Thank the Gods for Climategate

Guest post submitted by Steve Garcia

(feet2thefire http://feet2thefire.wordpress.com )

It has now been more than 20 months since the CRU emails were outed, by whatever or whomever. Some day we may actually know who did it, but for now we certainly do not. Depending on who it was, we can only speculate now as to what the immediate motives were. Was it an insider who had seen the nastiness and not wanted to let it go on any longer? Was it an insider who had a grudge against someone at CRU? Was the server hacked into, as is claimed publicly by all on The Team and their many AGW brothers in arms?

Though all that will be extremely interesting if and when it happens, the bigger picture will eventually be this: Who won? And how decisive was Climategate, anyway? Or is it too early to tell? At some point people will try to assess that question. Is now a viable time to do that assessing?

I assert that it may not be too early to tell. And I think our side won, big time. After all, the lay of the land is certainly different. Having been caught trying to rig the game and even lying and fudging the data – and do be aware that much of the public does see it that way – The Team and the IPCC are struggling to gain the ascendancy and monopoly they once had. And it truly does not look like they are winning the battle. But once a witness or ‘expert‘ is caught in a lie, can they ever get the people who witness it to believe them again?

See this article at Der Spiegel,  The Climategate Chronicle – How the Science of Global Warming Was Compromised

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It is noteworthy that the first line of text in the article is a caption in a GERMAN magazine that reads:

To what extent is climate change actually occurring?

Before Climategate, that caption would most likely have read

To what extent is climate change occurring?

To the warmers, it wasn’t IF climate change was happening, but how bad it was going to be.  One word – actually – is revealing, about how even German news sources are doubting what 21 months ago would have been traitorous heresy to doubt.

The momentum certainly appears to have shifted.

But has it?

To answer that, we have to go back to the autumn of 2009 and ask what the balance of power was at that time, to establish a baseline to measure from…

The balance of Power in early November 2009

For all intents and purposes, at that time The Team and the IPCC had a monopoly on telling the story of global warming. The Copenhagen Conference was just coming up in a couple of weeks, and the media blitz was about to get started.

Outside of Steve McIntyre’s ClimateAudit.org, WUWT, and a handful of other skeptical sites, little attention was paid to skeptical arguments. Almost no newspaper or news website – certainly no network news organizations – printed or broadcast any skeptical positions, except to denigrate them, or worse, to ridicule them as ostriches, anti-science wackos and warming “deniers” – the last one harkening back to Holocaust deniers, almost certainly intentionally.

Though Steve had poked holes that those in the know could cast doubt on Michael Mann’s Hockey Stick, which had gone over the heads of most of the world.

The warmers had browbeaten Roy Spencer and John Christy at UAH into changing their satellite adjustments (which I thought ended up being too big an adjustment).

At that time, those FOI requests referred to in the emails had been long since submitted. The stonewalling evident in the emails was well entrenched. The skeptics were trying to find enough information to attempt replication of The Team’s work but were having difficulty getting that information. Also, the public was almost entirely in the dark about there being any other possible side of the story, in spite of the work of Christy, Spencer, Richard Linzen, Willie Soon, and others, including many studies on the supposedly non-existent Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age that showed those two events were actually global, as opposed to Mann’s assertion that they were only regional.

Very little – almost none – of the research that argued against the AGW argument was getting out to the public. It is also shown in the emails that many of those studies were having trouble making it into the peer-reviewed literature – and that at least some of that was because The Team was blackballing authors they didn’t like, and sandbagging certain papers when The Team was chosen to be the reviewers.

With the power to control what the public heard or read, there was a definite one-sided tilt to the playing field/battle ground. The consensus was being spread far and wide, almost totally monopolizing what the public heard. Skeptics were marginalized, often ridiculed – and most mendaciously – accused of being in the pockets of the big energy interests (to this day, the AGW supporters assert that this latter is true, in spite of the fact that Anthony, a retired meteorologist, and Steve McIntyre, a retired auditor, are by far the most effective skeptics and have never been shown to be on anyone’s payroll. That those two attend conferences sponsored by or attended by energy industry representatives does not mean any more than that the U.S. and Libya are both in the U.N.)

