UPDATE2 10/18/2011 – The experiment has been replicated several ways, see:
UPDATE: New images added prove without a doubt the faked split screen. See below.
It has been over a week now since the Gore-a-thon aka “24 hours of climate reality”. The front page of the Climate Reality Project has changed from “live mode” to offering clips of video shown during the 24 hour presentation. Note the circled video on the front page below Mr. Gore. I’ve discovered that by watching carefully it reveals an “inconvenient truth” of the worst kind.
Analysis of this “Climate 101” video highlighted on Mr. Gore’s website is something I’ve been working on for the past week and a half. It has been carefully reviewed (with video graphics tools) and has been inspected by a number of science, engineering, and television professionals I’ve had review the video, my video captures, annotations, and writeup to be certain I have not missed anything or come to an erroneous conclusion. It also took me awhile to locate and get the items shipped to me to do the work I needed before I wrote this article. Now that I have them, and have done some simple replications to confirm my suspicions, I can write about them while presenting corroborating photographic evidence.
First, I wish to direct your attention to this video, produced by Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project titled “Climate 101”. I direct your attention to the 1 minute mark, lasting through 1:20. I suggest you click on the little X-arrow icon to expand full screen of the right of the slider tool bar, since this video is in high-definition and the details of my concerns require that higher resolution to view them properly.
It is worth watching a couple of times to get fully familiar with the sequence.
I’ve been in television broadcasting for over 20 years, and I’m quite familiar with editing tricks, I think I spotted more than a few in the video.
There are five scenes that appear, each an edit in that 20 second span of video during which an experiment is set up which supposedly demonstrates that CO2 in a heated jar causes that jar to be warmer than a second heated jar with ambient air in it.
In that 20 second span, I looked for things that changed, indicating that it wasn’t done in a continuous shot. I found evidence that the scene was changed at least three times, suggesting multiple takes.
The giveaways were that I saw objects change in the scene, most notably the CO2 tank, which has three different rotation positions. See the video captures from the Climate 101 video below, with my annotations. Note the position of the safety valve (1) and the label (2) change (click images for HD resolution):
Climate 101 scene @1:01 –
Climate 101 scene @1:05 –
Climate 101 scene @1:09 –
(UPDATE 10:27AM : spotted by commenter “mkelly” – note the thermometers are reversed in the 1:05 video capture versus the 1:09 video capture – note the green card mark on the thermometer scale as explained further in the story) So clearly, this wasn’t done in one take. By itself, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did make me wonder why for such a simple sequence (putting the tube in the jar) they had to have three separate edits.
Such a simple thing could surely have been accomplished in a single take. All they would have had to do was zoom the camera in/out as the actor did the work, then take the appropriate scenes from the single shot to the final cut. They could have done several continuous takes and chosen the best one, it just seemed odd they had to keep moving/rotating the bottle to do it. It made me wonder if the experiment maybe didn’t go so well and they had to keep trying it.
These scene discontinuities made me curious, and it made me look further to see what else might have been edited in such a way to reveal that what looks like a continuous flow of scenes…actually isn’t.
I’m glad I did.
Now I know there will be lots of arguments about whether this experiment is a valid test of CO2 greenhouse theory or not. It is deceptively simple, and it fits with the claims of it is “high school physics” made by Al Gore and others before and during the 24 hour Climate Reality Project. His specific claim was:
“The deniers claim that it’s some kind of hoax and that the global scientific community is lying to people,” he said. “It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.” – Al Gore in an interview with MNN 9/14/2011
Let’s put the arguments about applicability of the experiment aside for the moment, and just concentrate on what was presented in the experiment section of the video, because there is plenty to look at in the video with a skeptical eye.
One thing that caught my eye after I noticed the edits with the CO2 tank positions changing was the split screen scene with the thermometers side by side, one with temperature rising faster than the other. It is located starting at 1:10 in the video continuing to 1:17 it is the longest “continuous” scene in experiment section of the video, though we all know that thermometers don’t jump up in spurts like that.
I figured at first they just cut down a longer continuous scene, done with two cameras, so that it fit into the time allotted and then rotated from horizontal and edited them in split screen, which are tried and true techniques, and there’s nothing wrong with doing that.
