Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
As I mentioned in my last post, I’d planned to hitchhike for a couple days. My plan was to hitch up to Grant’s Pass, Oregon to go to the bachelor party for a good friend. This is the guy who was instrumental in my getting a job a couple years ago as a sport salmon fishing guide on the Kenai River. He’s maybe thirty or thirty-five, marrying a woman he met in high school, first marriage for both. Besides, in all my life I’d never been to a bachelor party.
I decided to hitchhike because my wife and daughter would be coming to the wedding, and I didn’t want to take two cars. At least that’s what I said. Really, I wanted to be on the road again. I’ve hitchhiked up and down this coast from San Diego to Seattle, I love the open highway.
People’s reactions were a bit of a surprise to me. Not one person said “Man, that sounds like a great trip.” Instead, “Really?” was the most common response, with a tone suggesting I’d departed my senses. “Take your pepper spray” or other advice to protect myself and be careful came in second. Nobody seemed to think it was a sane plan in the slightest. No one thought it would be fun. They all were concerned for my safety.
But I’ve hitchhiked thousands and thousands of miles, including coast to coast and Canada to Mexico, and I’ve never once felt physically threatened or even been scared when I was hitchhiking. Hundreds and hundreds of rides without incident or fear for my safety.
It reminded me, though, of the ways that we keep ourselves from adventures. Sure, something could happen on my next ride, past performance is no guarantee of future success. But I refuse to let the fear of that kind of outcome rule my life, it’s a long-standing matter of principle with me.
So early on Wednesday, my wife dropped me off on Highway 1, and I started hitching north. I needed to be in Grants Pass by 5 PM the next day. It’s about 460 miles to get there (750km). I had decided to take the Coast Highway rather than Highway 101 because none of it is freeway, you can’t hitch on the freeway, and I hate hitchhiking at the freeway on-ramps. Plus I fished commercially for many years along the coast and I love to see it again. But most of all … it is stunningly beautiful, while Highway 101 is nowhere near as spectacular. I went for the beauty and for the ocean. Here’s my gear at my takeoff point.
I didn’t have to wait too long for the first ride, maybe 45 minutes. It was a short ride, about four miles into Bodega Bay. But I was really glad to get the ride, because I’d forgotten one crucial item—sunscreen. I was already frying.
There’s an art to hitchhiking, and I’m a lifelong student of that art. First, the sign is crucial. The best signage in my history was when I’d just gotten out of high school. Me and a friend wanted to get to Santa Cruz. I stood in front with a big sign saying “SANTA CRUZ OR BUST”. My buddy stood just a bit further down the road with a sign saying “WE’LL TAKE EITHER”.
In any case, I had a great sign for this trip. On one side it said “OREGON WEDDING”. But I knew once I got to Oregon that wouldn’t mean much, so the other side of the sign said “GRANTS PASS WEDDING”. It was made of thick cardboard, and it was specially cut so it folded up and went into the pocket on my guitar case. It was held up by my little wheelie bag, which is hidden behind and holding up the sign in the picture. So I didn’t have to hold it or keep it from flopping in the wind.
Next, the guitar. A man carrying a guitar is a whole lot more likely to get picked up. Plus I wanted to play guitar with the groom, although that never came to pass, he was a little busy. In any case, the guitar was an indispensable prop, and it’s great playing it to ward off boredom while hitching. I have a guitar case with backpack straps, so it’s easy to carry.
Next, the clothes. You need to look clean-cut, shaved, and showered. You don’t have to be any of those things, but it is essential that you look the part, and it’s easier if you really are all of those.
Next, luggage. Smaller is better, especially with the current crop of small cars. My little wheelie bag was small enough to hide behind my sign.
Next, the “NO”s. No sunglasses, people can’t see your eyes. No floppy hats, same reason. No shorts, no sandals, no weird attire. No walking stick, it looks like a weapon.
Finally, location, location, location. You can stand all day in the wrong spot. Level ground is best. The advantage is psychological. If it’s on a downhill, people don’t want to stop ’cause they’re rolling downhill, and if it’s uphill, they want to keep going to make it to the top. Also, sight lines are critical. The drivers need to be able to see you in time to judge you and make a decision. So you can’t be too close to a bend. But on the other hand, it’s a Goldilocks deal—too short a sight line is bad, but if they have too long to make the decision, they may slow down and then change their minds and speed up again. You also need an open place for them to pull off the road safely. Picking your spot is critical, and when I find a good one, I don’t leave.