These ad hoc allegations were parroted in article after article in the news media. Whenever it was necessary to give skeptics any press at all, it was bad press, usually with this: almost as an adjective, typical being something like (paraphrased) “the industry shill Willie Soon.” Almost no entry about a skeptic was complete without such an inflammatory remark by science editors or writers. Yet no such attempt was made to ascertain the source of the funding for AGW proponents – who were paying their way to conferences to Switzerland or resorts in the mountains of Austria, for example. That would have been bad enough, except that Watts and McIntyre weren’t taking money at all. A double standard was in effect, that any money coming from a pro-AGW entity was seen as noble and pure, while funding from industry was evil. Time after time after time, this is what went out in our newspapers and on TV and radio news.

Solid Information and Unambiguous Claims (NOT)

When I first came to ClimateAudit, long before Climategate I saw all the graphs and formulas and technical discussions, and I had two reactions. One was, “How am I ever going to learn about all this and keep up with these people? I’ve never seen a site with so much math.” (That is in spite of being fairly mathematically adept.) The other reaction was, “Gawd! At least there is something here to sink my teeth into.”

Finding any solid technical information about global warming from its supporters was difficult, if not impossible. Every post or article on the pro-AGW sites was filled with claims and summaries, but I didn’t want that. I wanted to go as straight to the source as possible. When I asked on Liberal sites for references, I was always directed to RealClimate, where there was claim after claim, assertion after assertion, paraphrasing after paraphrasing. But I wanted to see what the papers themselves said (not that most of it wouldn’t have been over my head in the beginning). And all the papers that were referenced were behind paywalls, so I couldn’t get into the nitty-gritty like I wanted to.

No one else could, either. Not unless they wanted to pay $30 per paper. So, in essence, their underlying story of CO2 was essentially being hidden from the public. And they knew it. The public was given summaries and assertions and headlines, mostly overstating and exaggerating the case against CO2. And the headlines were atop articles written by a small group of science editors around the country/world who, it turns out, were philosophically in bed with the AGW/IPCC folks. Article after article printed their assertions as fact – and more.

One thing that confused me was that human activities other than CO2 were being ignored. I found out later the reason was that Phil Jones’ co-authored study of UHI turned out to be extremely erroneous).

One thing I saw so often it angered me was that a headline would make an assertion of something as if it was unambiguous, yet when I would read deep into articles for the exact words of the scientists, I almost always saw qualifiers like “we believe,” “most think that,” “up to,” and “it appears that.” Where the scientists themselves were equivocating, the headlines and opening words asserted certainty. Any reader scanning the article would not go deep enough to se the caveats. For allowing this misrepresentation, the scientists should not be let off the hook, because they let those headlines stand without pointing out to the editors their level of uncertainty.

Uncertainty About AGW

It took until Judith Curry’s blog, Climate Etc, in 2010, for the issue of uncertainty to be addressed seriously and publicly by anyone near the AGW center. That was more than 20 years on down the line. Climate science should be, at the least, embarrassed that it did not come from themselves. And sooner. Give Dr. Curry credit for addressing that long overdue issue.

But as I understand it, that blog would never have existed had she not read enough of the Climategate emails and files to begin to question the claims of AGW. Seeing “The Team’s” reaction to her move to a middle ground and give some credence to the arguments of the skeptical community, it is clear that it took some courage for her to do that. Again, give her credit, this time for her integrity.

So, one thing that came out of Climategate was Climate Etc., and the establishment of a serious middle ground. The terrain was shifted that much, at least. What had been accepted as “consensus” had shifted toward “non-settled science.”

What Constitutes a Win?

As a lone Liberal here at WUWT, it has been a lonely 11+ years for me. But I have been treated with as much respect as I need, and have only been ridiculed once – when someone pointed out that I had used too many All-Caps. I took it like a man. I have never apologized to any fellow Liberals, and have lost a girlfriend of five years, but have made small inroads into a few peoples’ minds about AGW. But most of them thought I was addled in the brain. That was before Climategate. While few of those I talked with had read anything of substance about Climategate, with the main stream media’s shift to a small level of doubt, at least some peoples’ minds have opened up to the possibility that humans are not sizably to blame for whatever warming has existed.