But thanks to the fact that this was shot in HD video, and because I was able to expand the video to full resolution outside of the web page format bounding, I noticed something that gave me reason to doubt the veracity of this section of video. I suspected it had been faked, but it would take me some time and materials to prove it.
One thing that struck me was how clean the image of the two thermometers was. Remember this is an experiment where the two thermometers are placed inside two glass jars. A proper experimental procedure would be to film them while they are inside of the jars, experiencing the conditions of the experiment, in fact, they were presented just like that with a closeup at 1:02 in the video, you can actually read the thermometer scale:
Note this video capture at 1:02 looks quite different from the video at 1:17 showing the thermometers split screen. There are several differences:
1. Throughout the video from 1:00 to 1:20, the thermometers in the jar are shown horizontal, the split screen at 1:17 shows the thermometers vertical.
2. There’s a greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all.
3. The split screen thermometer scene has not a hint of the optical distortion seen at 1:02 in the video. Note that the thermometer scale is distorted by the glass, and if you look closely by expanding the video capture above to full resolution by clicking on it, you’ll see that the tick marks are distorted differently all along the scale. This is what you would expect from thick glass like the jar is made of.
I considered these possibilities for each point above:
1. That was editing to show the thermometers side by side, perfectly acceptable if the edit was done from combining two separate video streams filmed simultaneously on two cameras while the temperature was rising inside the jar. Cutting down the time is also acceptable, which would account for the “spurts”
2. They may have placed a paper or cardboard background behind the thermometers while filming in the jars to make the scales more visible and to remove visual clutter, but didn’t show it in the video. While using such backgrounds is understandable, not showing that you have done so is a bit of a no-no, but it isn’t a deal killer.
3. While I thought about it a lot, I couldn’t reconcile the glass caused optical distortion issue. Why was it missing from the split screen thermometer scene? I decided I couldn’t answer the question without getting my hands on the objects and re-creating the optical situation with a camera.
That took some doing, because Al’s “high school physics” experiment didn’t come with a bill of materials and list of suppliers. So, in my spare time I started looking for the jars, the thermometers, and the globes so that I could exactly recreate the experiment scene.
I found them all, thanks to Google visual image search and Ebay.
Replicating the scene – materials:
Anchor Hocking Cookie Jar with Lid http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=187543
Geratherm Oral Thermometer Non-Mercury
http://www.pocketnurse.com/Geratherm-Oral-Thermometer-Non-Mercury/productinfo/06-74-5826/
Globe Coin Bank
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150661053386
It took a few days for everything to arrive from the three different suppliers, here they are all together on my desk at work, I actually bought two sets:
What I wanted to do was to recreate the closeup shot like we see in the video at 1:02 to see if I saw similar optical distortions, then see if there was any way that I could get a clear closeup view of the thermometer scale like we see in the split screen at 1:10-1:17.
My theory was that the thermometers aren’t actually in the jar when they were photographed for the split screen.
Checking for optical aberrations:
I used a piece of double-sided foam tape to affix the thermometer:
Here’s a closeup of the thermometer affixed to the globe. Note how clear and distortion free the scale is.
Here’s my attempts at photography of the thermometer inside the jar. I had a lot of trouble getting focused on the thermometer scale due to the autofocus mechanism being distracted by the glass which is in the foreground. Note that you can see the optical aberrations caused by the glass on the thermometer scale. The scale is not straight and the tick marks are also distorted.
Here’s another photo – I could not get the macro view focus right due to the glass confusing the autofocus sensor:
I decided that my camera was inadequate for this particular task, so I called in a someone who has a professional camera with a high quality professional lens capable of manual focus and macro function. It is a far cry from my little Kodak Easy Share Z1012 used to make the photos above:
- Camera – Canon 1D Mark IV
- Lens – Canon MACRO 100mm 1:2.8 L IS USM
Just as I did with my clunky little Kodak camera, the photographer had a lot of trouble getting a clear shot through the glass. Below is a collection of shots done by that photographer at different distances and focus settings on the professional camera. Note that I also rotated the jar to see is different sections made anything clearer. Click any thumbnail to enlarge it (warning large download ~ 10MB each)
The professional photography setup also could not capture an image through the glass jar that looked as clear as what was shown by my photo with the thermometer outside the glass, or as clear as the split screen images presented in the Climate 101 video from 1:10 to 1:17. I invite readers to inspect the images above carefully, examine the EXIF data of the unedited original JPEG images presented at the native resolution of the Canon 1D camera at 4296×3264 pixels and examine for yourselves if it is possible to shoot the thermometer scale through the glass and get an image that is free from any distortions.