I found a decent spot across the road from the little store where I got the sunscreen. But it wasn’t the best, and so after an hour with no luck I walked a quarter-mile to where I knew the situation was more favorable. After about a half hour, I caught a ride with a middle-aged man going to work. He took me about 25 miles, to just past Fort Ross. He was taciturn, unusual for someone picking up a hitchhiker. I drew him out as best I could.
He dropped me off north of Fort Ross. The location was abysmal, no sight lines where the turnout was. So I started to walk. After walking a quarter-hour, I found an OK place, but the turnout was small and not very visible. I hitched a bit, then started walking again. I found a slightly better place for the turnout, but it was close to a corner, not enough time for the drivers to make up their minds. I again tried for a bit with no luck, and set out walking again. I walked about a mile, and was passing through a very bad spot for walking, a twisty section with almost no room on the verge to get off the road. A car pulled up beside me and stopped. It was the man who had given me the last ride. I jumped in as quickly as I could, it was a blind corner and he took a chance to pick me up.
I rode with him to the town of Gualala, about 25 miles. He had gotten injured on the job the previous week, and now he had to go to the doctor. We had a bit more time to talk, and besides we were now old friends twice met. He sounded a number of themes that I was to hear repeated throughout the trip.
One was a lack of belief that the climate was going to harm us. When I said that the climate was warming, and had been for centuries, that was no surprise to most of the people who picked me up. When I said that I thought people could and did affect the climate by cutting down forests, people agreed. When I said that black carbon soot could warm the northern regions by melting snow and ice, people said that seemed reasonable. When I said that a slight warming wouldn’t be a problem, not one person demurred. And when I said that CO2 level wasn’t what controlled the temperature of the earth, the general response was on the lines of “Yeah, I didn’t think so.”
Now, this is the attitude that is generally associated with Republicans. Me, I’m a climate heretic and an independent who has always voted against the Republican candidate, which should not be mistaken for voting for the Democratic candidate. My grandmother and my mother raised me, and both of them were strong FDR style Democrats. A joke current in the family when I was younger was about the guy hitchhiking in the Great Depression times. He sticks out his thumb, and a big Cadillac pulls over. The driver says “Son, are you a Republican or a Democrat”. “I’m a Democrat like my mom and my grandma, and proud of it” comes the reply, and the car pulls away without him.
After a bit, another car pulls over, and the driver says, “Son, what’s your political persuasion”. “Well, I’m pretty sure I’m a Democrat, although lately that hasn’t been panning out so well.” The driver snorts, and again the car drives away. The guy starts hitchhiking again.
When the third car pulls over, he can’t believe his eyes. It’s a beautiful woman in a red dress, driving a Lincoln convertible. “My good man,” she says, “which political party do you favor?”
Being a typical victim of testosterone poisoning, the answer is foreordained. He swallows his pride and says “Ma’am, I do believe I just became a Republican.” “Hop in”, she says. “We’ll go for a ride.”
He can’t help looking at her, she’s gorgeous. The wind is tossing her hair as she drives along, and she doesn’t seem to notice that it’s blowing her dress higher and higher up her legs. He can’t stop himself from looking and imagining, staring … suddenly, he shakes his head as if awakening from a dream, and shouts “Stop the car! Stop the car!”.
“What’s the matter?”, the woman asks.
“I’ve only been a Republican for ten minutes”, he replies, “and already I want to screw somebody.”
Now, there’s a point to my telling this story. Do you know how I can tell that that’s a joke, and not really something that might have actually happened?
Because Republicans don’t pick up hitchhikers.
Oh, back in the day, the odd Republican farmer or fishermen or carpenter might pick up a hitchhiker. But by and large, you know who has picked me up my entire life?
Poor people. Perhaps not poor right now, but people who have been poor. People who know what it is to sleep rough. And by and large, these days those are Democrats and not Republicans.
Here’s what the folks who picked me up had in common.
1. They all supported the Occupy Wall Street protests. I didn’t push to see why, I’m a guest in their car. The common thread expressed was anger that the people who brought the economy down had gone unpunished.
2. Curiously, only one person thought climate change was even a slightly important issue. The general sense about the question was “meh” or “whatever”.
3. Not a Republican in the bunch.
4. They all were very disappointed by Obama. Different reasons were given, but not one person was happy with his performance.
5. Like me, they all either were or had been dirt poor in their lives.
But I’m getting ahead of my story. The day was clear, with a few of those high hooked clouds that scientists call “cirrus spissatus” and fishermen call “mares tails”, and the sea is beautiful in Gualala, so I filled my time by feasting my eyes on the world. After a while, two surfers picked me up, headed up to Point Arena. I’m a surfer myself, so that works. One was interested in sharks, so I entertained him with tales of various friends’ encounters with sharks. The surfers didn’t care about the economy, Wall Street, Main Street, or any street that didn’t lead to the beach. They thought that the earth would solve the climate problem.
