Got some vikes, AB, and a nap for my ear infection, decided to check email, found a link to this poll so figured I’d better pass it on. I was surprised.
Here’s question 88:
88. Which statement comes closest to your view about global warming? 1. Global warming is caused mostly by human activity such as burning fossil fuels or 2. Global warming is caused mostly by natural patterns in the earth’s environment. or 3. Global warming does not exist.
And here’s the results:
12 percent don’t think global warming exists. 42 percent say it’s man-made and 33 percent say it’s natural. 7 percent say it is a mixture of both, and 6 percent are in the “I dunno” or didn’t answer category. With only 42 percent saying it is human caused, that puts it in the minority view.
But what I think is even more telling is the fact that it didn’t even show up on the radar in question 3, which asks:
I’m sure “global warming” was in there somewhere, perhaps in the 14 percent of “other” responses seen near the end, but even with Al Gore’s recent media event to try to bring it to the forefront again, it appears to have had zero effect. Also telling: “Environment” gets less than 1 percent.
It’s jobs and economy which get the lions share of concern, which just goes to show that if people are poor, out of work, and hungry, they don’t have time to worry about elitist causes like Al Gore’s global warming crusade.
The poll with all questions is here: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/250094/new-york-times-cbs-poll-results.pdf
The NYT news story on it is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/us/politics/obamas-support-is-slipping-poll-finds-but-his-jobs-plan-is-well-received.html?_r=1
I couldn’t find an address for Al’s Montecito property but judging from the pictures @ur momisugly http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/photos-al-goree-new-8875_n_579286.html#s91252 I think I found a match on Google Earth @ur momisugly 34 degrees 26 minutes 51.81 seconds North 119 degrees 37 minutes 42.82 seconds West @ur momisugly an elevation of 509 feet; not even Al has exaggerated sea level rise to that level.
Al’s too heavily invested in CAGW to abandon it IMO.
The only way to fix the economy and create more jobs is to start using out own energy resources: instead of pissing our money away on toys and foreign oil.
In San Diego, I’m pointing out that the supposedly accelerating rise in sea level just isn’t shown in the observed data. And I’m taking my info from NOAA, not some evil “denialist” group.
Supposedly, San Diego’s sea level will rise by 12 to 18 inches by 2050, from its 2000 level. We’re 11 years into the projection, and sea level as measured off the coast of La Jolla has risen less than 1 inch. That’s a pro-rated rise of less than 5 inches by 2050.http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/17/cbs-news-new-york-times-poll-shows-the-public-has-mostly-given-up-on-global-warming-and-the-environment/#comment-form-load-service:Facebook
Also, watch for a verrrrrry interesting new AGW study. It’s under embargo until 10 am PDT Sunday, or I’d say more. Anthony will have fun with it.
Best wishes for ear health, Anthony.
Przemysław Pawełczyk
Tell me then how much relevant they are, the polls?
Very relevant, because it’s difficult to pass “draconian” regulations without support from the voters.
Do the participants know the subject from schools or WUWT pages or what they have learned from MSM (mainstream media)?
Don’t know, but I would like to.
Polls’ results are relevant?
Again, yes, the science is settled that we must act now scare tactic is failing to incite the public to “force” politicians into economically disastrous regulations and that is GOOD.
C’mon! Do not soap my eyes, please.
Well, I wouldn’t.
This means that they will have to find a new crisis.
I suspect it will be: CO2 is causing the Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis.
John W says:
September 17, 2011 at 7:14 pm
🙂
Regards
Those of us who pan catastrophic global warming are actually smart enough to keep worrying about clean water in undeveloped countries, clean air in developing countries, and homelessness now becoming evident even on Rodeo Drive. The mass of lemings following the likes of Hansen are not even close to being true environmentalists.
Richard Sharpe said
“This means that they will have to find a new crisis.
I suspect it will be: CO2 is causing the Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis.”
Close. Anthropogenic CO2 vilification has caused Global Financial Crisis.
What those silly fools on the left just don’t understand is that their environmental concerns are a narcissistic luxury of the rich. A person who cannot feed, house, or cloth his family doesn’t give a damn about little reptiles in the oil fields of west Texas. If they (the Eco-Nazis) destroy the economy, the environment will become as bad as it was in the Communist countries. Wealth leads to a better environment.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)
BigWaveDave says:
September 17, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Richard Sharpe said
“This means that they will have to find a new crisis.
I suspect it will be: CO2 is causing the Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis.”
Close. Anthropogenic CO2 vilification has caused Global Financial Crisis.
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Oh, just wait for it! Can’t you just see the analysis pieces on the news?
“…since the government cancelled funding for AGW research, tens of thousands of people have been thrown out of work world wide. the community of XXXXX has been hard hit in particular. Over 25% of the jobs in XXXXX were directly or indirectly related to AGW research… Wannabe Ananchor reports from XXXXX…”
“Yes Tom, I’m here with Dr Worser Thanwethought, whose entire career has been in climate research. Now he’s trying to feed a family of four by ecking out a living as a taxi driver. Worser, this must be very hard on you and your family…”
“You have no idea Wannabe. Its like suddenly I’m not qualified for anything. Just today I got chewed out by a client who refused to pay the $86.00 fair. They claimed the meter said $22.00 and that’s all they owed me. What is it with these people? Are they professional taxi drivers? Do they have any training? Don’t they understand how specialized taxi meter reading is? Do they think they can just get in a cab and interpret the meter themselves? I’m a PhD professor for crying out loud, what right do they have to question me like that? And then they wanted to see the rate card. The rate card! That’s DATA! You can’t just give a rate card to someone with no training and let them calculate the fair themselves, that’s ridiculous. They’ll just try and prove my numbers wrong, so why should I let them have it? ”
“Well uhm……..uhm….. back to you Tom.”