Neither I nor the professional photographer could get a clear image through the jar glass that matched the clarity of the thermometer scales seen in the split screen, so I am forced to conclude that in the split screen scene from 1:10 to 1:17 on the Climate 101 video, the thermometers are not in the jars.
But wait, there’s more.
The background behind the thermometers:
Remember point 2 above where I was concerned about the greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video from 1:00 to 1:20? Well, there’s something odd about that too. The background appears identical in both sides of the split screen. What first tipped me off was a speck on the thermometer.
Here’s a video capture from the start of the split screen sequence. I’ve highlighted something I found curious, a speck on the thermometer scale that appears on both thermometers:
At first I thought it was dust, but then I realized that wasn’t possible, as dust would NOT appear identically on both thermometers in the split screen. I surmised it might be a manufacturing defect, printed on the scale. Fortunately, I have two thermometers from the same manufacturer that I can compare to. Here’s my closeup of them:
Nope, no speck, so it isn’t a manufacturing defect common to all thermometers.
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Side note: Note above in the thermometer closeup how the scales are offset, this is due to the manufacturer hand calibrating these glass thermometers by trimming the card with the scale printed on it so 98.6 lines up with the top of the fluid line when the thermometers are placed in the temperature test well. Glassblowing is an inexact science, and each thermometer must be calibrated by a technician, then sealed. You can see how the cards don’t match here:
We can see this in the Climate 101 video also:
The green section of the card for the scale is clearly different lengths as part of the trimming process for calibration, so clearly we have two different thermometers.
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OK, back to the main issue.
In addition to the identical speck on the two thermometer scales, I noted several other identical specks and aberrations in the split screen video. I’ve listed them by number on two video captures below from two different times in the video (click images to enlarge for best viewing):
Climate 101 video @1:10 –
Climate 101 video @1:16 –
I have 8 labeled points that are identical between each frame @1:10 and @ 1:16 In fact they are identical on every video frame from 1:10 to 1:17. The only thing that changes is the blue liquid in the thermometer tube.
- Dots on left top glass edge match exactly
- Speck on right top glass edge matches exactly
- Smudge/discoloration near number “38” on scale matches exactly
- Speck in background matches exactly
- Speck near number 98 on scale matches exactly
- Tick mark pattern near number “36” matches exactly
- Smudge in background matches exactly
- Reflective highlight in glass tube matches exactly
- While not numbered, note how the background shading matches exactly
Conclusions
With 9 points of agreement between the two images through all video frames there is only one possible conclusion:
The split screen is showing the same piece of video, shot by a single camera and edited to make it appear as two separate pieces of video with two separate thermometers. All that is required is to apply edits along different portions of the timeline. It is the same video shot by the same camera on each side of the split screen.
Summary of what was discovered:
- The video of the experiment showing filling of the jar with CO2 was shot in multiple takes because the CO2 cylinder has three different positions between 1:00 and 1:10. It suggests the experiment didn’t go smoothly and had to be repeated.
- The thermometers in the split screen appear not to have been filmed through the glass of the jars, because the split screen video contains no optical aberrations of any kind. Neither myself nor the photographer with professional gear was able to get clear shots through the jar glass that equaled the clarity of the thermometer scales shown in the split screen video. This strongly suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video showing temperature rise.
- The greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all, and not in the jars, suggesting it was used only for that scene, which also suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video sequence.
- The video of the split screen shows two identical backgrounds, and two identical thermometers with 9 points of exact agreement in the backgrounds and the thermometers. Clearly the split screen contains two copies of the same video from one camera, edited in the timeline to make the liquid in the thermometer rise at different rates.
The only conclusion one can make from these four points is that the video of the “simple experiment” is a complete fabrication done in post production.
I’ve double checked my work, and I’ve had other people look at this video and the points I make and they see the same issues. They concur the video of the experiment was fabricated using editing techniques too.