My aim was never to prove that AGW didn’t exist, even though I was always in the small group that distrusted the adjustments, and do not believe (till shown with solid, replicatable science) that there ever was warming beyond us coming out of the Little Ice Age. I think it is enough to show that the science is too unsettled.

In order for that to happen, I always believed that something had to happen to throw doubt on the science behind the CO2 claims. Yes, in fact, I DID hope for a Watergate-style Deep Throat to show up. But that hope seemed so far-fetched that I never voiced it out loud. (So any of you that laugh at my 20-20 hindsight, laugh away. I can’t prove it.) Early on after the release of the emails, though, I was out there talking about Deep Throat. Whoever did it, may the gods favor him or her for many a year.

Now, in a court of law, to show reasonable doubt is enough for an acquittal. An acquittal, for the defense, IS a win.

Is there enough reasonable doubt?

With the level of attention given to AGW these days, with the yawns that greet claims against CO2 anymore, with governments abandoning efforts at controlling CO2 emissions, with even Germans (the most green country in Europe, if not the world) asking “To what extent is climate change actually occurring?” it seems perfectly appropriate to wonder if we have gotten an acquittal for CO2, simply by continuing to cast doubt and keeping at it like bulldogs (thank you, Steve and Anthony, in particular).

  • If we got an acquittal for CO2, it is a win.  There always was a reasonable doubt.  The jury just had to wake up to it.  Anthony and Steve M presented the case long enough and true enough so that could happen.
  • If serious scientists are talking about the uncertainties in climate science, where they were not before, that is a win.
  • If the world now does not accept the claims without some skepticism, it is a win.
  • If previously stilled voices in the climate community now speak clearly and without being intimidated, it is a win.
  • If more and more skeptical or neutral research papers are seeing the light of day, it is a win.
  • If the news media has stopped calling us “deniers”, it is at least a partial win.
  • If they sometimes don’t mention the ad hoc assertions of “industry shill,” it is a partial win. It means some of the respect is coming this direction.
  • If the monopoly on climate change pronouncements is broken (and it is), then it is a win.

Perhaps at some point soon climate science will go back to being the sleepy ivory tower it always used to be. Hansen came along with his claims that we would be warming up (after the 1970s, ANY warming should have been seen as getting back to normal – and I assert that Hansen knew that – but he couldn’t pass up the opportunity to scream, The Sky is Falling!”). Before Mann and his legendary fundraising started an avalanche of money that the other climate scientists jumped on.

All in all, although we don’t want to jinx it, it might be just about the right time to wave the victory flag.  We are certainly in a far different world vis-a-vis global warming than 21 months ago.  The climatologists are, to a very large extent, being ignored.  Yes, there is an IPCC coming up, and perhaps we should wait until that is over.  But I will predict that no matter what hoohah comes out of it, it will not have 50% of the energy of the previous IPCCs, because governments just aren’t listening with baited breath anymore.  If there is any place where the mojo counted, it was with governments.  But it ain’t there any more.

Our victory lap is just around the corner.  Yes, some people on the street will believe that the climate is changing, but – and this is the important part – then they think, “So what?  We have other, more important things to worry about.”

Chicken Little is dead.  Sprinkle the seasoning on and put it on the barbie.

Thank the Gods for Climategate.

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Dr Rebel
July 21, 2011 11:39 pm

I can’t wait for the movie… any script writers out there?
Who would play the key roles?
Jones…. Mann?….suggestions?

Richard111
July 21, 2011 11:41 pm

I am hoping we will see some response from the people of the UK this winter. There is an across the board rise for all domestic energy services exceeding 10%. (much higher in some cases) Coupled with the increase in fuel costs which are driving up transport costs which in turn is reflecting on rising food prices. The strong possibility of another cold winter should rouse the public out of their state of apathy and then, maybe, the media will pay attention to excellent articles published almost daily on the internet by the likes of Steve Garcia and many, many others.
Then, and only then, might the questioning of the powers that be begin.

