Serially warm reporter Dan Vergano of USA today wrote an article on the “Current Extreme Weather and Climate Change” report, released this week that says it’s all our fault. With a peer review team like this one, what other conclusion could they possibly come to?
Expert Reviewers:
- Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research
- Jerry Meehl, National Center for Atmospheric Research
- Jeff Masters, Weather Underground
- Richard Somerville, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego
May as well just turbo rubber stamp it and be done with it like we saw with Dessler’s recent GRL paper, which is now being revised due to its haste makes waste set of mistakes in it that Dessler is admitting to.
But this quote, is the real weather wackiness:
“There’s really no such thing as natural weather anymore,” says climate scientist Donald Wuebbles of the University of Illinois, who was not involved with the report, but said he largely agreed with its conclusions. “Anything that takes place today in the weather system has been affected by the changes we’ve made to the climate system. That’s just the background situation and it’s good for people to know that,” Wuebbles says. Although scientists cannot immediately tie what percentage of an extreme weather event relies on global warming to make it more severe, he says. “It’s always a factor in today’s world.”
Source here
No natural weather anymore? So weather is “permanently polluted” by “changes we’ve made to the climate system”?
Gee, we’re worse than we thought! /sarc
This sort of thinking isn’t new. Consider history:
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The chief god of the Babylonians was Marduk. Marduk was initially the god of thunderstorms but at some point grew to become the god of the ambiance. 1 of the most crucial gods of the Vedic religion of ancient India was Indra, the god of rain and storms.
Source: http://ican-planet.com/god-of-ra/weather-gods-and-ancient-meteorology/
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Zeus (Roman name: Jupiter)
The most powerful of all, Zeus was god of the sky and the king of Olympus. His temper affected the weather, and he threw thunderbolts when he was unhappy. So it was important for humans to keep him happy.
Source: The Olympian Gods and Goddesses — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0881990.html#ixzz1XT66JKzb
A paper by Emily Oster reports that in medieval times superstition blamed witches for weather disasters and crop failures – “Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that, just as easily as they raise hailstorms, so can they cause lightning and storms at sea; and so no doubt at all remains on these points.”
Source: http://www.ozclimatesense.com/2010/08/witcheswarlocks-and-weather.html
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Wireless Changing Climate
That the far-famed climate of Southern California is undergoing a change that will ultimately cause a complete reversal of form is the belief of climate experts who have been making a study of conditions on the Pacific Coast. These experts declare the change is being caused by jolts of electric currents loose in the atmosphere. – Clarence and Richmond Examiner (Grafton, NSW : 1889 – 1915) Thursday 5 October 1911
Source: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61617803?searchTerm=climate%20change&searchLimits=
(h/t to Steve Goddard)
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That seems like the forerunner of the ridiculous HAARP claims we hear today. The sanity test is power; compare the amount of watts emitted by the most powerful radio station to the power in a single thunderstorm or extratropical cyclone. Sandgrains impacting on the windshield don’t measurably change the path of an automobile either.
Yet we are asked to believe man is influencing severe weather this year in spite of the data:
A few months ago USA Today asked this question:
Can we do anything about vicious bad weather?
Unless we want to start praying to the weather gods again, or give up all our wireless communications, and given there doesn’t seem to be any signal in severe weather or ocean heat content, probably not.
Now to put it in context . . . . . You are here!!!!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth%27s_Location_in_the_Universe_SMALLER_(JPEG).jpg
“Trenberth’s heat is still missing.”
That’s the single most important sentence in the entire piece. As long as that heat remains missing, the CAGW hypothesis is demonstrably inaccurate.
The Indo-Aryan diety was Dyaus-pitar , “Sky Father” the antecedent of both Zeus and Jupiter.
Man has elevated himself to gods now.
Of course, no storm is less severe because of CO2. That would be madness to believe that….
Everyone knows it’s all our fault. We are still deciding how it’s our fault. But the basic fact is settled.
Since we have no natural weather, is it, finally, possible to order something for the weekend?
If I was a poet I would do something about this , but we all know that the TEAM is dwelling in a bubble, history and what the weather is doing outside the window is in Neverneverland.
You’ve left us N Europeans out. Don’t forget Thor (or Tor).
The missing heat is in Area 51. The aliens who brought the Double Helix to Earth and began evolution really prefer Area 51 to all others and have chosen it as the storage site for all the missing heat. Earth never had natural weather; rather, Earth’s weather has always been controlled by the same aliens who created all life on Earth and guided human evolution, which is not natural.