While everyone can make mistakes (I know, I’ve made some big ones myself), this isn’t a case of a simple mistake, its a production that had to have been screened and approved before releasing it. It is mind blowing that this video, which was intended to be shown to millions of people (recall that Mr. Gore’s claim was 8.6 million views), was not clearly identified as an illustration or artistic license and not a true record of an experiment if that was their intent. Yet, they invite viewers to try replicating it themselves.
This level of fabrication on something that is so simple makes me wonder. Mr. Gore claimed in the MNN interview on 9/14 that:
“It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.”
Why then, does Mr. Gore’s organization go to such lengths to fabricate the presentation of the “simple high school physics experiment” they say proves the issue in that venue? Perhaps they couldn’t get the experiment to work properly using the materials chosen? Maybe it might not be so easy to perform at home after all? Maybe a few controls are necessary such as the Mythbusters team used in the video below. Why else would they need to fake it in post?
Even if Mr. Gore and his team wanted to claim “artistic license” for editing the video for the experiment, why would they do so if it is so easy to replicate and do yourself? The narrator, Bill Nye the Science Guy actually invites people to do so at about 0:46 in the video. Why not simply do the experiment and record the results for all to see? Of course a one word lower third caption on the video at that point saying “DRAMATIZATION” would be all that was needed to separate a real experiment from one fabricated in post production – but they didn’t do that. I’ve watched the film several times, checked the audio, and the credits at the end. There is no mention nor notice of any dramatization regarding the “simple experiment” segment that I can find.
If Mr. Gore’s team actually performed the experiment and has credible video documenting the success of his simple “high school physics” exercise, I suggest that in the interest of clarity, now is the time to make it available.
About the experiment:
So far all I’ve concentrated on is the stagecraft I observed. It’s clearly obvious that the split screen scene with thermometers was not filmed inside the cookie jars. I’ve established that it is a staged production from start to finish and the split screen of two thermometers but was edited from a continuous video of a single thermometer with temperature rising then frame sequences were inserted out of order to compose each side of the split screen.
Of course the whole Climate 101 CO2 experiment is questionable to begin with, because it doesn’t properly emulate the physical mechanisms involved in heating our planet. Note the heat lamps used, likely one of these based on the red color we see in the lamp fixture:
Heat lamps like this produce visible red light and short wave infrared (SWIR is 1.4-3 µm wavelength). As we know from the classic greenhouse effect, glass blocks infrared so none of the SWIR was making it into the cookie jar. All that would do is heat the glass. John Tyndall’s 1850’s experiments used rock salt windows, which transmit infrared, for exactly that reason. Adding insult to injury, CO2 has no SWIR absorption bands. What CO2 does have though is higher density than air. The gas in the cookie jars was primarily heated by conduction in contact with the SWIR-heated glass.
Moreover, the CO2 injection in one cookie jar would raise it from 0.04% CO2 to very near 100% CO2 which is hardly comparable to the atmosphere going from 0.03% to 0.04% CO2 during the industrial age. Gore’s team provides no indication of the concentration of CO2 in the jar, that’s hardly scientific. Here’s how current greenhouse theory works:

All that said, in principle it does demonstrate that CO2 absorbs long wave infrared (LWIR 8–15 µm). Energy would likely be transmitted into the gas through conduction with the heated glass (which would likely get very hot) and it would then re-radiate inside the cookie jar as LWIR, and cause the CO2 jar to heat up faster and higher. But this is hardly news. The LWIR absorptive characteristics of many different gases under different pressures and mixtures was experimentally verified in thousands of experiments performed by Tyndall 150 years ago.

This characteristic of CO2 is the theory of operation for millions of CO2 sensors routinely employed in commercial buildings with high occupancy rates to determine when ventilation fans should turn on and off to exhaust the CO2 buildup from a lot of people breathing the same air in a confined space.
So while some might say the stagecraft involved in the Climate 101 presentation wasn’t dishonest it was most assuredly staged with great literary license and dramatization of an effect that was experimentally verified elsewhere with far greater precision and attention to replicating the real world.
