UPDATE: Part 3 added
It is said that if you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk. Monckton of Brenchley certainly has done both. There’s only one problem: pirates, and I’m not talking about Flying Spaghetti Monster comparisons. Josh explains:
But as we know, Monckton doesn’t go down easily:
There might be a part three coming.
UPDATE: Here it is! That’s one hot kraken.
I got the point about Lord Monckton’s post and I think it is a brilliant ploy; use the IPCC/team’s math and data against CAGW.
I was surprised at the number who didn’t get that it was a critique and not a case for ~1C rise for CO2 doubling.
St.Lucia is one of the Islands in the Caribbean that has a climate change policy, what I don’t know, I couldn’t be bothered to read their 39 page policy. Or the is a blogger called Lucia, that I believe supports him. Anyway, I thought the cartoons were funny, especially giving the finger
at the end while walking over a giant octopus. We have to keep our sense of humor.
Excellent series of cartoons. Again. And so apt. I wonder what Josh has LMB saying in the third part?
It has been an incredible exchange. I wonder what got Lucia so wound up, because this goes a lot deeper than one equation. Even Mosh and bender, who added absolutely nothing to the exchange, had to get their little insults in. They’ve all gone down in my estimation.
On the other hand LMB’s stock has risen dramatically. He has not only shown that he’s done the hard yards mathematically, his conduct has been a wonderful example of how to handle detractors. I wish I had half his vocabulary.
bushbunnysh says:
October 5, 2011 at 1:27 am
Anyway, I thought the cartoons were funny, especially giving the finger
at the end while walking over a giant octopus. We have to keep our sense of humor.
Seems unlikely that an Englishman would ‘give the finger’, the standard gesture there involves two fingers. 😉
paulhan:
Well said! There seems to be an element of jealousy in opponents response to Lord Monckton. I don’t really understand the vitrol reaction. Most of our famous scientists had aristocratic backgrounds, so that cannot be the reason alone. I am so grateful for his unrelenting, poking of warmist settled science.GK
While I like many things about Monckton, I find his arrogance a bit hard to take. His dispute with Lucia was for the most part a result of this arrogance.
Doug in Seattle says:
October 5, 2011 at 7:51 am
While I like many things about Monckton, I find his arrogance a bit hard to take. His dispute with Lucia was for the most part a result of this arrogance.
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Other way around. Lucia is the one that went after Monckton, first.
Where can I get the originals of these splendid cartoons? Of course, we Catholics can walk on water even without a monster of the deep to provide a firm footing. Next time, Josh, don’t forget the halo – oh, and the South-of-France suntan. A bientot!
REPLY: Josh is off for a week on family business, but I’ll pass your request on to him. He gerenally is happy to provide hi-res versions. – Anthony
Just love the Josh cartoons… LOL
Can’t understand why Lucia went for Lord Monckton so hard on this occasion as she usually accepts well reasoned arguments eventually. Perhaps she got out the wrong side of the bed, or was feeling a bit hormonal.
Ah well, he who laughs last laughs longest…
@Mosher
Fat chance
[SNIP: That really is a bit too personal and vitriolic. -REP]
@Tenuc
Nothing Lucia does makes any sense. She claims arctic ice is melting due to global warming, yet she won’t post the temperatures. If you ask her to post the temperatures, you will be banned from her site. If realclimate has any job openings, she would be a great candidate. Oh and ho ho ho, one more thing, Lucia thinks that ice isn’t supposed to melt. Truly. She keeps pretending that there is a record ice melt going on….just because satellite measurements started in 1979, doesn’t mean the ice hasn’t melted lower before. If her logic is permitted, a record would be broken every day. I just pissed in a toilet in a bathroom I’ve used before but not that toilet, wow, what a record. In short, I discourage anyone and everyone from visiting her site because she is perpetuating the myth.
[Reply: Robert, I think you are right. It’s my fault and I’ll take care of it. -REP]
Yeah anyone who is familiar with Blackboard would know that Lucia has a small troupe of brown nosing fanboys who defend everything she says. Don’t worry, the good doctor has caught Lucia’s tongue many times, which has resulted in my being banned. I’m sorry but if you’re going to run a site and focus on ice melt due to global warming, post the temperature or prepare to be thrashed. It’s quite hilarious, I’ve noticed Steve Goddard gets attacked for doing this very thing. Frankly I don’t think Lucia is worth the bug stuck in the gum on Monckton’s shoe.
Monckton and Planck vs. Monkton and Plank
Does the sea monster live on planckton?
Philip Bradley says:
October 5, 2011 at 1:20 am
I got the point about Lord Monckton’s post and I think it is a brilliant ploy; use the IPCC/team’s math and data against CAGW.
I was surprised at the number who didn’t get that it was a critique and not a case for ~1C rise for CO2 doubling.
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I am not that good at math any more (too rusty after 40 years) but I certainly saw that Lord Monckton was using the IPCC’s numbers and STILL doing a tap dance on them.
It was so elegant.
Actually Phil at 5 am 5 October. I doubt if Lord Monckton would stoop to such a vulgar expression. But one finger is a ‘up yours’ expression, and is quite a ‘common’ modern expression.
Two in the V palm facing backwards is Victory like what Churchill gave, two V palm outward is well something else. Not sure if that’s right but I’m sure Lord Monckton would not stoop to use any rude expressions, lashing with his tongue, yes.
That’s quite right Bunny @ur momisugly 12:42 , 6 Oct, MOB doesn’t do vulgarity. I’d hazard it’s the finger of inspiration, the forefinger raised in a gesture of realisation, as in ‘I have it’, while realing off some raft of statistics from the literature. Though I Guess only Josh can tell us what that last gesture is really about.
Bush bunny says:
October 6, 2011 at 12:42 am
Actually Phil at 5 am 5 October. I doubt if Lord Monckton would stoop to such a vulgar expression. But one finger is a ‘up yours’ expression, and is quite a ‘common’ modern expression.
Two in the V palm facing backwards is Victory like what Churchill gave, two V palm outward is well something else. Not sure if that’s right but I’m sure Lord Monckton would not stoop to use any rude expressions, lashing with his tongue, yes.
I believe you have those two definitions of the 2 fingered salute reversed. When I lived in the UK the 2 fingered version was universal and the single finger was unknown, maybe things are different now?