Martin Brumby
July 21, 2011 11:46 pm

Unfortunately we aren’t at the end of this nonsense. We’re not at the beginning of the end. Possibly, after Climategate, we are at the end of the beginning.
Here in the UK, all those inside the political bubble are more-or-less passionate True Believers. European Parliament? Same thing. European nation states? A few doubts in Czech Republic, Poland but basically the same thing. The Governments in Australia and USA the same, although both do have SOME opposition. And so it goes on right across the developed world. And the UN of course.
The Third World have been told that all their problems are down to the developed world, who owe them a “Carbon Debt”. That one will blossom and bear fruit for sure. Another excuse for terrorism when it turns out the cheque ISN’T in the post.
All the Scientific Institutions have been hijacked by True Believers.
Almost all the media (and especially in the UK) are almost monolithically warmist.
Big Finance are on board with what is seen as an opportunity to perpetrate another sub prime scam but on a much bigger scale.
The pseudo-scientific cAGW scam has spawned a host of voracious sub-scams, like BigWind which are skimming Billions from taxpayers and electricity users.
Sure, many more ordinary folks are becoming sceptical, or pehaps that should be cynical. A normal mortal can only stand so many scare stories. But they won’t do anything about it (and what can they do, with only alarmists to vote for?) until they shiver in the dark.
But victory? That’s a very, very long way off. This baby is way too big to fail.

Old Nanook
July 21, 2011 11:49 pm

A fine post, Mr. Garcia. While I generally just read WUWT, Climate Audit, Icecap and Pielke, Sr., I do read them most every day, as I have for the last four years or so.
No summary and account of the change in circumstances over the past 20 months would be complete without an acknowledgement of the enormous contribution of Steve McIntyre. I know this is implicit in your post, but IMO it should be explicit. No person on the planet has done more to save mankind from the excesses, malfeasance and dishonesty of the Team and their power-seeking, liberty-crushing fellow-travelers. Climategate confirmed the bad conduct and evil intent. Steve McIntyre, sometimes ALONE had the courage to face down these forces. Climategate is the event; McIntyre is the Man.

John R. Walker
July 21, 2011 11:49 pm

Don’t think there’s any doubt that ClimateGate was the tipping point – before then the AGW fascists had it all their own way. The world owes whoever did it a debt of gratitude. But there’s still a long long way to go before sanity is restored!

Robert A
July 21, 2011 11:53 pm

Win or something less, Climategate was certainly a giant step forward.
In all likelihood, the hero responsible is monitoring sites like WUWT and may well be among us. I would be if I were he.
And to that person should you be lurking: you are a hero although an unknown one you are sure to remain. And the least we can do is pause and give thanks from time to time, and perhaps celebrate with a day in your honor or with something like: “The Tomb of the Unknown Hacker.”

Michael
July 22, 2011 12:00 am

I was actually thinking of the title of the thread as I was driving home from work this evening.
I was thanking the creator for Climategate as I was listening to the George Noory show.
I’m not taking the Blame for the Climate Changing or the Weather. The blame is all on them.
I’m only to blame and take responsibility for all the crap I pulled in my 50 years of life. Not the climate changing or the weather. Got IT!

Brian
July 22, 2011 12:13 am

Climategate has already been discussed:
http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.skepticalscience.com/search.php?Search=climategate&x=18&y=7
Can we cut the climategate stuff already?