I should make it clear that I’m not doubting that CO2 has a positive radiative heating effect in our atmosphere, due to LWIR re-radiation, that is well established by science. What I am saying is that Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project did a poor job of demonstrating an experiment, so poor in fact that they had to fabricate portions of the presentation, and that the experiment itself (if they actually did it, we can’t tell) would show a completely different physical mechanism than what actually occurs in our atmosphere.
If Mr. Gore wants to convince the world, he’d do far better at emulating the Mythbusters TV show; show all the materials, steps, measurement, and results like they do.
As it stands, the video fabrications in the “simple experiment” by Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project is no better than the stagecraft done by Senator Tim Wirth turning off the air conditioning (to make it hot in the room) when Dr. James Hansen testified before lawmakers in June 1988 about CO2 being a problem.
The public, and especially young budding scientific minds, deserve better than stagecraft.
Of course LWIR radiative CO2 heat retention is only a small part of the global warming issue. There are still raging debates over climate sensitivity, uncertainty, feedbacks, and most recently whether clouds provide positive or negative feedbacks in our atmosphere.
But from my point of view, if everything is so certain, the science so settled, why does Mr. Gore resort to these cheap stagecraft tricks to convince people?
UPDATE: In comments, Mariss Freimanis runs a Photoshop difference analysis, proving the split screen image is the same. He emailed his analysis to me, shown below.


From Mariss
1) I have attached ‘analysis_before’ which is a cropped shot of your original with it’s circles and arrows.
2) The ‘analysis_right_thermo’ is the right thermometer overlaid already positioned to overlay the the left thermometer.
3) The ‘image_analysis_after’ shows the results of subtracting away the right overlay from the underlying left image.
Comments:
1) The attached jpegs are reasonably sized in the sense that they don’t throw away any information. The ‘after’ image black area still contains some residual ‘non-black’ background noise from the subtraction process. This is largely due to my choice of a times-4 repixelation of the original. The image offset was not precisely 0.25 pixels so it reflects some residual image alignment errors.
2) This method reveals minute differences between two images. For the background to be as featureless as it is, it requires both thermometer’s reflections to be identically lit from the exact same light source angle (parallel ray source), their seemingly identical mottled green backgrounds to actually be identical and of course, the thermometers would have to have exactly the same ‘fingerprint’ flaws. It would take one hell of a telephoto lens to see both thermometers from exactly the same perspective. This is inconceivable.
3) The 0.25 pixel offset drift is significant because it reveals the same thermometer was used to sequentially film the composite image. Little things change with time such as thermal expansion. It marks the passage of time. That drift indicates they weren’t filmed simultaneously.
For those that might be concerned about the images above not being full resolution HD and having annotations, here’s the before and after difference image at 1:17 in the video:


Note the only thing that changes is the fluid level and the reflection of it (thin line to the right) in the glass tube. This proves the “result” split screen is the same image, not two thermometers showing results.







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Glacierman: Thanks for the link.
Here you all can see what was Gores worst mistake and why he had to fake his experiment.
He didn´t seal the bottles.
http://myweb.cableone.net/carlallen/Site/Greenhouse%20In%20A%20Bottle-Reconsidered.html
Once again the entire focus of CAGW is on greenhouse effect of CO2 which is true – a fact. All these scientists who believe in greenhouse effect are right – it is true and it is real.
The travesty is that the leap from CO2 is a greenhouse gas to the assumption that this will cause global warming is FAULTY. To me this is the real travesty. To me it is this UNPROVEN leap of logic that is typical of high school educated people. Dumb dumb dumb.
The real world is much more complex and it is actually NOT simple high school physics to make the additional leap.
The ONLY true statement is that ALL things equal then CO2 will cause some slight warming. And the truth is that things simple aren’t all equal. Things are actually exceedingly complex – particularly considering convection and the water vapor and clouds cycle.
Ever notice that applying more and more heat to a pot of boiling water does NOT raise the temperature of the water. Now that is a simple high school physics experiment that clearly demonstrates that more heat does NOT raise water temperature above boiling point! It seems counterintuitive until one realizes that latent heat can move gargantuan amounts of energy around. The same thing happens in the atmosphere – the water cycle plays a MASSIVE influence on temperatures transporting energy around, cooling here and warming somewhere else.