There seems to be some unwritten rule in hitchhiking that nobody is going to the far side of town. You always seem to get dropped off on this side of town, and you have to walk to the far side. Point Arena was no different, the surfers dropped me at the south end. However, a most curious succession of events took place there. I was walking through town when a guy came up smoking a cigarette and started talking to me. This is what hitchhiking is about for me, taking the pulse of the people and the place, meeting new people, listening to their stories.
So we talked for a few minutes, about this and that. Suddenly, he says “Do you smoke dope?”
Hmmm … how to answer. What are his motives? Hmmm. My brain is racing, I’m sure I’ve got the deer in the headlights look.
So I figure I’ll stick to the truth, in a pinch I’ve found that works best. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, in the past I have indeed partaken of a wide variety of psychoactive substances. So I confessed as much to him. However, for the obvious reason I did not say that I hadn’t inhaled.
“Well, did you leave home with any weed? You really should have some when you’re on the road.”, he said. He seemed concerned.
This man wants to sell me something, I thought. I expected his next words to be “Herb, don’t leave home without it.” I admitted to him that somehow, that oh-so-essential item had slipped my mind when I was preparing for the trip, leaving me woefully and totally unprepared for the harsh crush of drug-free reality. Then I waited for his sales pitch, to see how this would all play out.
“Man, you should have some with you. My friend gave me these six baggies when I was leaving the house this morning. Here, let me lay one on you,” he says. He pulls out six baggies, picks one out, and stuffs it in my coat pocket.
I see. He’s not a salesman. He’s my new friend. He’s just given me a bag of weed. In downtown Point Arena. On the sidewalk of the main street, which is Highway 1. In broad daylight. I belatedly notice that the cigarette he’s smoking is hand-rolled …
But as Bokonon says, “Peculiar travel suggestions are just dancing lessons from God,” and he should know. So I thanked my new friend for his dancing lesson, and I walked on down to the far end of town, wondering just how on earth this dance was going to play out. Up on the hill at the top of town, I found a perfect location for hitchhiking, the dream location. Here’s a picture:
The traffic cone was already there, we have a post to highlight my guitar case, plenty of space to stop, just the right distance the other way for people to look me over, it was great. Plus in California it’s illegal to hitchhike on the pavement, and there was a legal sidewalk there to stand on … with a baggie of dope in my pocket …
I stood there for maybe an hour. It was getting late. Finally, a car with a couple of guys in their 20’s stopped. Unfortunately, they were only going about 15 minutes outside of town, and night was not too far off. I said I wanted to stay in Point Arena if I couldn’t get to another town, I didn’t want to sleep rough. “C’mon,” one guy said, “hop in, I want to hear you play guitar.”
“Can’t do it,” I said. “But actually,” I told them, “I think that the real reason you pulled over was not so that you could give me a ride. It was so that I could give you this.” I pulled the baggie out of my pocket and handed it to the passenger. He didn’t immediately recognize it. When he did, he looked up at me, and then back down at the baggie, and up at me, and back down again. I could see the gears stripping in his brain. They’d pulled over to give a ride to some random white guy in his sixties, and the guy has just handed him a bag full of dope, and thanked them for their kind offer of a ride. “You sure?” he said.
“Yeah, I’m sure”, I said.
“Wow. Thanks”
“My pleasure”, I said, and he didn’t likely realize what a great pleasure it was indeed to be rid of it, gone to a happy home. They drove off all smiles. I stuck out my thumb, feeling much lighter.
It took a while to get a ride at Point Arena. As happened for the whole trip, people loved the plot of my story. They loved the guy hitching to the wedding. They loved the guitar. They thought the sign was great. They just didn’t stop. Say what?
Finally a charming middle-aged woman pulled over. She was going to the town of Manchester, if a single store and a post office can be called a town. It’s rare to be picked up by a woman, so I hopped in, even though I knew it meant I might spend a real cold night.
She worked at whatever jobs came down the pike, she said, supporting her three sons. The local economy was moribund except for the people legally growing marijuana under California’s medical marijuana act. Fishing and logging were both dead before the current depression, and now tourism is dead as well. She didn’t grow herself, her friends made $20 per hour “trimming the buds” as she called it, clipping off all of the leaves. She cleaned houses. She did landscaping. She scraped by. She said people were unhappy with Obama because he was breaking his word and arresting legal marijuana growers. Go figure.