Doug says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:07 pm
If a poll existed that showed that a majority of people believed that global warming was a significant problem, would that make the SCIENCE stronger?
You heathen, everyone knows it’s spelled “SCIENCE!”‘.
Get with the program, why don’t you?
Back in the Carter years when inflation, unemployement and interest rates were all in double digits, and the environmentalists were screaming about the next ice age that they said was coming soon, the saying among the working class was, “if you are poor, out of work, tired and hungry, eat an environmentalist”.
When the global warming fans started their campaign the US was riding high and perhaps it looked like price was no object. Now 20 or 30 years later the country has gone bust. Growth of one percent not six and unemployment officially over nine percent. This poll, while not at all surprising should send a message to the politicians that the time to bleed the public in the name of saving the planet has passed and won’t be back soon.
Hopefully the poll will highlight to the editors of the NY Times that many readers aren’t swallowing the CAGW line that the NY Times and its relatives like to push…and the other readers don’t really care. Perhaps the NY Times might look at the evidence for and against CAGW with a more critical eye and not devote space to obviously crap alarmist press releases that support a policy argument rather than a scientific determination.
Did anyone see that pig just fly past my window?
For those who wish to use their view of the “science” to move the political football one way or another for their team, the results of such public polls must be encouraging or discouraging, depending in which team you’re on. For others, perhaps its all too depressing and sign of the sad state of America and the pending dark ages…
Canadians still believe in the global warming lies. They’ve swallowed the koolaid big time. Saint Suzuki has brainwashed the country into economic suicide. Canadians have trouble thinking for themselves and believe what the media tells them to believe. It’s all quite pathetic. The only bright spot is we have a Prime Minister who – while not having the balls to call global warming the hoax it is – behind the scenes at least scuttles the waco environmentalist plans to destroy the Canadian economy.
R. Gates says:
September 17, 2011 at 9:05 pm
For those who wish to use their view of the “science” to move the political football one way or another for their team>>>
You crack me up. Coming from you, that comment is positively hilarious.
R. Gates…
Are you using quotes from another source or just only allowed to have one theme each day? Your football comment is very similar to your comment on another thread. Struck me as humourous.
As far as the dark ages, it will exist as soon as we allow a small group to control the masses. It doesn’t much matter if it is a group of self-important scientists, A religious council, A dictator or a “for the people” socialist party. When a small group demands obidience without question, thats the dark ages.
davidmhoffer says:
September 17, 2011 at 9:43 pm
R. Gates says:
September 17, 2011 at 9:05 pm
For those who wish to use their view of the “science” to move the political football one way or another for their team>>>
You crack me up. Coming from you, that comment is positively hilarious.
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Your comment would imply that you know anything about me, which you don’t, so your comment falls into the meaningless category.
Brandon Caswell says:
September 17, 2011 at 10:06 pm
R. Gates…
Are you using quotes from another source or just only allowed to have one theme each day? Your football comment is very similar to your comment on another thread. Struck me as humourous.
As far as the dark ages, it will exist as soon as we allow a small group to control the masses. It doesn’t much matter if it is a group of self-important scientists, A religious council, A dictator or a “for the people” socialist party. When a small group demands obidience without question, thats the dark ages.
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I would suggest that “dark ages” mean just that…an age in which the light of reason is dimmed by the darkness of anti-reason, whatever the source. No group is needed to “control the masses”, as they are quite capable of finding their own paths to dim their light of reason. The “dark ages” are not a political process, but a psychological and sociological one that may in turn be manifested in a politcal and/or religious environment.
“Rosy’s dad says:
September 17, 2011 at 8:56 pm
When the global warming fans started their campaign the US was riding high and perhaps it looked like price was no object. Now 20 or 30 years later the country has gone bust. ”
At that time the OPEC nations needed $$, so they started pumping more oil, and as they did the price fell, so they had to pump more oil, and the price feel even more, until it ended up at $12.50 a barrel in the Clinton years. Those were boom years. Then oil went up and as it did, the economy went into the tank.
Want to solve unemployment in the US, take steps to drive down energy prices. Want to reward loyal cronies while pretending to create jobs, announce a stimulus package.
R. Gates says:
September 17, 2011 at 9:05 pm
That’s exactly what they said in the 70’s, the 50’s, the 30’s, the Teens, and the 1890’s.
Except we won’t be going just to the Dark Ages, we will be going to the Dark Ice Ages.
Back in the Little Ice Age, we actually had science.
Where did it all go wrong? #1, the Thermometer became widespread, then the Satellites, then the Computer Models, and finally the Anomalymometer was born. It’s like your car when something goes haywire and you can’t put your finger on the cause….and the mechanic at the garage promises to tear up the bill if you will please just go away.
42% of some fraction of the Other 14% are worried about global warming, and the science mechanics want Big Al and Co. to take thier Carbonic Phobia someplace else.
@R. Gates says:
September 17, 2011 at 10:18 pm
“Your comment would imply that you know anything about me, which you don’t, so your comment falls into the meaningless category.”
You have exposed yourself on this site for many months. You are judged by your words. pg
The good news is that we have survived the Little Ice Age, the Modern Warming and cyclic hysteria that comes with each uptick/downtick in the climate ever since.
The bad news is that the hysteria cycles are outswinging the climactic uptick/downticks.