-30 metres of glacier recession per year. Can’t swear to it but that sounded like local knowledge.
Is this consistent with the revised IPCC figures? Assuming the 35 years claim was a displaced decimal point and the glaciers will be gone in 350 years that points to glaciers that are 350x20m long. In other words 7 km or longer. Sounds about right to me.
Very interesting….. The Time complains about global warming and blames it for problems in Bhutan, but when I opened the article, I got an add of Big Oil above the article. See my screen shot:
http://tinypic.com/r/2uqj1w4/5
From LazyTeenager on November 16, 2011 at 2:57 pm:
Retreat of glaciers since 1850
So as the world warmed since the LIA, the glaciers retreated. During the 1950-80 global cooling the glaciers were recovering. Then the warming resumed, and the glaciers were retreating again.
Plus don’t forget of examples like the one on Kilimanjaro, which are sublimating away due to land use changes resulting in drier air around the peak. And the effects of soot on glaciers as well.
And now global warming has gone on vacation, looks like it’ll be awhile until it comes back. So now we wait and see if the glaciers recover again.
Ah, and I see where the article in the post got that “mountain tsunami” stuff from:
Calling such an outburst a “tsunami” is unnecessary hyperbole, and given what happened just this year to Japan it’s arguably insensitive. Still it is a potential problem, which has been recognized thus actions to prevent loss of life can be taken. However as Peer-Reviewed Climate Science™ has said global warming and its effects will continue for a thousand years even if we shut down civilization and all anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions now, reducing our emissions is not anything resembling a viable solution.
Dr Richard North and India’s leading Glacier expert Vijay Raina discuss the implications of the false 2035 date appearing in the IPCC report.
Climategate: GlacierGate Debate Part 1
Climategate: GlacierGate Debate part 2
Brandon says:
November 16, 2011 at 10:24 am
“What difference does it make if it is 2035 or 2100? If its a problem its a problem no matter when the consequence will be fully realized.”
So, you’re saying the time scale doesn’t matter? With that in mind:
In a billion years or so the sun will have expanded and the earth will be heated to destruction, the ultimate global warming. Don’t you think that’s a far greater threat than melting glaciers? (ignoring the fact that many glaciers are growing). Don’t you think the UN should establish a scientific panel to access this alarming development? If it’s a problem it’s a problem no matter when the consequence will be fully realized.
Chris
Benoît Rittaud says: November 16, 2011 at 10:57 am
Couldn’t find the Julien Bouisseau article mentioned but found that JB writes for The Guardian (?& Le Monde).
‘……..Alvares is quite nostalgic for the 1960s. “At least the hippies were environmentally friendly.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/23/popularity-turning-goa-into-sewer
DesertYote says: November 16, 2011 at 12:21 pm
XKCD cartoons
Very funny
Interstellar Bill says:
November 16, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Al Gore, please bring snow to the Durban fest,
the obvious objective of this and other current propaganda.
I’m afraid that’s beyond even his power to screw things up.
No, no, this can’t be considered breaking “news” ….
The xkcd website (See Jer0me says: November 16, 2011 at 1:34 pm ) shows most clearly how such “facts” are continually renewed and recycled ad infinitum by the enviro’s and CAGW alarmists. Indeed, recycling is their preference.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/citogenesis.png
@John in L du B,
Stick to climate and don’t lump everyone that opposes genetically modified organisms/foods and irradiation of food together with green fanatics. The risks of GMO are only just beginning to be known, but include ulcers, allergies, reduced fertility, stunted growth, aggressiveness never before seen in certain species, and the wonderful eternal, internal toxicity caused by BT overtaking intestinal flora and continuing to produce pesticide in the gut.
I’d tell you to keep your GMO to yourself, but that wouldn’t be fair to others nearby you, since it can’t be contained, as studies of primitive corn species in the highlands of Mexico have shown.
@ur momisugly Alan Bates – No misunderstanding here. You are describing a flash flood. My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous nature of the headline “Mountain Tsunamis”.