When I told her what had happened in Point Arena, she cracked up. “Oh, that’s just P.A., it’s always like that.” Always like what, I thought? What else is “like” what just happened to me?
When we got out to Manchester, she said she lived in the KOA, the Kampgrounds of America chain of camping sites … with her three sons, 15, 13, and 12. I said my mom had four sons and I didn’t realize until I grew up what toil and heartache that meant. I thanked her for the kind offer, and said I was going to be on the road for as long as it took.
It took a while. The sun was just setting when I got my final ride of the day. The driver was a fascinating guy. He’d been a Peace Corps Volunteer in Senegal in the nineties. Well, in the eighties I’d done an in-country inspection and assessment of a number of Peace Corps projects in Senegal, so that worked. We laughed about living by the salt flats at Kaolack. He talked about how he’d started a garden project supplying vegetables to the local hotels. I told him I’d assessed a similar project in Papua New Guinea, and we discussed the difficulty of making a project succeed in the third world.
He wasn’t surprised by my views on climate. “The climate has always changed”, he said. He didn’t think we had much to do with it. He drove me all the way to Fort Bragg.
I spent the night in a motel. In the morning, I had a choice.
Highway 1 goes along the coast then inland (blue line) from Fort Bragg (A) and connects to Highway 101. There’s also Highway 20 from Fort Bragg which connects to Highway 101 in Willits. There’s a bus to Willits in the morning at 7:30, and there’s very little traffic on Highway 1 north of Fort Bragg. I chose the bus, $3.75, and rolled into Willits early. Of course, the bus goes to the south end of town, and that town is a long sucker. I walked forever, guitar on my back, towing my wheelie bag behind me.
And then I waited. And waited. Lots more traffic than on Highway 1, that’s the good part. Nobody stopping, that’s the bad part. Finally, a woman stopped without me seeing her, and then honked her horn. I gathered up my junk and walked to her car. She was a lawyer who had been working on social causes of various kinds her whole life. It turned out that both she and I had been arrested in the same peaceful sit-in at the Oakland Induction Center in 1967, so that worked. I was convicted of disturbing the peace, although we called it disturbing the war. A lifelong Democrat, she was upset with Obama for his lack of action against what she saw in very 1960’s terms as the pluted bloatocrats plundering the public purse, or something like that. Whatever it was, she was very against it and she felt Obama hadn’t done a thing about it.
Of all the rides I got, she was the only one who thought that climate might cause problems in the future. She admitted that she wasn’t sure what those problems might be. But it didn’t seem to be much of an issue to her. She was passionate about the Native American tribes she represented. She wasn’t passionate about climate.
She dropped me off in Laytonville. And there I stood. And stood. And stood.
I was reminded during this time of what is often the most difficult part of hitchhiking. For me the hardest part is to not blame the people who don’t pick me up, to wish them well instead. Here’s the problem. As the person is driving by, you turn and watch them, and suppose you think “Yer a heartless wanker to pass me by like that” or the like. When you turn back to face the next car, that anger and bitterness is still in your face, and people can see that from afar.
One of the most important parts of hitchhiking is looking people in the eye. You want them to see you as a real person, not as a generic hitchhiker. You want them to know you are honest, that you can honestly look a man or woman in the eye. One of the drivers said to me “I never pick up someone looking at the ground.”
And if when you turn to look the next driver in the eye, your face is full of frustration and anger, the driver will say “That guy looks angry”, which is a double-plus ungood thing for a hitchhiker. People are afraid of angry men, and with good reason.
So my practice is to look the driver in the face as they approach. If they turn me down, I want them to do it to my face. And then when I see that they have chosen not to pick me up, I pull in my thumb and I give them a nice wave and a big smile, and I truly wish them well. Nor is it a sham or a pretence, I don’t want anything bad to happen to those folks, and I am truly at ease with their decision not to pick me up.
It is a sort of meditative practice for me, scoping out the people and wishing them all the best regardless. Often I can tell early that they’re not going to pick me up, and they seem genuinely surprised when I just wave and smile. Some people seem unable to look at me. Some older women seemed to take it almost as a personal affront, that a man of my age and mode of dress would stoop to hitchhiking. Some women just cracked up laughing at my sign and my scene, and pointed me out to the other people in the cars. But they all passed me … and I wished them all good speed.
Finally, I thought “Dang … I may not make it”. I can divide as well as the next man. From Laytonville it’s about five hours run to Grant’s Pass. It was ten AM. The bachelor party was at five PM. Closer and closer, tick tick tick, another hour went by … and then, amazingly, an 18-wheeler truck stopped and the guy said “I don’t know if we can fit all your gear, I don’t have a sleeper. Where are you going?”