Peter Plail
July 22, 2011 12:20 am

Sadly, the BBC has taken the retrograde view by announcing that it will not automatically give sceptics airtime to balance warmist views (not that we saw much of that anyway):
http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/climate-change-sceptics-should-get-less-bbc-coverage-and-be-challenged-more-vigorously-says-report-on-science-output/
(I was glad to find a reference that did not involve using the BBC website, as it goes against the grain driving traffic to it).
According to the above link:
“Another corporation source said: ‘When there is a clear consensus, we don’t need to put the other side.
‘But this does not mean we are not going to have people who don’t agree with climate change, because balance is important.’”
So whilst the world seems to be moving to a more questioning stance, the BBC is starting to shut down debate, based on the report of geneticist Steve Jones, because of the existence of a consensus on climate change . A flavour of Jones’ other views is given in Wkipedia:
Human evolution
Jones’ view that in humans “Natural selection has to some extent been repealed” dates back at least to 1991 and has been the focus of a number of newspaper reports and radio interviews. His views are largely based on his claim that reduced juvenile mortality, decreasing age of fathers, and greater interconnectedness of populations in Western societies reduce evolution. Both the data supporting these assertions and his views of the way these factors influence evolution in populations have been extensively criticised by other academics.
Creationism
Jones has stated that creationism is “anti-science” and criticised creationists such as Ken Ham. Jones suggested in a BBC Radio Ulster interview in 2006 that Creationists should be disallowed from being medical doctors because “all of its (Creationism’s) claims fly in the face of the whole of science” and he further claimed that no serious biologist can believe in biblical creation. For Jones, ‘evolution is the grammar of biology’. Jones elaborated on his full position on creationism in a public lecture entitled ‘Why creationism is wrong and evolution is right’.
Private education
In an interview on the BBC Radio 5 show ‘5 Live Breakfast’ hosted by Nicky Campbell and Shelagh Fogarty on 13 January 2009, Jones described private schools as a “cancer on the education system”. Jones cites private schools as one of the reasons that Britain remains as socially stratified as it is. Among the advantages in private schools compared to state schools, Jones listed smaller classroom sizes, highly-trained teachers, better facilities, and coaching through university interviews.
Religion
Jones, along with 54 other public figures, signed an open letter published on 15 September 2010 in The Guardian, stating their opposition to Pope Benedict XVI’s state visit to the UK.”
I find it ironic that his views on Creationism would have been dismissed (or worse) only a couple of centuries earlier because of the prevailing consensus.

oglidewell
July 22, 2011 12:31 am

Given that the UK state broadcaster has pretty much declared that it isn’t biased enough against climate sceptics, I think it’s perhaps a little premature to be declaring victory.

Jay Curtis
July 22, 2011 12:38 am

Unfortunately, the game is about keeping people in the western world scared to death of something. (Keep ’em afraid, and they can be controlled.) The real players who help to bring that about are essentially faceless and nameless, but they can buy whatever reality they wish people to accept if they just throw enough money at it, or they manipulate some government stooge to throw the money for them.
When the fear of imminent environmental disaster has played out its usefulness, they will turn to something else. You’ll know the whole thing is really over when Hollywood begins making movies that poke fun at AGW.
When I was a kid, the big scare was “THE BOMB.” Remember “duck and cover” and “fallout shelters?” It began to die with the film “Dr. Strangelove.” The film was subtitled, “How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb.”
I wonder what the title of the first, great climate comedy will be? It shouldn’t be to hard to come up with one.

July 22, 2011 12:41 am

Steve
Yes, thank the Gods for Climategate. But it was a strategic gain, not a knockout blow.
The warmists have not surrendered. Here’s a publication endorsed by the former Irish president Mary Robinson, that claims to demonstrate that Climate Change increases the risks of forced marriage and sexual violence to young girls! For crying out loud!
http://www.plan-uk.org/resources/documents/35316

Smoking Frog
July 22, 2011 12:50 am

But I will predict that no matter what hoohah comes out of it, it will not have 50% of the energy of the previous IPCCs, because governments just aren’t listening with baited breath anymore.
That should be “bated breath” (partially held breath). “Baited breath” would mean that the breath was somehow baited to lure someone as bait lures a fish.

Chris
July 22, 2011 1:43 am

I think the scientific claims, on their own, would have done little more than result in an occasional news paragraph; after all we have had some pretty absurd scientific claims over the years which have come to nothing.
What boosted the ‘industry’ was when the environmental groups like Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, WWF and others saw an opportunity to promote their anti- capitalist, anti -globalization agendas. In turn, business saw an opportunity to exploit the concerns and make money. Finally, governments, in particular left leaning governments saw an opportunity to control and tax its subjects.
Yes, there is evidence, that there is a waning of governmental interest but, in Britain at least, billions are still being spent on windmills which to an investor are almost a license to print money, so generous are the subsidies. So, until governments stand up and publicly announce it was all a mistake, the battle is not won.

July 22, 2011 1:57 am

FYI; References to US-centric “Liberal” notions makes no sense in the rest of the world. We’ve never been quite able to understand how you’re able to divide absolutely everything there is in the world up into two opposite camps … 😉
I also believe the weather is just as much the reason for sceptic voices in popular media as any Climategate fallout, but that might be my Northern Europe-centrism talking.