Sadly the whole CAGW scare is down to some second rate scientists who have actually convinced enough people that simple high school physics can actually explain what is going on in reality. This is a lie!
Dave Springer:
I was not and am not talking about gravitational compression. Your argument is veering into strawman territory. That whole discussion is for another time and place.
Does the greenhouse in a bottle “experiment” show a greenhouse effect, or compressional heating in a closed system?
Dave Springer says:
September 28, 2011 at 9:59 am
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Dave
What is your expnation as to why when the experiment was done with a vented top, there was no difference between the temperature rise/profile of the CO2 filled jar and the air filled jar?
As regards the compression point, is it not the case that a gas which is compressed would keep its temperature indefinitely if well enough insulated from its surroundings? Alternatively, if some small amount of energy was inputted which was sufficient to neutralise the heat loss.
For example, a metal container (which is a good conductor of heat) is filled with air at room temperature at say 20degC. It is then compressed until it reaches 150deg C and sealed (with a perfect seal) at that pressure. The metal container is left to stand in the room and eventually, the gas in the container cools to room temperature, ie., back to 20 degC. However if you repeat that experiment but once the container is sealed it is placed in a room at 150 degC, the gas in the metal container never loses temperature. It does not revert to the 20deg C at which it started.
The real issue here is whether the air at the surface is in effect constantly and repeatedly being compressed.. Perhaps by, for example, the passing over of the atmospheric bulge and/or work is being done by the passing over of the atmospheric bulge and whether heat is generated as a by product of that process. If it is, this process may be sufficient to maintain the heat that was generated by gravitaional compression.
Consider also, if I had a flat tyre and I was to inflate this to say 30psi, the air in the tyre would become warm. If I leave the tyre to stand, it will eventually cool to ambient temperature. However, if after inflating the tyre, I was to immediately drive my car, the heat in the tyre would be maintained simply by the slight flexing of the side wall of the tyre. The work done in that process would be sufficient to maintain the temperature that was initially created by compression.
In summary, I do not think that it is quite as simple as you seek to suggest and there may be other processes going on in the atmosphere which help maintain the temperature initially brought about by gravitaional pressure/compression.
kim says: “Did they think this would convince people? Did they think no one would try it? Maybe Bill Nye is a stealth skeptic.”
There was a report on CNN Headline News a number of years ago in which Bill Nye questioned anthropogenic global warming. I watched it live. I have not been able to find it online.
bravo Anthony!
the hits keep coming on wuwt!
Thanks so much for your work in exposing this ongoing hoax, Anthony.
And since you now have two surplus glass jars, I decided to send a tip to help fill them to allow you to continue your fine work.
Hopefully, others here will do the same.
Ha ha. I’m a mini – Anthony Watts.
Take a look at the video that you posted. Watch the CO2 bottle from the 58 second mark until the 1:04 mark. Notice that the cap on the CO2 bottle magically appears to have been placed on the bottle during those 6 seconds! She didn’t mention doing that at all despite the fact that the audio appears uncut.
I’m left wondering if her experiment failed to work with the cap off. In fact, I’m wondering if the air bottle (with the cap off) heated more than the CO2 bottle (with the cap on). This might provide support for glacierman’s video It’s possible that the extra warming is due to the fact that the pressure in the CO2 bottle increases more than the pressure inside the air bottle.
Anthony:
I’m not sure if it has been mentioned, but is it possible the lid produce a focusing effect onto the “properly situated” thermometer? Normal glass does not transmit MWIR or LWIR but let the NIR. Those big red IR lamp are strong NIR emitter.
It seem to me that in Video @1:09, the body of right “instance” of thermometer look like under more intense irradiance level than left “instance”. I think it is reasonable to assume that the more visible red we see, the more NIR will be present in that case. From the picture, it seem the right one has a lot more red light on it !?
Sure, it is mostly the body that is conveniently exposed & not the reservoir of the thermometer, but the effect may still be important.
REPLY: it might be important if the thermometers showing the temperature rise were actually in the jar, but it appears they were not – Anthony
Recently some interesting theories surfaced at El Reg (http://www.theregister.co.uk/) regarding signal analysis of video http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/01/enf_met_police/
Using modern DSP it is possible to see the unique interference on the mains frequence (60Hz in the USA) which not only give an absolute time stamp but also an indication of the location.