“Grants Pass”, I said. “I’m going right through there”, he said. “I’ll carry my gear on my lap, I’ll fit it in.”
The trucker was great. Most truckers these days won’t pick you up. About my age, he had a most curious history. Every business he’d ever worked for had folded. He’d run away from home at 14 because his stepfather beat him, and hitchhiked all around the US. He’d worked for a whole string of sawmills on the West Coast, moving from one to another as each one went under. Then he got into trucking, and every concern he’d worked for had gone under. He said he could read the writing on the wall, he was hauling construction materials, and the construction industry in California is in the dumper … his company is in trouble, they’ve let most workers go. He was only still employed because like me, he’s a generalist. There’s not enough work for a truck driver, but for a truck driver who can work in the shop and can drive forklift around the yard there’s just enough work.
But he’s happy as a clam. He’d built a shovel-head suicide-clutch Harley Davidson from parts. That’s a bike I rode a bit in my youth, I knew that bitch of a ride, so that worked. We talked jobs, and biking, and women. He’s been in hiding from his ex, who went nuts when he wanted a divorce. She trashed the whole house, scratched up her face, and then claimed he tried to rape her. He finally was able to prove that he wasn’t even in town when it happened, but by the time he could come up with the proof he’d already been ordered to go to anger management classes. Then she started stalking the classes. The cops warned him she was after him, so he’d finished the classes and moved to another town to escape her. But he had a new girlfriend, and she had her own motorcycle. He said he was actually even thinking of adding a back seat to his Harley for her. I said if he was willing to make that sacrifice for her, she must be a fine woman indeed.
He told me about hitchhiking on the freeway in Illinois as a kid, and being ordered off the freeway by a cop. The cop wouldn’t give him a ride, just made him walk a mile through waist deep snow … the stories rolled back and forth as the miles rolled by. He was upset with Obama just because he didn’t seem to the driver to be getting things done. He didn’t believe in man-made climate change, seemed he thought God wouldn’t allow man to be that powerful.
So at forty minutes before five o’clock, he dropped me off on the side of the highway in Grant’s Pass. I almost forgot my sign in his truck, I jumped up and beat on the door as he was leaving. He handed it to me with a knowing look, and said “Here’s yer sign …” I cracked up and said I knew that song, and I did, too. He was lots of fun to ride with, he was what hitchhiking is all about.
Of course, I wasn’t quite there yet. I still had three point six miles (5.8 km) to go to the bachelor party according to my phone GPS. So I started walking. I figured I’d just about get there. I had a feeling that the groom or some of my friends would be coming along the road, so I turned around when I could, but mostly I just walked, pulling my little bag and carrying my guitar.
I arrived at what I thought was the address. A lady was driving out. I walked towards her car to ask if I had the right place. She seemed frightened, put up her hand to stop me, and backed up her driveway. Egads … am I that scary? I flatter myself that I’m five foot eleven tall (180 cm), and I weigh maybe a buck sixty (72 kg) soaking wet, hardly an imposing figure. Maybe she was just having a bad hair day. Maybe I’m uglier than I think, perhaps my habit of avoiding mirrors has a downside, I didn’t know what scared her.
But the next house proved to be the one. I walked into the party at about ten minutes after five. I hadn’t told anyone I was coming, and a couple of them had passed me while I was walking from town to the party, and as a result much hilarity ensued. Everyone was smoking some kind of big panatella cigars, I don’t know if they were Cuban, but they gave me one and said they were fifty dollars a box or something. It was a very easy-smoking cigar.
Or at least that’s what they told me, I can’t say because I didn’t inhale … they said the lady next door was a Deputy Sheriff. I asked them to explain the strange visitor next time they spoke to her, I felt bad about scaring her.
Anyhow, that’s where I’ve been. The bachelor party, well, that’s a whole other story that ends up with the best man’s best friend, who is 80 years old, getting bitten by a camel. And the wedding was outrageous, outdoors in the sunshine right down by the Rogue River, a portentous place for a fisherman and his lady-love. The groom’s party arrived in a boat with the groom at the oars. The party included his grandfather (who was his best man), his father, two sisters, a brother, and the couple’s two-year old son. Grandfather for your best man, father, and son at your wedding, that’s something special for me to see. I got to dance with my 19-year-old daughter, that was special too, life doesn’t get much better.
Today we drove back. I’m not sure what my conclusions are from my trip. I went in part to see what’s going on out there. I found that there are a lot of frightened people in America these days. It’s much harder to hitchhike than it has ever been, people are more afraid of strangers, my theory is they watch too many cop shows.