DirkH
July 22, 2011 2:01 am

Oakden Wolf says:
July 21, 2011 at 9:53 pm
“Yes, thank God for Climategate because it means that so many of us don’t have to be concerned about something like this:
“A remarkable world record was set at Khassab (airport), Oman on June 27th when the minimum temperature for the day failed to fall below 107.1°F (41.7°C). This is the highest minimum temperature ever recorded in the world to date.””
You did notice the word “airport” in your quote, right?

KnR
July 22, 2011 2:02 am

Although who is interesting , perhaps more interesting is why. For within that why may be far more information on the workings and of CR and in the workings of CRU is just how ‘settled ‘ the science really was and is . I would take a bet that in reality the situation always was that there was far to many unknowns and uncertainty to ever make the claims that where made and retain scientific validity . But the ambitions of some and the political desires of others lead to the notion scientific validity being abandon for more earthly wants.

July 22, 2011 2:07 am

Excellent post. However, I won’t be dancing any victory happy dance until the willful destruction of the UK’s energy security and economy criminally insane government policies like this have been stopped dead in their tracks.

July 22, 2011 2:32 am

In Toronto (and North America in general), we’ve just had one of the worst heat waves in decades, with many record highs being shattered. Last night the CTV news report was dedicated to the phenomenon, virtually pushing away every other news story.
Not once — not ONCE — did anyone mention “global warming,” “climate change,” or “climate disruption.”

delhi
July 22, 2011 3:04 am

Vaclav Klaus is speaking here in Australia. One of his points is that he does not believe in the innocence of the alarmists. The parallels with his experience under communism are too strong. In other words, alarmists are alarmists for the same reasons that communists are/were communists; a great stick to beat others with, a shortcut to money and power, a way to instil fear and obtain social status that their meagre talents would otherwise not entitle them to.
A sobering thought but one that is borne out by the sheer obduracy and irrationality of the CAGW crowd. None of their predictions ever come true? Don’t worry they will, and in the meantime keep sending money. People ask good and pointed questions? Smear them, insult them, harass them, do absolutely anything rather than address issues and science. Someone who is genuinely frightened for the future of the earth, as I was, is keen to examine anything that might buy time or constitute a reason to be less fearful.
So these people will not stop until they are stopped, by political means. I agree with Lubos Motl and James Delingpole about that. The alarmists have nothing else going for them and not too deep down they know it.

Eyal Porat
July 22, 2011 3:07 am

I am sorry, but I can not see this issue in terms of win or lose.
We all lose:
Science loses credibility.
Major health and environmental problems lose because we neglect them in the name of the battle on GW.
Poor countries lose because they may be forced to abandon their hope for progress.
And we all lose a lot of money spent on a non issue, while the world is being bent on solving a non problem.
Too much money was already spent and too much scientific harm has already been done for this to be any kind of win.
The only thing left for us now is to try and salvage as much as we can.

Roger Knights
July 22, 2011 3:08 am

Other big wins for skepticism were:
1. The refusal of China to go along at Copenhagen. No carbon reduction elsewhere will mean anything if they aren’t involved, so this “break in the ranks” is very significant.
2. The failure of the Senate to pass Obama’s cap and trade bill. More generally, the swing of the GOP toward skepticism. With the exception of Canada’s conservatives, this is the only other major Western (or even global?) party to do so. The refusal of the US to “get with the program” disrupted the bandwagon effect prior to Copenhagen.
3. The rise of the Internet, which has broken the MSM’s stranglehold and allowed skeptical commenters to disrupt the consensus.
4. The visible underperformance of renewable energy installations in Spain and elsewhere, like the UK. This will become more apparent as the years go by. If there’s no practical renewable alternative to fossil fuels, Greenism loses most of its appeal.
5. Himalaya-gate and associated revelations of IPCC / Pachy sloppiness + bias + arrogance.
6. (Developing): The revelation that the IPCC unjustifiably created a fudge factor (using Bayesian statistics) that doubles the global climate sensitivity. The whole case for catastrophic warmism rests on this high sensitivity, so this exposure could turn out to be a mortal blow. See: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/05/the-ipcc-and-high-biased-climate-sensitivity/
7. (Developing): The global financial crisis, which will put a crimp in the West’s spendthrift psychology and capabilities. The crisis of the euro has the potential to unwind the EU and with it, its we-know-best bureaucracy and legal powers.
8. (Developing): Recent backpedaling or conflicting messages from science news about such things as a coming hiatus in warming, the uncertain effects of coal (China’s coal cools the planet), etc. Support from CERN for Svenmark’s theories would help.
9. (Developing): Failure of the planet to warm to the extent predicted.
10. (Developing): Poor performance of carbon-trading vehicles and investments in renewables.