So assuming at least the lights were running of ‘normal’ mains feed; it should be possible to use a very good DSP filter to pull any induced signal on the video from the 60Hz signal burried in the light source fluctuations. My understanding of the technique is that to see if frames are in the correct sequence you would be able to ‘see’ the imposed signals on the 60Hz carrier. These should of course be sequential; frame to frame; so some fairly simple analysis (Fourirer transform ?) should show up any discontinuities caused by missing frames or non sequential frames.
This may also prove that the thermometer sequence in the split framaes are in fact the same sequence in both frames
Of course it’s not main stream tech (yet ?) and I believe we are looking at the 60Hz signal being some 100dB down on the main viseo signal; with the imposed fluctuations some 100dB down on that ! Not trivial; and I don’t know if its reached any of the amateur electronic communities yet – may be some one on WUWT knows a bit more about this ?
Betting the 2011-2012 will end AGW. The NH ice is looking ominous for returning to normal or above extent
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
Its the earliest consistent rise on the DMI record
Temps at UAH aint looking to hot either LOL
I have another experiment to show the destructive forces of CO2. Place a piece of solid CO2 in a bottle, add water……here is the important part – then put a cap on the bottle. What happens? It absorbs so much radiant energy that it blows the conainer apart. Well, thats what I saw./sarc.
I really is worse than we thought.
Anthony!!!!!
Damn nice job! I’ve taught and produced training videos for large corporations, and have no issues with dramatizing for learning sake to take a point and, ummm – expand it so it’s memorable is acceptable – but that doesn’t include lying.. The objective is to teach something important. If I were asked to video the results of an experiment, I would use a different ethics approach to assure what I presented is what actually happened – similar to court testimony.
Time code (the actual time the camera is shooting would be on the screen as a simple proof that what’s being presented occured at some specific time) or a clock if the experiment were time sensitive. This is a simple production tool as you know.
The difference between drama for instruction and drama for propaganda is the intent and use of the product. Seems many in the AGW camp have adopted an attitude of “The end justifies the means.” A sad day for teachers and videographers.
Mike
I don’t think a mere temperature gradient between a heat source and a heat sink is a thorough explanation of what is occurring.
Remember what temperature actually is. Temperature is a measure of amount of molecular activity.
10 gas molecules in a jar (a very small jar) with a certain amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature of X.
20 gas molecules in the same jar with the same amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature greater than X.
Certainly, you agree.
3. Smudge/discoloration near number “38″ on scale matches exactly
To be fair, that smudge also seems to match your thermometers, Anthony.
pwl says:
September 28, 2011 at 1:45 pm
“The experiment in the video “Greenhouse effect (in a bottle) explained” that R Gates posted above is flawed since it’s not the “greenhouse effect” that is causing the temperature rise in the bottle of CO2, it’s the “Heat of Compression” of the CO2 that causes the heat rise. Poke a hole in the top of the lids and the air and co2 would have the same heat rise graph as each other. See: “Greenhouse In A Bottle-Reconsidered”, http://myweb.cableone.net/carlallen/Site/Greenhouse%20In%20A%20Bottle-Reconsidered.html.”
The cableone experiment isn’t valid either. It isn’t sensitive enough for such a small volume of gas to surface area of the heat sink.
The Mythbusters experiment is much better:
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRd5GT0v0I ]
This uses carefully measured gas levels, light level, and chambers with thousands of times more gas in them. Only 1C difference is recorded. As one can see from the construction of the chambers they are not pressure-tight so there is no compressional heating being recorded.
“Remember what temperature actually is. Temperature is a measure of amount of molecular activity.
10 gas molecules in a jar (a very small jar) with a certain amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature of X.
20 gas molecules in the same jar with the same amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature greater than X.”
I can only assume that you’re taking the piss here?
Which has the higher temperature a litre of boiling water or a gallon of boiling water, bearing in mind both, by definition, have the same amount of ‘molecular activity’ [I’d have gone for average kinetic energy] per molecule.
Well done, Anthony. I’ve helped Cub Scouts with scientific demonstrations, graded science-fair projects and have my own little tricks that I use to demonstrate scientific principles.