But they’re also afraid on a deeper level, afraid for their jobs, afraid that Congress has sold out to the lobbyists, afraid that money talks and they don’t have much, afraid that their town or county will go bankrupt paying obscene pensions, afraid that their leaders have failed them and that the American dream is dying and they don’t know why. They don’t care much about what the climate will do by 2050. They are concerned with getting through the month.
I fear I have no magic plan to fix that. All I can do is continue my practice, to look each passing man or woman in the face, to hope they breast the tide of their fears and go venturing and adventuring in this marvelous, mysterious world, and to wish them well on their journey wherever their dancing lessons might take them.
My regards to everyone, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
w.
… from Willis’s upcoming autobiography, entitled “Retire Early … and Often” …




gnomish says:
October 19, 2011 at 10:05 am
“heh-“, as you say, indeed. I had said:
and
So there’s my claim, the one you say is so wrong, “heh-“.
It is that about a quarter of registered voters in Sonoma are Republican, and they are a bit over-represented on the coast where land and houses are expensive.
You do realize that by this I’ve said the area is not a conservative area, don’t you?
If I’m mistaken, then you need to provide some numbers. You do know numbers? Because the citation you gave seems to have never heard of them.
So. If the Repubs are actually about a quarter of the population as I said, I’m right. If not, you’re right. I provided my numbers. Your turn to put your numbers where your mouth is.
And yes, I do know that your claim is just a story “told by a person on a soapbox with an agenda”, but thanks for reminding me anyways. Mine, however, is backed by research and facts.
w.
PaulID says:
October 19, 2011 at 10:12 am
I was surprised by the vitriol myself. However, I don’t know if my saying things in a different tone of voice or clarifying things would have done a whole lot of good. For example, I’d made one pleasant reply when someone contributed this:
Sigh … did they miss the point much? Since at that point I had made one neutral reply, it’s clear that the vitriol is not mine.
Should I have “started out explaining why [I] wrote it the way [I] did”?
No. It was an adventure story, fer goodness sake, not a science experiment of some kind. Sure, I wrote it to express a position, and sure, I was curious to see how people would respond, but that was only a part of it. As I said:
I think I was very successful in showing that, folks by and large did not fit that profile in the slightest, Republican or not.
But if I’d started out the story with that, a) the story wouldn’t have been any fun at all, what good is that, and b) the audience wouldn’t have divided on ideological lines between those who could enjoy a good tale and laugh at themselves, and those who think someone is out there having fun and should be stopped and who very rarely laugh at themselves.
Thanks for your comment,
w.
Jim G says:
October 19, 2011 at 11:14 am
Sadly, I fear you are not far wrong with that assessment, Jim. I’ve discussed the lunacy of California’s energy policy in “Between Wind and Water“, it’s either a Greek tragedy or a Geek tragedy, not sure which … I am greatly saddened to see my beloved state fall so far, in all the ways you list.
Thanks,
w.
I hope that in my rambling I did not imply that the vitriol was your because I truly like your writing if I did please accept my apologies I am writing this while under prescription pain med(BTW kidney stones suck) you are truly one of the people I would like to meet that I read here and my offer still stands if you are ever in southeastern Idaho look me up you have my email, you would have a place to stay and a few good meals and I hope some great conversation.
Nylo says:
October 19, 2011 at 6:14 am (Edit)
Thanks, Nylo. However, I’m not sure your basic point is valid. Your claim is that somehow criticism is harder to take when it’s from the “other team”.
But for me, the hardest criticism to take was from my mom, and she was most definitely on my team … why should criticism from a team member be easier to take than from some random guy on the street?
w.
Noelene says:
October 19, 2011 at 4:26 am
If there is “no need to be nasty”, Noelene, then why on earth did you start out that way? In your opening post you picked two random sentences out of a 5,000 word essay and wanted to beat me over the head with them … and that kind of attack tends to make people defensive, Noelene. Surely you must have noticed that by this point in your life.
So yeah, I’m “defensive much” when people start out like that … and if you don’t like defensive people?
Then try not being offensive …
w.
PaulID says:
October 19, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Not sure what the apology is for exactly but thank you for it in any case. And if you are experiencing kidney stones, there is absolutely no need to apologize for anything, in my experience they’re enough to drive St. Simon to confess to the Albigensian Heresy, they’re not a laughing matter in any way.
And thanks for the invite, I don’t get out that way much, but if I do …
w.