Some people treat these aliens as gods and have created a religion around them, maybe several religions. Some people say that Tom Cruise is a priest of one of these religions. Maybe Trenberth and Masters are high priests too along with Richard Dawkins. They want to teach us how to make penance for our sins and how to achieve atonement through higher taxes and a lower standard of living. But this movement just might be heretical because the aliens are controlling the climate, the weather, and everything. /sarc.
Dr. Master’s headline today…
“The U.S. had its hottest summer in 75 years,”
Which means it’s gotten cooler…..it was hotter 75 years ago
What a simply amazing case of climate amnesia. Why does no one seem to remember anything before the current trend? Isn’t anyone afraid of looking stupid?
Revelation 17:5
King James Version (KJV)
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT…….
The theme song for CAGW begins “Don’t know much about history,” If you assume that Sam was singing to Gaia, it explains alot.
http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/wonderf0.htm
Sounds like they’ve all lost their wuebbles!
….Could I point out that if man has impacted weather now, then he has throughout his existence, just a question of degree. If man’s CO2 now is 3 trillion mega giga metric tons and it makes a difference, then it made a difference when it was 10 pounds 30,000 years ago. It wasn’t measurable then, it’s barely measurable now.
Just a question of degree.
It follows then that, by their logic, our impact today equates to weather not being “normal”, then weather has never been “normal’. It simply could not have been by that standard, unless there was an actual “tipping point”. If there were a tipping point, then it should be quantifiable, and we should see it in the record, either proxy or observed. It would look like a hockey stick.
(pronunciation guide– Elmer Fudd: “That rascally rabbit has ripped off my rubles”)
“There’s really no such thing as natural weather anymore,”
Even if you buy into man affecting climate (I’m sure we do to some degree, as any substantive life on the planet has), does that make the weather unnatural or supernatural? If we’re just following human nature, then what we do and any consequences are not “unnatural”, so I guess that leaves supernatural… Back to the Gods… Or do they believe we are now the Gods???
Anthony Watts quoted
“A paper by Emily Oster reports that in medieval times superstition blamed witches for weather disasters and crop failures – “Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that, just as easily as they raise hailstorms, so can they cause lightning and storms at sea; and so no doubt at all remains on these points.”
Thought you might enjoy this plaque recording the last witches executed in England-the site is about 1 mile from the Met Office in Exeter. ….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Witchplaque.JPG
tonyb
I visited Emily Oster’s paper on the link between witch trials and cold weather and I’ve copied her graph here, inverting the trials axis so that the correlation appears more clearly.
Quite a graph. Thank you Ms Oster for that work.
Re: Witches & crop failures:
Haven’t really done a check on the historical literature, but it seems less than half of the “medieval” witch hunts (actually about 1460-1650; most of them after 1550) were started by bad weather caused by “Satan’s human minions”; the others were caused by sick farm animals, cows no longer giving milk, farmer’s wives getting migraines, etc. Most of the victims were those implicated in the confessions tortured out of the “initial suspects” as members of covens (according to the Malleus Maleficarum, there never was such a thing as a single witch); the witch’s confession being the lynchpin for condemning them to burning at the stake legally, and torture the only way to get a confession. It should be noted that “herb doctors” or “wise women” were often exempted from the escalating rounds of suspects, or protected by local authorities (though they were often accused of being abortionists, “angel makers” – but that was something completely un-supernatural; it carried the death penalty just the same). Oh, and that about 30-40 % of the “witches” were male.
Wuebbles statement and the figure of extreme warm/cold ratio in the US demonstrate his ignorance about climate: more extreme due to global warming!!! LOL This guy should read Leroux and learn!
The most powerful of all, [Gormannkibbenberthsen] was god of the sky and the king of [the myth]. His temper affected the weather, and he threw [tantrums] when he was unhappy. So it was important for [humans] to keep him happy.
Cut and paste elevated to new heights.
Lucy
Unfortunately Ms Osters temperature graph appears to bear little relation to reality. The period between around 1690 to 1740 was very nearly as warm as today.
Curiously it started warming up IMMEDIATELY the last witches in England were hung….One mile from the present day Met office. see my link above) 🙂
tonyb
“what percentage of an extreme weather event relies on global warming to make it
moreless severe”There, I fixed that typo for them. I’m sure they merely mis-quoted him.
To Lucy and Tony,
“Curiously it started warming up IMMEDIATELY the last witches in England were hung”
It’s pirates, not witches. Stop being silly.
Laurie Bowen says:
September 9, 2011 at 8:48 am
Now to put it in context . . . . . You are here!!!!
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Shows how important we are!!