Alex the skeptic
July 22, 2011 3:26 am

Would the fact that people vote out a political party because it introduces carbon taxes, be considered as a major battle won, if not the war itself? Just thinking.
Great article b.t.w. I found it contains a lot of what went through my head since climategate.

Richard S Courtney
July 22, 2011 3:26 am

Steve Garcia:
I think your judgement is premature. There is a long, long way to go before the AGW-scare is over. Copenhagen was the ‘tipping point’ that fenestrated the scare, not Climategate. And much damage will result before the AGW-scare fades to become a forgotten memory like the Acid Rain scare.
Climategate enabled a change to public perception and nothing else. It was important because it revealed to anyone who cared to look what many of us already knew.
The real ‘tipping point’ in the AGW-scare was a few months after Climategate and was at Copenhagen. The Big Players such as China and India refused to join in the economic flagellation being promoted by the West. And those Big Players would have done that whether or not Climategate had occurred.
The large developing countries were willing to go along with the Kyoto Protocol because it imposed restrictions on developed countries (i.e. Annex A countries) but not them (i.e. Annex B countries) so the Kyoto Protocol was a direct economic benefit to them. But the Copenhagen Treaty would have included them in emission constraints (i.e. economic restrictions) and they simply refused to agree to that. (Their refusal tactic was to say they would not constrain their emissions until their per capita emissions reached those of the average in the West).
Climategate enabled a change to public perception and nothing else. And several posters here have pointed that out.
Gnomish points out that US policy on AGW has not changed and “Susan Rice, US Ambassador to the UN” acted on it today.
Several posts (i.e. Richard111, Martin Brumby, oglidewell, etc.) point out that the UK government and politicians are united in their making UK energy and environment policies subservient to the AGW-scare.
John Johnston shows Irish politicians are the same.
Indeed, Martin Brumby points out that the scare is affecting government policies in many countries and several continents.
And the media – especially the BBC and the ABC – remain extremely partisan and pro the AGW-scare.
Attacks on ‘climate realists’ (which I and so many others have suffered) continue as KenB reports in this thread at July 21, 2011 at 9:08 pm.
For decades there have been people campaining for realism and scientific integrity to replace the AGW-scare. We have had our successes and failures. The Climategate whistleblower is one who has provided a success although he/she has chosen not to be identified.
Most of these campaigners have ‘shown their faces’ and have had some success. Climategate revealed the rejoicing of the ‘Team’ at the tragic death of John Daly. And Tim Ball is now silenced by a legal case that attempts to bankrupt him. This proves that critics of the ‘Team’ have had successes: the ‘Team’ would not have made these responces if their critics had been inefectual so could be ignored.
Climategate was one step along a long road. It was important to public perception but, importantly, governments are still travelling along that road. The road changed direction at Copenhagen so it will not reach its originally intended destination. But politicians keep marching along that road and they are trampling on the public as they march. It is clear that they will keep marching until they recognise that their desired destination is no longer attainable.
Richard

Mike Simons
July 22, 2011 3:27 am

Good article – but the news hasn’t spread far enough. Here in the UK, home of Climategate, Government policy is still to cut carbon emissions by 80% by 2050, and recently announced measures will sharply rack up energy costs for both consumers and industry, to pay for windmills and nuclear power stations.
It’s not just the politicians. Save-the-Planet lobbying by Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, etc. is to be expected, but mainstream charities like Oxfam and Christian Aid have been actively lobbying the EU politicians for deeper cuts in carbon emissions, despite the harm (including death from cold) that extortionate heating costs will do to vulnerable elderly people, and despite the hunger and starvation that turning food crops into biofuel causes through higher food prices worldwide. Funny stance for charitable organisations. Sorry, not funny at all, more like tragic.
A (long) list of organisations who still support the hysteria can be found at the bottom of the page at http://www.stopclimatechaos.org/ .

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