Willis,
Your candor regarding your home state is refreshing. Unfortunately CA is a leader and even conservative states such as mine, WY, seem to use the East and West coasts as examples of what they would like to see happen here. We have all the state departments of a state of 30 mm people in a state with population little more than 500,000 and a tax and spend attitude which boggles the mind.
Poptech says:
October 19, 2011 at 3:59 am
And so humble too, what are the odds?
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Willis Eschenbach says:
October 18, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Dennis Dunton says:
October 18, 2011 at 10:20 pm
I’m with Tom Vonk.
Since Tom hasn’t commented, this is terribly unclear. Is this on the right thread?
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Yes he has, and yes it’s the right thread. To save you the trouble of looking it up
I’m re-posting it here.
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TomVonk says:
October 18, 2011 at 3:15 am
“Hmmm what has that post to do on this blog ? A blog about science and puzzling things ?
What has this account about a travel to some wedding to do here ?
Normally I would pass but I feel a comment is in order – I hope that this post is an exception that won’t repeat very often.
To avoid misunderstandings – I have nothing against people who think that the question about how they spent their week end is an interesting issue but I would prefer that they post that on their blogs instead of here.
And while I am at it, a word of criticism to the content.
I am European and we are not divided in Republicans and Democrats here so that this whole kerfluffle about whether the way somebody votes in US impacts his willingness to invite somebody else in his car is without interest for us.
However I would warn you Willis against abusive generalisations.
This :
Now, there’s a point to my telling this story. Do you know how I can tell that that’s a joke, and not really something that might have actually happened?
Because Republicans don’t pick up hitchhikers.
is a textbook example of an abusive generalisation and a ridiculous one to boot.
Clearly you were not joking, you were meaning it.
Of course the correct version of that statement should have been :
If one assumes that I can correctly guess what political party every person votes for at the moment when I enter their car, then my personnal experience is that a majority of drivers who allowed me to enter their car were estimated as voting Democrats. Obviously this sample has no statistical significance so that no other valid conclusions can be drawn.
The problem with abusive generalisations is that they polarise as this thread clearly shows.
Besides it was not necessary – the travel story didn’t call for incorrect political generalisations which make people strongly react because they don’t recognise themselves in the generalisation.
Probably you just emit unconsciously bad anti-republican vibes which are recognised by Republicans and makes them not to stop for this potentially hostile guy who looks like if he could poison their trip by unpleasant rantings.”
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Probably because I don’t believe English is Tom’s native language, the last paragraph made me expel a goodly amount of an excellent beer THRU MY NOSE!! Not a pleasant experience I assure you. LOL
Oh….BTW I have a tendency to vote for Republican Candidates…I do pick up
folks needing a ride and have several humorous stories to tell about it. I’d be glad to share them with you over a beer sometime (as long as it’s not Corona). But if it’s any comfort….I’ve been flat broke a time or two and I’m a country boy.
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Thanks, Dennis. I’d done a search for “Tom Vonk” and couldn’t find it, he was in as “TomVonk”.
However, why you would want to agree with his combination of vitriol and misunderstanding is beyond me. He says:
TomVonk says:
October 18, 2011 at 3:15 am
It is so without interest to him, in fact, that instead of skipping it (which everyone does if they truly are not interested) he spends paragraph after paragraph to say ugly things about it and about me … FAIL. I do love it when folks say “I couldn’t care less about the topic” and then treat us to extensive ranting regarding the topic they don’t care about in the slightest.
Tom, if this is “without interest” to you as you claim, then slope off somewhere else and take your accusations with you, there’s a good fellow. We’re having a fun time here, and your negativity is an ugly intrusion. If you don’t like this type of post … then don’t continue reading it, don’t comment, just go away peacefully. Don’t go away mad, just go away. It’s simple. The web is a big place, I’m sure you can find a place where other people don’t want to have a good time, and your downwards take on things won’t stand out from the crowd … because if you read the comments on this thread, the overwhelming majority of the folks who read this took it the right way, and are having a good time.
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Willis,
An interesting story and well told. Thank you for an interesting read. I’m glad you had a good time. As an aside, I am a Republican who used to pick up hitchhikers. I stopped at my wife’s request right after we got married.
More silly stereotypes as I am a computer analyst by trade. The shades of grey argument is a cop-out for those who consistently make stupid decisions. They also think of themselves as “moderates”, “compromisers”, even “enlightened” or whatever pretentious “zen” crap they come up with. I don’t see anything in shades or grey or black and white but in full color. Shades of grey people make excuses for stupidity because they do not understand things and instead rely on emotional reasoning.
The truth is not PC who knew?