Gore flunks, you pass with an “A.”
For those still arguing about gravitational compression, see here:
http://judithcurry.com/2010/11/30/physics-of-the-atmospheric-greenhouse-effect/#comment-16901
The rise and fall of the atmosphere is driven by convection. It is hotter at the equator than the poles, so air at the equator rises and then descends further north/south. The continual cycle keeps the air moving, and thus maintains the adiabatic lapse rate. It’s standard theory.
I’m with Monckton; this is a now verified attempt to deceive and gain benefit by deception – 100% snake oil salesmen. Throw the book at them, please!
Given what has been found I seriously doubt the experiment was ‘ran’ at all – its seems they just went through the motions and filmed a thermometer whilst putting something warm on it. Really need to see the pre-edits..
I found my comments on the Fake Climate 101 demonstration:
The fake Climate 101 demonstration.
Now lets look at the Junk science experiment you referenced by Climate 101 narrated by Bill Nye. I have seen this many times before , including a supposed Ph. D thesis by a student at the University of Bremen. There are no less than 5 errors than show that it is” Not A creditable experiment that proves that the “greenhouse gas effect exists”.
1. The experiment demonstrates “confined space heating” aka “greenhouse effect” not the “greenhouse gas effect.” This is were the work of R.W.Wood 1909 and Dr. N Nahle 2011, come into play.
2. The experiment of Climate 101 is carried out in glass containers. It is a known fact that glass absorbs IR radiation and heats up therefore a significant amount of the heating measured is from the glass containers on CO2 and the air in the other container.
3. CO2 does not heat up when it absorbs IR radiation. The Video on Climate Change makes the statement that you can not repeal the Laws of Physics, well if the video says that the CO2 heats up it violates the Bohr Model that has been established as a Law of Physics in 1922-23 when Niels Bohr received a Nobel Prize.
4. When someone decided to include thermometers inside the glass containers and have the IR light shining on it is a Nincompoop. Put a thermometer outside the glass containers and shine the IR lights on it, it will heat up as much or more than the thermometers inside the glass containers.
5. The same Nincompoop that put the thermometer inside the containers put the small globes inside the container increased the heating of the “confined space heating”aka “greenhouse effect”. Objects that have IR shined on them will heat up,thus heating the CO2 or the air by conduction.
6. The picture frames with the thermometers side by side appears to be the same thermometer and not the same as the thermometer inside the glass containers. It appears that a different thermometer was heated up and photographed at different times to give the effect of different rates of heating. Not a very scientific proof of an effect.
7. The experiment by Climate 101 shows that the hose with CO2 is stuck under the cover while doing the experiment while the cover on the air container is closed – not the same conditions, bad experimental procedure. They do not say whether the CO2 is allowed to fill the container before they start the test. Do they continue to feed in CO2 during the test? Again bad procedure.
8. If they wanted to tell the truth (which they do not) they would fill a clear Mylar balloon with CO2 then shine the IR on it and use an IR thermometer to measure temperatures. There will be no increase in temperature of the CO2 , this test has been done many times.
9. The fact that the air in one container heated up shows that the experiment is not doing what it is supposed to do. There is nothing in the AGW fairy-tale book that says that ordinary air is supposed to heat up when IR is passed through it but here we have the air heating almost as much as the CO2. Something is wrong with the “greenhouse gas effect” theory- it does not exist. As stated above this is demonstration “confined space heating” and nothing else.
originally posted on LinkedIN 9-17-2011 under Environmental Activists-
Gores experiment is obviously crap.
If the idea is to simply demonstrate to the public that CO2 is an excellent absorber of IR radiation then this demonstration would have been much better:
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYfl45X1wo ]
wobble says:
September 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm
“Remember what temperature actually is. Temperature is a measure of amount of molecular activity.”
I don’t need to remember, but you need to learn. Temperature is the average amount of motion in a large number of atoms or molecules.
“10 gas molecules in a jar (a very small jar) with a certain amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature of X.
20 gas molecules in the same jar with the same amount of molecular activity per molecule will have a temperature greater than X.
Certainly, you agree.”
No I don’t agree. That is dead wrong. You are counting total kinetic energy in the entire system whereas temperature is the average kinetic energy per unit of mass.