Poptech says:
October 19, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Well … I knew, and have known for years, I get busted all the time for not being PC enough. See the thread here if you doubt me.
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Ron Cram says:
October 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Thanks, Ron. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
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Lack of response suggests I am right: daddy kicked your liberal ass off the ranch.
I did not try to beat you over the head.I am not a good communicator,so maybe I should have put a question mark.
I was explaining why I thought the post was insulting to Republicans.
You say no,that’s not what you meant,misunderstanding on my part,and I apologise.
Willis, please describe a Republican and then explain why you “vote against them” – this should be entertaining.
jae says:
October 19, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Nope. Lack of response suggests I have dealt with you before, and found you to be generally a nasty, unpleasant man (as in this case).
So tell me, jae. Why on earth would I want to respond to such a person?
To respond to your allegations, as you wish:
I grew up on a remote cattle ranch. After my folk’s divorce, the settlement was that mom and all us kids could stay on the ranch until she remarried. Then it was to be sold, with my dad getting half the money.
Then she remarried. She wrote to my dad and asked, for the sake of us kids, if we could continue to live there, including her new husband. Although I know it grated him, my dad generously said yes, he knew it was the best place for us kids even though some other man was living for free on the land and in the house he had sweated to build.
Then my mom divorced again, so at least he could feel better about it. And after a couple years, she remarried again. She was ready to move to town, three of us boys were going to high school in town (an hour’s ride away from the ranch), so the ranch was sold.
Then after about a year in town, one day I woke up and found that mom had left me a thousand bucks and a note saying “Take care of your brothers”, and took the car, and was gone.
Anyhow, that’s the story of my dad (staunch Republican) and my mom (hard-core Democrat) and the ranch. You see what your mean-spirited attack on me adds up to?
All the best, stay well, please don’t expect responses unless you want to dial it a looooong ways back.
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Noelene says:
October 19, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Apology accepted.
And I apologize in turn for the “beat [me] over the head” comment … or I would if I knew what you were talking about. Please, folks, please QUOTE MY WORDS that you want to discuss. I can’t guess what you mean by that, Noelene, and I don’t want to try for fear of a mistake.
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wow, willis. just wow.
I read your story and loved it, but didn’t read the comments until now. I’m glad to call you friend and find the response of some people to just be, how shall I put it mildly, effin insane. You and I could not be farther apart in some regards, but I cherish the time we have spent together over the years. I’m too much of a control freak to leave my arrival at a party up to the kindness of strangers, much less democrat strangers. That you would, explains what I treasure about you as a human being. It’s been a while since we hung out. How about some coffee. It’s on me.
Poptech says:
October 19, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Be glad to, Poptech.
First, a Republican is a person who runs for office under the banner of the Republican Party.
Second, in the Presidential elections, I’ve voted against the Republican candidate under a policy I call the “Lesser of Two Weevils” doctrine. By that, I mean that I haven’t been happy with either candidate. My usual opinion is “A Pox on Both Their Houses“.
However, that’s just in the Presidential elections. In the recent California gubernatorial election, I voted against the Democratic candidate (Jerry Brown) under exactly the same weevily doctrine. I wanted Meg Whitman, but no joy.
Go figure … but you should have known that I wouldn’t be consistent. That’s what makes humans so dang frustrating.
Thanks for the question,
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Thank you, Willis, for your post. I enjoyed reading it, and I regret that offense was taken by some where none needed to be taken.
Your post brought back numerous memories of when I (as a Republican :-)) picked up hitchhikers – mostly in the Northern Plains. Once in South Dakota, I picked up one who claimed to be an organizer of the Wounded Knee occupation. He discussed strategy with me, and he seemed to be on the up-and-up since I knew quite a bit about the event as I organized housing for the families who came to the trials for the defendants in Sioux Falls. Some hitchhikers were inspirational morale boosters, like the fellow who was hitchhiking from Corpus Christi on Palm Sunday to be with his family in Anchorage on Easter. I felt bad about leaving him near Brookings , S.D. at midnight. Another hitchhiker was visiting every county in the U.S. and was over half done when I gave him a ride. One time a pick up a guy just a couple of miles from the St. Cloud penitentiary. He explained that he was just released from jail that morning and he was trying to decide which of his three homes he wanted to visit. He talked about Christianity vs. his native tribe’s religion, and I just smiled thinking about how many stereotypes this guy was busting.
About 30 years ago, one of my hitchhikers became belligerent when I would not give him my last name, and I realized the seriousness of the risks I was taking – so that was the last time. Life is a little more boring, but the risks to me and my family are not worth it.
Nice cop-out Willis let me know when you wish to answer the question.